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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#19130682 - 11/13/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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MarkostheGnostic said: I am retardant to Christian retardedness.
You are equally retardant to intelligent discourse.
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: all this beauty]
#19130718 - 11/13/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd imagine most Jewish people have never heard of Zionism or at least remain ignorant to what it's true agenda is, it's too easy to say 'its the Jews' and have someone to blame or lynch
It's also good to understand history & where we are headed if these power mad people are left running the show, unless we want to blindly walk into what happened in Russia
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: Chronic7]
#19130867 - 11/13/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Chronic said: I'd imagine most Jewish people have never heard of Zionism or at least remain ignorant to what it's true agenda is...
You may be right -- when it comes to non-observant Jews.
Orthodox Jews, as I understand them, are for the most part ardent Zionists. There are exceptions, of course, but I think that's generally the case.
Observant Jews in the other denominations (Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist) are probably all over the place on Zionism. The farther to the left your politics lean, the more likely you are to see Zionism as a land-grab "justified" through the grabber's biblical beliefs.
The average non-observant cultural Jew on the street, I imagine, doesn't think much about any of this, one way or the other.
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: Chronic7]
#19131402 - 11/13/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Chronic said: I'm not taking about Jews but zionism
Kill em all and let God sort em out.
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: Icelander]
#19131611 - 11/13/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I thought Rastafarians were also Zionists.
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: Chronic7]
#19131641 - 11/13/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Chronic said: To my knowledge it's not the Christians that are controlling Washington & constantly warmongering it's the Israeli/Jewish influence, obviously some play their part & claim to be Christians
If you look at Jewish history Zionism is a religion of warmongering, it's what they do, warmongering, pedophilia, blood sacrifices... they rarely get their hands dirty in wars tho & send the goyim slaves, the USA or any other gentile nations they have colonized, to die in their war on the arabs & ultimately on all humanity
The corruption of politics, media (just look at Hollyweird), the press, banking, it's all the zionists
Have you been reading The Protocols of the Elders of Zion? I hope you realize that you sound like an anti-Semitic bigot. "warmongering, pedophilia, blood sacrifices" Really? That is medieval rhetoric, and you don't know that any of such crap is real because (1) it's hate propaganda, and (2) such information is so transparently false that anyone with any sense could see that immediately. Cabals of perversity do not allow their dirty little secrets to trickle down to some stoner on The Shroomery. You seem to be confusing culturally Jewish business prowess with religion-political agendas. No doubt there are fundamentalist Jews, called Zionists, but there are also Orthodox Jews who are anti-Zionist and advocate assimilation. A Jewish state is actually forbidden in the Torah. Zionists hate this guy.
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#19131855 - 11/13/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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MarkostheGnostic said: Have you been reading The Protocols of the Elders of Zion? I hope you realize that you sound like an anti-Semitic bigot. "warmongering, pedophilia, blood sacrifices" Really? That is medieval rhetoric, and you don't know that any of such crap is real because (1) it's hate propaganda, and (2) such information is so transparently false that anyone with any sense could see that immediately.
We disagree on many things, Markos, so it's nice to be able to acknowledge my agreement with you on this point.
I felt, with regard to that post of his, as I felt with the "Muslims eating pussy" posts.
Sad, that people would use this forum -- "Spirituality and Mysticism" -- to express that level of bigotry and ignorance.
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: all this beauty]
#19131888 - 11/13/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's horribly sad.
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: eve69]
#19132859 - 11/13/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's so fucking horribly sad that it saddens me to the saddest degree.  
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: Icelander]
#19133203 - 11/13/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Horribly, filling over and all over the place
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: all this beauty]
#19133845 - 11/13/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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MarkostheGnostic said: Have you been reading The Protocols of the Elders of Zion? I hope you realize that you sound like an anti-Semitic bigot. "warmongering, pedophilia, blood sacrifices" Really? That is medieval rhetoric, and you don't know that any of such crap is real because (1) it's hate propaganda, and (2) such information is so transparently false that anyone with any sense could see that immediately.
We disagree on many things, Markos, so it's nice to be able to acknowledge my agreement with you on this point.
I felt, with regard to that post of his, as I felt with the "Muslims eating pussy" posts.
Sad, that people would use this forum -- "Spirituality and Mysticism" -- to express that level of bigotry and ignorance.
Thanks. I thought a wake-up call was in order, while retaining civility, and avoiding a ban. I am less and less tolerant of open bigotry. It tells the world what kind of unconsciousness you walk around with. Keep you hatred to yourself. I have my own prejudices, but not hatred, and I don't parrot utter bullshit that some people have kept half-alive in the creepy crypts of their unconscious. I used to know a Jewish woman from NY who told me that when she was in college, she met a girl from South Carolina who kept looking up at her hair. Apparently, Phyllis was the first Jew this southern bell had ever met in the flesh. Being a very bright person, Phyllis, who was aware of a whole lot of fucktard legend, asked the South Carolinian, "Are you looking for my horns?," to which the slightly surprised southerner nodded yes vigorously. Phyllis then told her, "They only come out after dark!" R.I.P. Phyllis. BTW, if you ever watch the film 'Midnight Cowboy,' there is a scene of Ratso Rizzo fantasizing about Miami Beach. There is a wheel chair race, and a dark-haired woman in a bathing suit with large green bows who is pushing a wheelchair. That was Phyllis.
