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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: volcomstoner]
#19124740 - 11/12/13 02:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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erm me gawd i have to say it again lol
they can all go chew some freshly cut baby schmucks for all I care like the jewish vampires they are
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: Konyap]
#19124742 - 11/12/13 03:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: NotTheDevil]
#19124746 - 11/12/13 03:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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rackem said: his and his baby mammas decision man.
none your business unless he brings it up with you.
Its the baby's, not his mothers
The baby is gonna choose to be cut or not?
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: Sled]
#19124752 - 11/12/13 03:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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"Make a noise if you disagree"
"He didn't do anything! Ok get the pruner!"
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: Sled] 2
#19124758 - 11/12/13 03:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Illyabo said: erm me gawd i have to say it again lol
they can all go chew some freshly cut baby schmucks for all I care like the jewish vampires they are
No silly, they need to sell those so people can have various creams and lotions.Quote:
Sled said:
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rackem said: his and his baby mammas decision man.
none your business unless he brings it up with you.
Its the baby's, not his mothers
The baby is gonna choose to be cut or not?
Its a human body part, removal is not important for the health of the child, it is not causing any problems, babies cannot consent to surgery, Therefore foreskin should be left until the child can be considered old enough to make his own decisions.
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: NotTheDevil]
#19124762 - 11/12/13 03:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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hey your the one regenerating your foreskin right?
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: st1llnox] 2
#19124770 - 11/12/13 03:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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people still do this?.. it's like snipping a pit bulls ears so they look cooler/
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: volcomstoner]
#19124771 - 11/12/13 03:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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volcomstoner said: hey your the one regenerating your foreskin right?
Regeneration is not currently possible, I am restoring which expands remaining skin to cover the glans allowing dekertinization and restoring the rolling motion. I would call it a faux skin
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: zZZz]
#19124772 - 11/12/13 03:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Or removing a cat's tail
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: st1llnox]
#19124778 - 11/12/13 03:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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st1llnox said: Man... awkward and weird subject.
It'd be one thing if it were like when I was born with over 80% of babies getting snipped... but...
It's a minority now. And it's not as though the disadvantaged get anything cool to compensate with. My friend has a baby boy due any day now.
So, here's the question: do you guys think I should or shouldn't ask him to NOT circumcise his baby boy?
Again, it'd be something totally different if that were the "norm" right now/the boy would be in the majority for being cut. That said, that's not the case and I'm wondering if I should chime in. 
AAaaaawwwkward.....
If you are his godson then you could have a say and state your opinion.
However, if they are doing it for religious reasons do not even ask. You might offend them by even asking.
Otherwise, it's his kid. You might be able to state your opinion if you word it nicely, like, "Pleeeease don't circumcise your kid, I have so much fear about the whole procedure, adn just feel like it would really be robbing him of bla bla bla..."
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: Crystal G]
#19124781 - 11/12/13 03:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said:
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st1llnox said: Man... awkward and weird subject.
It'd be one thing if it were like when I was born with over 80% of babies getting snipped... but...
It's a minority now. And it's not as though the disadvantaged get anything cool to compensate with. My friend has a baby boy due any day now.
So, here's the question: do you guys think I should or shouldn't ask him to NOT circumcise his baby boy?
Again, it'd be something totally different if that were the "norm" right now/the boy would be in the majority for being cut. That said, that's not the case and I'm wondering if I should chime in. 
AAaaaawwwkward.....
If you are his godson then you could have a say and state your opinion.
However, if they are doing it for religious reasons do not even ask. You might offend them by even asking.
Otherwise, it's his kid. You might be able to state your opinion if you word it nicely, like, "Pleeeease don't circumcise your kid, I have so much fear about the whole procedure, adn just feel like it would really be robbing him of bla bla bla..."
Would you say the same thing if this was in another country and it was female genital mutilation? (in the more minor versions which don't deal with deep tissues the clitoris etc. as in prepuce removal only)
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: NotTheDevil]
#19124792 - 11/12/13 03:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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NotTheDevil said: If you are his godson then you could have a say and state your opinion.
However, if they are doing it for religious reasons do not even ask. You might offend them by even asking.
Otherwise, it's his kid. You might be able to state your opinion if you word it nicely, like, "Pleeeease don't circumcise your kid, I have so much fear about the whole procedure, adn just feel like it would really be robbing him of bla bla bla..."
Would you say the same thing if this was in another country and it was female genital mutilation? (in the more minor versions which don't deal with deep tissues the clitoris etc.)
Look, I personally don't like circumcision. I view it as genital mutilation and wouldn't do it on my son. However, I am adhering based on social norms and what mind offend people. I know if they are Jewish or Muslim and you object to their circumcision, they will view it as you bashing their religion. That is like telling a traditional Hindu to eat beef or telling a priest to have sex with a prostitute.
Also, the difference between female genital mutilation practiced in other countries and male genital mutilation, is that it's conducted on 14-year old TEENAGE girls, who are often taken against will and are screaming and obviously tortured excruciatingly throughout the process. Women of this age obviously experience severe physical and mental trauma from this experience. Not quite the same as doing it on 1-5 day old baby who will never remember the experience.
