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karp


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best uses of your dehydrator
#19124239 - 11/12/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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hi guys, i was lucky enough to pick up an excaliber dehydrator today for $10. i was wondering if anyone has messed around with the temperature setting when drying their shrooms, and has found that certain temps work better than others to when trying to keep the potency at its peak.
if you could post the temp and time that you have found works the best, as this is my first time using a dehydrator and i want to make sure that i don't screw anything up.
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: karp]
#19124276 - 11/12/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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karp said: i was wondering if anyone has found that certain temps work better than others to when trying to keep the potency at its peak.
Full blast!
Potency loss will not happen until FAR past 300F.
Exposure to oxygen however, does affect potency.
Use the highest temp it goes up to, and get them cracker dry ASAP.
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: karp]
#19124281 - 11/12/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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From what I've read dehydrators do not get hot enough to degrade the potency, so crank it up!
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: karp]
#19124282 - 11/12/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure you can go up to 160 or whatever. Some people say every ten degrees you lose ten percent potency, I say bs. Iusually do mine at 115 ore 125 for a few hours after fan drying fir about a day. Still potent.
I think the key is doing it Quickly cuz psilocybin oxidizes in open air. If your planning on long term storage get vacuum bags, silica packets and o2 absorbers. If Just storing fur a short time they'll be fine in ziplock if you put them in cracker dry
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19124430 - 11/12/13 01:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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MaJiK_420 said: Iusually do mine at 115 ore 125 for a few hours after fan drying fir about a day.
Can you explain your rationale for fan drying first? Just seems completely nonsensical to me when you can put them straight in the dehydrator
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Skinty]
#19124457 - 11/12/13 01:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Skinty said:
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MaJiK_420 said: Iusually do mine at 115 ore 125 for a few hours after fan drying fir about a day.
Can you explain your rationale for fan drying first? Just seems completely nonsensical to me when you can put them straight in the dehydrator 
I'm not sure if you're looking for an argument but I'm sure you know there is no rationale to fan drying before putting them in a dehydrator that has a fan.
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19124519 - 11/12/13 01:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Skinty said:
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MaJiK_420 said: Iusually do mine at 115 ore 125 for a few hours after fan drying fir about a day.
Can you explain your rationale for fan drying first? Just seems completely nonsensical to me when you can put them straight in the dehydrator 
I'm not sure if you're looking for an argument but I'm sure you know there is no rationale to fan drying before putting them in a dehydrator that has a fan.
I am not looking for an argument I am just interested in why a lot of people on this board choose to "fan dry" outside of a dehydrator that has a fan before putting in the dehydrator. I figure if people do something it is due to some rationale that they believe in 
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Skinty]
#19124768 - 11/12/13 03:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Up up and away with the moisture!
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Skinty]
#19126798 - 11/12/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Skinty said:
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MaJiK_420 said: Iusually do mine at 115 ore 125 for a few hours after fan drying fir about a day.
Can you explain your rationale for fan drying first? Just seems completely nonsensical to me when you can put them straight in the dehydrator 
I think it is actually just a habit from when I had more mush than I could keep up with, my dehydrator would be full so I would start the process of drying for others that were ready before the dehydrator was finished.
Everyone always wants to argue lol. Some people have real reasons for certain methods, others might be more arbitrary like this situation with me fan drying first, doesn't really matter how you dry em, as long as you dry them lol. It never hurts to ask.
So if your small scale it shouldn't matter, just dehydrate em. But if your backed up a secondary fan could help.
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19130315 - 11/13/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I always air-dry before dehydrating. Partially because I'm always harvesting gradually, I don't want to be constantly running the dehydrator with just a tray or two of fruits on them. I wait until it's worth running it. The other reason is to minimalize their hot moving air exposure. By the time mine go in the dehydrator it takes only 1-2 hours for them to be totally cracker-dry, so there's also the plus of reduced energy. You read people say that heat doesn't reduce potency, that air does, but it's important to remember that rate of oxidation depends on how active (hot) the particles involved are. Oxidation will occur more quickly in higher temperatures, especially where there's constantly fresh hot air being blown around. IMO dehydrators can have some effect on potency.
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Violet]
#19130406 - 11/13/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i dont use them, i air dry.
best use, sell it to a noob.
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anne halonium said: i dont use them, i air dry.
best use, sell it to a noob.
This post was about 25 minutes behind schedule
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Skinty]
#19130883 - 11/13/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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im starting to like you skinty
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what's your airdry procedure anne?
I'm guessing it's not a box fan.
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Skinty]
#19130918 - 11/13/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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anne halonium said: i dont use them, i air dry.
best use, sell it to a noob.
Tell those noobs to airdry massive amounts of shrooms which otherwise would just rot.
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anne halonium said: im starting to like you skinty
Great. Thanks Anne. In one post you engineer the ruin of my meticulously crafted budding reputation
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Skinty]
#19131038 - 11/13/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Skinty said: Great. Thanks Anne. In one post you engineer the ruin of my meticulously crafted budding reputation 
Just put her on ignore, man. So many people here can't even see her posts, so you don't have to worry about it ruining your reputation
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Skinty]
#19131044 - 11/13/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hate you now Skinty!
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19131053 - 11/13/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Skinty said: Great. Thanks Anne. In one post you engineer the ruin of my meticulously crafted budding reputation 
Just put her on ignore, man. So many people here can't even see her posts, so you don't have to worry about it ruining your reputation 
we can't all ignore her, someones gotta be around to call her out
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: cronicr]
#19131063 - 11/13/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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ok skinty, i hate ya, now your cool again
now im in love with cronic , storm and mush! ( tough love, i want em to learn how to grow)
Edited by anne halonium (11/13/13 12:35 PM)
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Dammit
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Stromrider]
#19131099 - 11/13/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You know Anne if you could grow like us you'd have to have a dehydrator. When you have piles upon piles of boomers it's the only way
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anne halonium said: ok skinty, i hate ya, now your cool again
now im in love with cronic , storm and mush! ( tough love, i want em to learn how to grow)
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: cronicr]
#19131116 - 11/13/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh cronicr nooo!
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Stromrider]
#19131135 - 11/13/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: You know Anne if you could grow like us you'd have to have a dehydrator. When you have piles upon piles of boomers it's the only way 
id bury a food dehydrator. we actually load em into pillow cases and use the tumble dryer.
your right, if i grew like you guys , i could use a dehydrator with ease.
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anne halonium said:
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Stromrider said: You know Anne if you could grow like us you'd have to have a dehydrator. When you have piles upon piles of boomers it's the only way 
id bury a food dehydrator. we actually load em into pillow cases and use the tumble dryer.
your right, if i grew like you guys , i could use a dehydrator with ease.
Dammit Anne you weren't supposed to turn that around on me like that
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Stromrider]
#19131206 - 11/13/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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you guys get me all wrong, im just trying to get you guys up to scale.
we all win, when were all neck deep in the grow.
i actually like alot of you guys. if i hated you, id let ya repeat the same limited teks, over and over.
dehydrators , have limits. if someones grow will fit in one, it says alot.
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The best use of my dehydrator has definitely been to dehydrate mangos.
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Stromrider]
#19131499 - 11/13/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: I hate you now Skinty! 
  
