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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19250709 - 12/09/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'd say try it again, from Fahts results it's almost a no brainer xD


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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: sharpshroomer98]
    #19250817 - 12/09/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thought my results were pretty decent:shrug:


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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19250822 - 12/09/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Almost 6 oz first flush by the time it was all said and done


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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19250827 - 12/09/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You're a complete pro now, you have your own tek in your sig

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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 19 tubs (not cased this time) [Re: sharpshroomer98]
    #19250850 - 12/09/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

wow Frank, now that's what I call bulk...:smile:impressive man... always good stuff there...


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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: sharpshroomer98] * 1
    #19251057 - 12/09/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You're a complete pro now, you have your own tek in your sig

:sunspots:

:lol:



the only reason i posted this was because i've seen so many people posting that they were gonna do LC's to start, and how difficult agar was and it was so daunting.  i really want everyone to know how easy agar really is and that it is the best course of action to expand your culture stock and preserve good genetics.  i was so scared to try agar i avoided it for almost 2 years!  i lost all my cultures to an LC that went bad about the 4th time i used it (always using sterile techniques), and actually took a small break from mycology to re evaluate my methods and where and how i could have gone wrong.  Along with doing agar i stopped doing the bucket tek (which may work for some and it did for me but proper pasteurization is the way to go), i also started using my GB properly and made many adjustments to my technique.  posting the agar thread was my hopes to help others take that step from mediocrity into true cultivation.


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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19251102 - 12/09/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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the only reason i posted this was because i've seen so many people posting that they were gonna do LC's to start, and how difficult agar was and it was so daunting.  i really want everyone to know how easy agar really is and that it is the best course of action to expand your culture stock and preserve good genetics.  i was so scared to try agar i avoided it for almost 2 years!  i lost all my cultures to an LC that went bad about the 4th time i used it (always using sterile techniques), and actually took a small break from mycology to re evaluate my methods and where and how i could have gone wrong.  Along with doing agar i stopped doing the bucket tek (which may work for some and it did for me but proper pasteurization is the way to go), i also started using my GB properly and made many adjustments to my technique.  posting the agar thread was my hopes to help others take that step from mediocrity into true cultivation.




AMEN BROTHER AMEN.

ill bet anyone dimes to dollars Ill mix a batch of agar and transfer cultures and parafilm em up before you even can get your LC inoculated!


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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: twistedty]
    #19251115 - 12/09/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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the only reason i posted this was because i've seen so many people posting that they were gonna do LC's to start, and how difficult agar was and it was so daunting.  i really want everyone to know how easy agar really is and that it is the best course of action to expand your culture stock and preserve good genetics.  i was so scared to try agar i avoided it for almost 2 years!  i lost all my cultures to an LC that went bad about the 4th time i used it (always using sterile techniques), and actually took a small break from mycology to re evaluate my methods and where and how i could have gone wrong.  Along with doing agar i stopped doing the bucket tek (which may work for some and it did for me but proper pasteurization is the way to go), i also started using my GB properly and made many adjustments to my technique.  posting the agar thread was my hopes to help others take that step from mediocrity into true cultivation.




AMEN BROTHER AMEN.

ill bet anyone dimes to dollars Ill mix a batch of agar and transfer cultures and parafilm em up before you even can get your LC inoculated!



:awesomenod:
as well as rest assured you have a healthy viable culture to work from without test jars :super:


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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19251129 - 12/09/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

or magnetic stirrers and syringes etc.

ive used LC and used a clean culture for it, i was like this is dumb as i was droppin the wedge in.  id much rather make a master grain jar :smile:

sorry for off topic frank.


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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: twistedty]
    #19251132 - 12/09/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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ive used LC and used a clean culture for it, i was like this is dumb as i was droppin the wedge in.



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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: PussyFart]
    #19251224 - 12/09/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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ive used LC and used a clean culture for it, i was like this is dumb as i was droppin the wedge in.



:lmafo:



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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19251253 - 12/09/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

back on topic i just cased one tub today, and another is about ready.  my v-tek tub is looking pretty good too i cased them as well.  and i have a couple spawn jars i'm gonna case and fruit the old MMGG style just for shits and giggles and some non PE jars are about to G2G that will be cased when fruited.  been mostly concentrating on my agar so that's about all i have going right now


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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19253322 - 12/09/13 11:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

First off, thanks for all the support guys and girls. I really love that I can help everyone out so much. Hopefully you and yours are eating well :wink:

Since you guys are so great, who wants a free print? Read on!

Updates!

So here is a little story about 2 of these 19 tubs.