Furthermore, female genital mutilation removes the clitoris entirely and sew the vagina shut. It is not like male circumcision which only removes the foreskin. The female equivalent to that would be to only remove the clitoral hood. Which, if you study anatomy, is not nearly as painful as taking your whole clitoris off. The nerve endings are in your clitoris, which is why when women get their clitoral hood pierced they say it was not any more painful than getting a belly button ring. Getting your actual clit pierced hurts like shit.
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: Crystal G]
#19124799 - 11/12/13 03:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crystal G said:
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NotTheDevil said: If you are his godson then you could have a say and state your opinion.
However, if they are doing it for religious reasons do not even ask. You might offend them by even asking.
Otherwise, it's his kid. You might be able to state your opinion if you word it nicely, like, "Pleeeease don't circumcise your kid, I have so much fear about the whole procedure, adn just feel like it would really be robbing him of bla bla bla..."
Would you say the same thing if this was in another country and it was female genital mutilation? (in the more minor versions which don't deal with deep tissues the clitoris etc.)
Look, I personally don't like circumcision. I view it as genital mutilation and wouldn't do it on my son. However, I am adhering based on social norms and what mind offend people. I know if they are Jewish or Muslim and you object to their circumcision, they will view it as you bashing their religion. That is like telling a traditional Hindu to eat beef or telling a priest to have sex with a prostitute.
Also, the difference between female genital mutilation practiced in other countries and male genital mutilation, is that it's conducted on 14-year old TEENAGE girls, who are often taken against will and are screaming and obviously tortured excruciatingly throughout the process. Women of this age obviously experience severe physical and mental trauma from this experience. Not quite the same as doing it on a baby who will never remember the experience.
Furthermore, female genital mutilation removes the clitoris entirely and sew the vagina shut. It is not like male circumcision which only removes the foreskin. The female equivalent to that would be to only remove the clitoral hood. Which, if you study anatomy, is not nearly as painful as taking your whole clitoris off. The nerve endings are in your clitoris, which is why when women get their clitoral hood pierced they say it was not any more painful than getting a belly button ring.
I meant when they take baby girls, like they do sometimes when they are several weeks old. Also in part of my comment I specified that it was in fgm's that remove only outer tissue, specifically the clitoral prepuce. And on a final point, many religions require fgm, but it is illegal, who cares if you offend someone when in doing so you offer the power of choice
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: NotTheDevil]
#19124810 - 11/12/13 03:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread is weird.
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: NotTheDevil]
#19124812 - 11/12/13 03:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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NotTheDevil said: I meant when they take baby girls, like they do sometimes when they are several weeks old. Also in part of my comment I specified that it was in fgm's that remove only outer tissue, specifically the clitoral prepuce. And on a final point, many religions require fgm, but it is illegal, who cares if you offend someone when in doing so you offer the power of choice
Well if it's his friend and he was invited to the wedding or the baby shower, he might care. This is not some random person over a message board, he stated that this was his friend.
If it's prepuce only and not prepuce and partial clitoral removal on an infant, I don't view it as nearly as bad as the other types of female circumcision (removal of the clitoris and labia) that are more commonly practiced in like Ethiopia. Not to mention, the surgical techniques they use are barbaric (1 razor to cut 30 girls, and sometimes even FINGERNAILS are used in the process of circumcision).
I know that Islam actually allows prepuce only circumcisions on females, although the Q'oran specifies that the entire clitoris be removed. The thing is, you referred to "female genital mutilation" which refers mostly to extreme types of female circumcision. When professionals are referring to removal of the clitoral hood only they will mostly refer to it as female circumcision.
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: st1llnox]
#19124830 - 11/12/13 03:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd say it's not your child, so keep your opinion to yourself.
I'm actually curious though, is there any actual evidence circumsion is decreasing in the U.S.? I'd have thought it was still (by far) the norm.
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: st1llnox] 2
#19124835 - 11/12/13 04:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You virtually never see uncircumcised guys in porn. Why? Because it's ugly. Sorry for those of you who aren't, but that's the facts.
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: nooneman]
#19124843 - 11/12/13 04:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's because uncircumcised guys last longer.
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: st1llnox] 1
#19124844 - 11/12/13 04:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I didn't read all the replies but...
Who the fuck are you to think you should have any say in wether or not a baby that's not yours get circumsized or not?
You have no say in that and you shouldn't even bring it up, it's not your place.
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Re: Should I ask my friend to NOT circumcise his baby? [Re: badchad]
#19124854 - 11/12/13 04:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I thought the same thing. Is it not common in the world? Or the usa. I have a 15 month old son and we got him snipped like the day after he was born or something. I didn't even think about it. And if you don't get snipped, don't you get dick cheese if you don't bath for a day or some shit? I also think there's higher probability of getting std's... gettin snipped is the way to go. Looks better too. And the baby doesn't even remeber it. That'd hurt like hell if you waited till you were 18! And why the hell are you gettin in your friends business like that. Are you gunna tell him what to name him too?
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