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anne halonium said: ok skinty, i hate ya, now your cool again
now im in love with cronic , storm and mush! ( tough love, i want em to learn how to grow)
Maybe we just need to spend some time apart for a while 
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id bury a food dehydrator. we actually load em into pillow cases and use the tumble dryer.
^^ if you can look beyond the pale facade this is the high quality of post that you will be rewarded with
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Skinty]
#19131674 - 11/13/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It would seem to me that if I put boomers in a pillow case and threw them in a tumble dryer I would end up pulling some really broken up and beaten up mushrooms at the end of the cycle
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Stromrider]
#19131686 - 11/13/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: It would seem to me that if I put boomers in a pillow case and threw them in a tumble dryer I would end up pulling some really broken up and beaten up mushrooms at the end of the cycle
repost this if ur a strong, beautiful mushroom who don't need no dehydrators
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19131694 - 11/13/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Double negative there mush. Tisk Tisk
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Stromrider]
#19134435 - 11/14/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: It would seem to me that if I put boomers in a pillow case and threw them in a tumble dryer I would end up pulling some really broken up and beaten up mushrooms at the end of the cycle
I assume Anne gets her maid to glue them back together again afterward
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Skinty]
#19134485 - 11/14/13 02:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Skinty said:
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Stromrider said: It would seem to me that if I put boomers in a pillow case and threw them in a tumble dryer I would end up pulling some really broken up and beaten up mushrooms at the end of the cycle
I assume Anne gets her maid to glue them back together again afterward 
That's exactly what she does
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: Stromrider]
#19134514 - 11/14/13 02:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like to ride my dehydrator like a sit-n-spin after it's been running for a good 4 hours.....
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Re: best uses of your dehydrator [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19134883 - 11/14/13 06:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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MaJiK_420 said:
Can you explain your rationale for fan drying first? Just seems completely nonsensical to me when you can put them straight in the dehydrator 
I think it is actually just a habit from when I had more mush than I could keep up with, my dehydrator would be full so I would start the process of drying for others that were ready before the dehydrator was finished.
Everyone always wants to argue lol. Some people have real reasons for certain methods, others might be more arbitrary like this situation with me fan drying first, doesn't really matter how you dry em, as long as you dry them lol. It never hurts to ask.
So if your small scale it shouldn't matter, just dehydrate em. But if your backed up a secondary fan could help.

you can dry a pile this way
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19112229
Edited by twistedty (11/14/13 06:14 AM)
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