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: Chronic7]
#19134855 - 11/14/13 05:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's all true, everything about everybody at some time and in some place.
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: Icelander]
#19134867 - 11/14/13 05:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm Jewish, so can we limit the talk to Christians who without conspiracy theory are warmongering Hawks? If I wanted people to take the easy road of common place bigotry I would have said something about Jews. They are such easy targets. Plus, since few people have ever known one the theory stays entirely in the conspiracy department. I know since Christians are so commonplace people think they are all average and too bone dumb to plot things like takeover of the Middle East, but they have been plotting this since the Crusades, so history supports the argument.
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: eve69]
#19134985 - 11/14/13 07:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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As a christian myself I can attest that I have been planing a world takeover for many years now. However I have only been able to recruit myself so far as my agenda is quite radical.
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: Chronic7]
#19135264 - 11/14/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Out of respect for people who identify as Jewish, and to acknowledge the suffering of the Jewish people, we need to be extra extra careful about lumping all Jews together with this or that characterization. The Holocaust provides a graphic reminder of what happens when the "lumping" occurs and good people remain silent.
The settlements are clearly wrong and destructive. All world leaders of good intent have denounced them. The Obama Administration has denounced them, rightly so.
The settlements are not a "Jewish" thing. They're a land-grab masquerading under the pretense of biblical "right."
Lots and lots of Jews recognize that, and denounce Israel's policies.
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: all this beauty]
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You don't know 'lots and lots of Jews.' Also Jews don't need you to speak up for them. That smug self righteousness is just inverse prejudice.
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: eve69]
#19135388 - 11/14/13 09:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think if there is to be one rule; it is to not judge a crowd, for ... serioussly?
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Re: How did Republican Hawks get the idea they were Christians? [Re: Chronic7]
#19135453 - 11/14/13 09:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If any of you think I've been misled & these Zionists don't have an evil plan for total world domination then please feel free to inform me otherwise...
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The Chronic said: I think Markos is aswell if I remember correctly, and my own father had some ashkenazi blood in him I think, which would make me part 'jewish' (part eastern European/khazarian) fair enough though, I apologize for the massive derailment of your thread
You know, it has been suggested that Hitler was 1/6 Jewish. This week a White Supremacist had his genetic profile read on a Black TV show, and he came out with 14% Sub-Saharan African genetics. There is only one race, and it is human. I know a Chinese-American Jew, born in China. I have met African-American Jews. Judaism is a religion that may have bifurcated culturally in Sephardic Spanish cultures and Ashkenazie Eastern-European groups, but there are no genetic Jews. The genetics obviously derive from modifications of our Neolithic ancestors. And whereas my parents were of Romanian and probably German origin, and both were culturally Jewish, I have never had a strong Jewish identity, but technically, as my atheistic mom used to say, "You were born a Jew and you'll die a Jew." Strange coming from someone who did not want to hear anything about Light, days before she died of massive heart failure. Jewish was strictly adjectival for her, pertaining to culture.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/11/craig-cobb-white-supremacist-black_n_4256360.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009
its also a fact that the tens of millions of christians that died in Russia (the biggest mass murder in human history we never hear about) were mostly at the hands of 'jewish' Zionists
I don't know where you got this. I knew Jewish parents of a childhood friend (his dad was a physician) who went to Russia in the late 60s and reported back to us, among other things, the status of Jews behind the Iron Curtain. There were pogroms against the Jewish shtetls of Czarist Russia for hundreds of years before the USSR. Jews has no power in Russia then, and certainly not in Stalinist USSR. You've been propagandized. There are corrupt people of every kind, but you have been fed and have not rejected a particularly virulent form of anti-Jewish rhetoric. At worst, ethnocentrism is the problem. It's culturally narcissistic. I can imagine that committed Hasidic Jews would like nothing better than to have everyone dress and act like they do, but in reality, there is a strong exclusivist element that would not consider the world's peoples to be members of their cult. I don't think Orthodox Jews want Scandinavians or Africans to go about looking like 19th century Poles, in black frock coats or female peasant-wear. They might see that as some kind of mockery even if for some reason these peoples were committed. Israel is not politically motivated to world conquest. If anything, the Muslim extremists want every people on earth to bow to Shiriah law. Rome is not crusading for Catholic conquest any more. You're looking through some real distorted views IMO.
I'm no Nazi hunter, but I smell fear when I see hate. It got back to me that a long-time acquaintance commented on my wife when we were dating, saying "I didn't think that a Black could graduate from Cornell." This guy graduated from the University of Chicago but became a humble middle school history teacher, while some of those Blacks that my wife went to Cornell with became high-powered attorneys, financiers, etc. I never would've hung out with that guy if I knew what a hater he was. He managed to get away with having sex with a 15 year old student, eventually getting caught by his wife and young kids, and later married the girl. So his total personality is loathsome to me. Gossiping is bad enough in life, but perpetuating stereotypes and dangerous lies is utterly reprehensible. Even one exception nullifies a stereotype as being true.
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