I did in fact case the first couple. However, I prepped the casing layer while very drunk and it came out a bit too wet. I used it anyways, because I was very hungover the next day :lol:

These took forever to breach the top of the casing layer while colonizing. They began pinning in the few spots where mycelium poked through at 7 days post casing.

I did not patch them. I simply fruited them, and here they are tonight:



Here's where it gets interesting:

The first tub pictured, I harvested the mature mushrooms tonight. The left cluster in the picture got taken, as did the larger caps on the right. The smaller pins on the right remain.

While it doesn't look like a lot from above, check out the mushrooms on my dehydrator:



They are monsters :eek:

If you want a free print, send me a private message :pm: sometime in the next 18 hours. Tell me how much you think this flush will weigh in dry grams. Only one number please. Open to everyone. Closest gets a cube print of my choice. Maybe the closest two will get prints if I'm feeling generous still :hehehe:

I will post the weight here tomorrow night and contact the winner for a free print.

Posting your guess in this thread will mean you are disqualified. Please do not post any guesses on this thread, I don't want this turning into a contest thread.

Feel free to post about anything else :wink:

And as a bonus, here is a second flush PE harvest from tonight:



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just patched my first PE tub, wish me luck <3 you frank

couldnt find jiffy mix (didnt look that hard) so i made my own 50/50 mix ;/, gg Frank




:goodluck:

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This was my 50/50 casing on PE thanks to FH




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Lol and why the hell do I keep seeing posts to not case?? I got some PE In works. I don't even think I'm gonna do half cased half not, I'm casing em all




That's how every single one of my cased PE tubs looks. I usually pull 10+ ounces off each first flush, and an additional 4 on the second. It's nuts.

What I'm trying to say is, case em all :derfase:

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back on topic i just cased one tub today, and another is about ready.  my v-tek tub is looking pretty good too i cased them as well.  and i have a couple spawn jars i'm gonna case and fruit the old MMGG style just for shits and giggles and some non PE jars are about to G2G that will be cased when fruited.  been mostly concentrating on my agar so that's about all i have going right now




How is that on topic for this thread? :lmafo:

But seriously I hope it all turns out well for you.


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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19253812 - 12/10/13 03:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lol no more posts after he laid down the challenge due to everyone messaging then forgetting to come post.

And yes Frank, I shall case em all! Just might try late/regular casing :blazed:


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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: sharpshroomer98]
    #19253880 - 12/10/13 04:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So you guys think casing ALL your cubes is significantly beneficial or are you guys talking specifically about PE? If I hear frank and a few others vouch for it. Then I might have to go pick up some peat moss before my next tub is ready lol.
Its gonna be a long time before I can run an isolated experiment to see for myself. Seeing how I can't even find agar locally. :shrug:
Sorry for my medicated ramblings frank. One last thing thank you frank for all your teks and wisdom given to the OMC. Keep up the amazing work. I'd say GL but your skill says its not needed in the least.


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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: magickspore]
    #19253897 - 12/10/13 04:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I often hear people saying verm is a better casing than 50/50

it would be great for holding moisture though.. why not?

considering 50/50 or verm for next casing, just not sure which
coir will retain plenty of moisture, but may dry out in the top / fail to provide the microclimate there for pin formation?

the only thing verm wont do is it wont adjust pH in the sub

so it might not be as good as 50/50

anyone tried both?:-)


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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: lessismore]
    #19254213 - 12/10/13 07:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nice work frank:rockon:!!!

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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: magickspore]
    #19255885 - 12/10/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Here is 2/3 of that big cluster in the second pic from last night, harvested it about ten minutes ago:



:eek:

As for the verm casing mio, I don't know how well it would work vs 50/50+. Never tried it myself. I would imagine verm alone would dry out faster.

I will say that while the 50/50+ casing is pH adjusted, but it does not adjust the pH of the substrate itself.

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So you guys think casing ALL your cubes is significantly beneficial or are you guys talking specifically about PE?




Thanks for the kind words my man :wink:

From what I have seen, I think casing can be beneficial for all cubes. PE specifically is great to case, it is an effective remedy for most first flush blobs.

A casing layer seems to me to be a good way to "coerce" a nice, even flush from your substrate. I've not run enough side-by-side trials to say definitively though.

So I'll get back to you on "classic cubes" in a couple weeks. My next tubs at the end of the month will be cased.

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Nice work frank:rockon:!!!

Cyn




Thanks Cyn!  Good to see you around!


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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19255966 - 12/10/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

love those clusters.  as always looking good franklin


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Re: Frank's 2014 project: 20 tubs (not PE) cased with 50/50+ [Re: twistedty]
    #19256135 - 12/10/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

BEAUTIFUL cluster Frank!! :thumbup:


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