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FrankHorrigan
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19126435 - 11/12/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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MaJiK_420 said: Pics this morning.



Yeah, that's the PE phenotype alright, or close enough  It actually makes sense that you see those now while the rest of the tub is on its second flush, since PE genetics are very slow fruiters 99% of the time.
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I think they some say PE originated from the Amazonian. This is not a fact though.
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So if I take clone sample to agar, would I be likely to get some more penis? Or would I probably need to isolate over time?
Funny that I get a better pe harvest from creepers than I did my first try with actual pe. i just want to keep it going if possible.
I tried looking up PE origins, and couldn't find anything solid. Everyone says mckenna developed it but that's the end. Also that mckenna supposedly worked with amazonian, so it would make sense if he had a batch like I just had and isolated it over time?
Here's another question... If I am taking clone samples, should I sample multiple fruits or only one? I took 8 samples from 1, but there's some that will be ready tomorrow I could whip up another batch of agar
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19127916 - 11/12/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey Frank nice Mono is that a test tub or is that how your making your Monos now?
I would give my left dick to have some of the harvests you've had Not the right one though He's my Buddy;)
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: Gymspawn]
#19127932 - 11/12/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol. ..I think you missed that he had me quoted? Frank hasn't posted any pics here lol
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19127969 - 11/12/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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oops well I would give my left dick to have some of your harvests as well you want it??? we'll make a trade He's a bit wore out anyways
Edited by Gymspawn (11/12/13 06:30 PM)
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: Gymspawn]
#19128027 - 11/12/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey and what about the monotub design Majik?
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: Gymspawn]
#19128066 - 11/12/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just an old tub. Was experimenting, just a mono with shotgun holes instead of poly holes. I do my tubs regular mono now, but I found that these still work about as well as my regular monos. they dry out a little faster just cuz they don't have the poly barrier but I open and mist a few times a day and they do fine.
I like to think they get a little increase in fae while the poly tubs get a little increase in humidity retention, they perform equally though it seems, I've gotten wall to wall harvests both versions.
Edited by MaJiK_420 (11/12/13 06:55 PM)
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19128549 - 11/12/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No one really knows PE's origins. All the stories, from the Vice magazine article to anything else, has just been hearsay.
Penis envy is different in terms of looks but it is a phenotype that is always possible to see in any variety of cubensis. It's just very uncommon so most people choose to start with PE spores.
Take the clone and see what happens. They're very pretty
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Great thanks for the phenotype lesson Frank I never knew.
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: Gymspawn]
#19128709 - 11/12/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wanna know what the spores from those predominantly produce....
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: PussyFart]
#19128730 - 11/12/13 09:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah so thats where the confusion comes in, is that pe is a phenotype, not a"strain." Or are stains phenotypes as well? What differentiates a strain and a phenotype? Ha smokin a bowl Damn.
If I were to attempt getting spores... Would I swab? Never done that before but I'd be down to try.
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19128741 - 11/12/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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A phenotype is a broad definition for the general presentation of the fruit/fungus.
A strain in a single set of isolated genetics.
So many strains could present themselves as a single phenotype but only one phenotype will be present in a single strain.
"Variety" is the appropriate term for the name of the cubensis spores, such as Treasure Coast or B+.
Why do spores of certain varities tend towards certain characteristics? I don't really know. Domestication plays a part, that is another area I am not familiar with.
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Can't find a solid spore swab tek, but I keep seeing use a sterile swab... Does it really need to be sterile if it's just going to agar? And I saw one place to soak the swab in water then wipe the gills... is the water necessary?
And thank you Frank, your an encyclopedia ha. good explanation, cleared it up for me
Edited by MaJiK_420 (11/13/13 12:39 AM)
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Re: creeper tub turned PE? [Re: MaJiK_420]
#19129702 - 11/13/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Throw some q-tips in a jar, add a lid you would use for grains.
PC it for 30 minutes.
Sterile swabs 
Open the jar in your SAB and take the swabs out using good sterile technique.
Then swab your fruits and move the spores to agar.
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You are The Man Frank. Thanks fir the tips and insights
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