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Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination
#19124611 - 11/12/13 02:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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One week ago, I ate 2.6g of cubensis. This was my 3rd time taking shrooms.
I weigh 180 pounds.
My friends and I eat our portions and about an hour has passed and we decide to go on an adventure to the park.
Let it be known that it was very misty and completely dark. The clouds were out, so the stars could not be seen and it was very blurry.
We are walking towards the park and (here is the unexplainable part) we are looking at about 4 houses, 10 beautiful autumn trees, and a school and we can also see the EXACT reflection of the 4 houses, 10 trees, and the school IN THE FUCKING SKY!
Basically whatever we see in front of us is reflecting in the sky, like we are looking at water.
I'm wondering if anyone has had this experience or know anyone who has? If so, can anyone explain it to me? Thanks.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: 4Skins]
#19124628 - 11/12/13 02:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Uh yeah I am no expert, but it might have been the hallucinogenic mushrooms that you ate . . . yep thats it!
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: 4Skins]
#19124640 - 11/12/13 02:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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there is nothing explain. you saw the reflection of the houses, trees and school in the sky. you were trippin man, but it doesn't make a meaningless experience. take it as is. 
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: zZZz]
#19125643 - 11/12/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hahahahah well I know it was because I was "tripping," but how is it possible?? It was just so amazing
Scientifically, how was it possible? I guess that's what I really meant.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: 4Skins]
#19125660 - 11/12/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's tripping, it defies science.
People can share hallicinations, it's happened to me a couple times.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: Deemstar]
#19125711 - 11/12/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, I wouldn't say it "defies" science, because it technically is science, but it certainly feels like it does. Very magical experiences.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: 4Skins]
#19126355 - 11/12/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tripping doesn't defy science . It does, however, defy the models we currently use, begging us to study phenomena further. I believe the "reflection" phenomena may be due to some impression on your visual cortex, the part of your brain that receives info directly from your optical nerves. Now, if you remember in highschool science class (its okay if you don't ) there are a few things which can happen when you have a convex or concave lens, and where the focal point is in regards to whether the "image" seen is flipped 180 degrees. Its like looking at your reflection in the back of a spoon, then looking at it from the same distance in the face of the spoon. The image flips. Now, I think something similar is happening in your brain with a "flipped" image being sent to your visual cortex, but obviously the houses you see in front of you are not physically flipped. Does this help at all?
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: 4Skins]
#19126842 - 11/12/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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4Skins said: Hahahahah well I know it was because I was "tripping," but how is it possible?? It was just so amazing
Scientifically, how was it possible? I guess that's what I really meant.
you are going to have a difficult time with psychedelics if this is going to be your attitude. it's called a hallucinogen for a reason.. you were hallucinating, it doesn't get anymore scientific than that. like i said though just because it was a hallucination doesn't make any less meaningful.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: zZZz]
#19126990 - 11/12/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think hallucinations are different person to person. But at the same time, some people have the same hallucinations as others. I've seen things that I couldn't explain to my friends, and I'm sure the same for them.
You ate mushrooms, don't expect boundaries on your hallucinations. Almost anything is possible.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: zZZz]
#19127025 - 11/12/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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zZZz said:
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4Skins said: Hahahahah well I know it was because I was "tripping," but how is it possible?? It was just so amazing
Scientifically, how was it possible? I guess that's what I really meant.
you are going to have a difficult time with psychedelics if this is going to be your attitude. it's called a hallucinogen for a reason.. you were hallucinating, it doesn't get anymore scientific than that. like i said though just because it was a hallucination doesn't make any less meaningful.
I think you should study neurochemistry more.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: zZZz]
#19127034 - 11/12/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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What attitude?
I'm just a newbie and I'm curious.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: zZZz]
#19127046 - 11/12/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's sounds really intense. There are scientific explanations beyond "you were just tripping, man" though guys. Just as a "healthy" sober brain can take visual signals received from the eyes and translate them into a normal picture for you to see inside your head, a tripping brain can take those same exact signals and do some funky shit to them before creating a picture for you to see. How? Why? I have no idea, I wish I knew more about how the brain deals with information honestly.
Also, you have the right attitude in my opinion. Stay curious!
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: Enslyn]
#19127060 - 11/12/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enslyn said: That's sounds really intense. There are scientific explanations beyond "you were just tripping, man" though guys. Just as a "healthy" sober brain can take visual signals received from the eyes and translate them into a normal picture for you to see inside your head, a tripping brain can take those same exact signals and do some funky shit to them before creating a picture for you to see. How? Why? I have no idea, I wish I knew more about how the brain deals with information honestly.
Also, you have the right attitude in my opinion. Stay curious!
How? Why? Neurotransmitters. That's how and why.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: Enslyn]
#19127069 - 11/12/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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of course there is science, how the psilocybin affects ur brain and what neurotransmitters and stuff. op wanted to know how that was possible, mushrooms man, that's how. if you want to know EXACTLY HOW, well u sure not going to find it here.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: Hashfinger]
#19127072 - 11/12/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: Hashfinger]
#19127099 - 11/12/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hashfinger said: Read this.
Lovely thanks, I'll read this later.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: Enslyn]
#19127146 - 11/12/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enslyn said:
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Hashfinger said: Read this.
Lovely thanks, I'll read this later.
No! You read NAOW!
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: Hashfinger]
#19127364 - 11/12/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you all very much. This is all helpful.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: 4Skins]
#19127381 - 11/12/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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4Skins said: Thank you all very much. This is all helpful.
Don't let anyone tell you "you're crazy, they're just drugs you're just hallucinating." There is always an answer if you're willing to find it. Most people just can't keep up, that's all!
Edit: It's all illusion. Reality is one big shared hallucination.
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Edited by Hashfinger (11/12/13 04:47 PM)
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: Hashfinger]
#19127541 - 11/12/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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umm.. no one was telling him he's crazy. we dont judge like that around here bro
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: zZZz]
#19127605 - 11/12/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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zZZz said: umm.. no one was telling him he's crazy. we dont judge like that around here bro
No certainly not anyone here, but in general you know... I love that we can all talk like we're bat shit crazy and no one gives a fuck! But honestly, it can be hard to be taken seriously even by folks on this site sometimes. -_-
Edit: We all know how intensely personal some of these trips and experiences can be, and when someone just says, "oh yeah congrats you're just trippin'!" it can be disheartening or frustrating.
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Edited by Hashfinger (11/12/13 05:27 PM)
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: Hashfinger]
#19127689 - 11/12/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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u forgot to add the part where i said it wasn't a meaningless experience. no one can tell him exactly what happened, i could have said "well the mushrooms made u into god and u saw the world how it really is.." , that is up to the op to wonder and come to his own conclusion. all we can do is remind him that psychedelics can sometimes be unexplainable.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: zZZz]
#19127731 - 11/12/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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zZZz said: u forgot to add the part where i said it wasn't a meaningless experience. no one can tell him exactly what happened, i could have said "well the mushrooms made u into god and u saw the world how it really is.." , that is up to the op to wonder and come to his own conclusion. all we can do is remind him that psychedelics can sometimes be unexplainable.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: Hashfinger]
#19127891 - 11/12/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah. Everyone's crazy.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: Hashfinger]
#19127940 - 11/12/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hashfinger said:
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zZZz said: u forgot to add the part where i said it wasn't a meaningless experience. no one can tell him exactly what happened, i could have said "well the mushrooms made u into god and u saw the world how it really is.." , that is up to the op to wonder and come to his own conclusion. all we can do is remind him that psychedelics can sometimes be unexplainable.

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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: zZZz]
#19128071 - 11/12/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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you know the answer, just take more next time and try to think about how it happened
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: SomeGuyX]
#19129241 - 11/12/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SomeGuyX said: Yeah. Everyone's crazy.
You might say we're all... mad!

Hehe. But really, what we consider "reality" is all just a strange and magnificent illusion consisting of temporary third-dimensional matter. The way we perceive things as human beings can vary person to person; it can also be completely distorted by a number of things, including psychedelics. I, and many members of the shroomery might agree, love having my perception shifted, both mentally and optically. The hallucinations I see on psychedelics often remind me of metaphorical significance in my experience. I often remember significant visual distortions, patterns, shapes, colors, and hallucinations from my trips, and they remind me of how beautiful and complex this universe is.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: MindDrips]
#19129513 - 11/13/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd say psychedelics are the most "personalized" a drug can get, considering each trip reflects the individuals thought patterns and actions of their every day life. I love noticing the details, seeing things from new perspectives and analyzing/pondering life while my surroundings are cradling me like a baby. Who wouldn't?
Idk man. I'm off for the night, everyone stay... trippy.
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: Enslyn]
#19129534 - 11/13/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It was amazingly intense
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Re: Unexplainable (possibly) visual hallucination [Re: 4Skins]
#19129551 - 11/13/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes. I've tripped 3 times on shrooms and once on L and I am starting to notice details about life, people, and basically everything I'm involved in that I never really paid attention to. I've found myself driving off in the middle of the night to a completely dark place just to stare at the stars (completely sober, btw) and expressing feelings a lot more than I did before. Life almost seems "easier" to control at the moment.
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