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vaping vs smoking
#19123320 - 11/11/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anyone else here quit smoking and startd vaping
About a month ago my buddy gave me a cheap vape and i fucking love it i have completly quit smoking cigs i feel, breath,smell, and food tatse better since then i have upgraded to one alot better vape And whats your favorite flavor? And do u think it is really better for you
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I quit smoking cigarettes about 3-4 months ago and have been on a vape ever since. Of course it's healthier... you aren't inhaling tar/carbon monoxide and a mixture of 900+ chemicals, 25+ of which are known carcinogens. (If you smoked most commercial brands) I haven't found a favorite flavor yet, there's too many. I'm still experimenting.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Shroomism]
#19123348 - 11/11/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: I quit smoking cigarettes about 3-4 months ago and have been on a vape ever since. Of course it's healthier... you aren't inhaling tar/carbon monoxide and a mixture of 900+ chemicals, 25+ of which are known carcinogens. I haven't found a favorite flavor yet, there's too many. I'm still experimenting.

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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Shroomism]
#19123356 - 11/11/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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my ex got really big on vaping and actually bought me some juice that was 0mg so i could puff on the ecig since i dont smoke tobacco nicotine will make me sick.
it was neat but i couldnt get into it
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Shroomism]
#19123376 - 11/11/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: I quit smoking cigarettes about 3-4 months ago and have been on a vape ever since. Of course it's healthier... you aren't inhaling tar/carbon monoxide and a mixture of 900+ chemicals, 25+ of which are known carcinogens. (If you smoked most commercial brands) I haven't found a favorite flavor yet, there's too many. I'm still experimenting.
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yeah e cigs are the shit
I didn't even like smoking, I just smoked because I was addicted. I actually enjoy vaping and get to puff on it just about anywhere... no more fiending for a cig when I can't smoke one.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Shroomism]
#19123454 - 11/11/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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What kind of clearomizers do you guys use? I've got a Kanger Evod and the atomizers turn all black after a few days even though I keep it full.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
#19123468 - 11/11/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rev. Morton said: What kind of clearomizers do you guys use? I've got a Kanger Evod and the atomizers turn all black after a few days even though I keep it full.
you're using them at too high of a voltage (or you are using to low of a resistance wick if your voltage isn't adjustable). With a 2.5 ohm clearomizer I can't go over 3.4 volts without burning wicks.
I use cartomizers because you can run them at higher voltages without burning them.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
#19123482 - 11/11/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That sounds like your coil burning out. When the coil burns out it turns your juice dark and it will taste like crap. Although it should last a LOT longer than a couple days. I usually have to change coils every 3 weeks or so.
I have a Kanger Mini-Protank 2 and ego-c upgrade 1100mah battery. I'm happy enough with it.. I don't need to spend like $200 for some crazy mod like some of these people... part of the reason I switched was to save money....
And it's doing that quite well  I was spending about 250/month on cigs.. I'm spending about less than 20 a month on juice...
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
#19123484 - 11/11/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh derp.. you said clearomizer... I always get those confused. Yeah I know nothing about the wick ones.. I use a cartomizer too
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Shroomism]
#19123495 - 11/11/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Huh, yeah I'm using a 2.2ohm with an ego 1100. It's probably my 60% VG. Where do you get your juice Shroomism? I'm spending $80 a month on the stuff, I puff constantly on 6mg.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Shroomism]
#19123502 - 11/11/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wait the protank's not a cart, right?
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
#19123515 - 11/11/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I get 18mg. I'll probably go down to 12 soon.
I was getting it all from a local shop...they give you points everytime you buy something and you build up points and can use it to get free shit. we got shitloads of vape shops that opened up around here.
But recently I discovered http://www.mtbakervapor.com/electronic-cigarette-nicotine-juice/ Which has some of the cheapest deals I have found.. good juice too. They use a mix of PG (80%) and VG
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
#19123525 - 11/11/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rev. Morton said: Wait the protank's not a cart, right?
Hmm yeah.. I just looked.. and Mini Protank is a clearomizer. lol.. like I said I confuse them a lot.
I paid $20 for it retail... then I found this... http://www.kangeronline.com/products/kanger-mini-protank-2-clearomizer
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Shroomism]
#19123567 - 11/11/13 09:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, I was confused as hell when I started. Herb vapes, wax vapes, and e-cigs. I was told to get cartomizers but they tasted weird. Love my Kanger. Going 0mg next month.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
#19123917 - 11/11/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I alzo use evod tanks an vision spinner battery thought about get a mini protank today how do ylu like it
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And the guy at the local shop here told me today that with a 2.5ohm tank u should run between 3.9 and 4.2
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
#19124186 - 11/12/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rev. Morton said: What kind of clearomizers do you guys use? I've got a Kanger Evod and the atomizers turn all black after a few days even though I keep it full.
I find that thick,sweet juices gunk up the atomiser a lot faster than thinner, milder tasting ones. I have a feeling it's the sugar caramelising on the coil.
The good news is, the Evod atomisers are really easy to rebuild. All you need is some nichrome wire and cotton balls for wicks.
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my lungs are killing me, im thinking about going the vape direction.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Legend]
#19124346 - 11/12/13 12:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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but brawr vaping is smoking, havent you seen the commercials read the newspaper?
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Quote:
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Rev. Morton said: What kind of clearomizers do you guys use? I've got a Kanger Evod and the atomizers turn all black after a few days even though I keep it full.
I find that thick,sweet juices gunk up the atomiser a lot faster than thinner, milder tasting ones. I have a feeling it's the sugar caramelising on the coil.
The good news is, the Evod atomisers are really easy to rebuild. All you need is some nichrome wire and cotton balls for wicks.
Huh, I didn't think of that I do add sweetener. I'll have to search youtube for a rebuild tek.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
#19124629 - 11/12/13 02:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sweet juices leave more gunk on the coil from what I been figuring out.
I enjoy Mt baker vapor after a fellow shroomerite turned me onto them. Made to order that day and shipped out asap. So it may need to steep a week. I haven't tried any others out.
rocking a 1000mah twist and kanger protank 2. Might get a innokin mvp2 I think its like 60 bucks and lasts a couple days on a charge. Good for those days when I'm working and pass out before charging it.
Saw this link earlier today
10 coolest E-cig Mods
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I rebuilt my coils a couple weeks ago and things been better then before. I did sort of a micro coil that I pulled from this video
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Legend] 2
#19124663 - 11/12/13 02:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Legend said: my lungs are killing me, im thinking about going the vape direction.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Shroomism]
#19125898 - 11/12/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Be careful: I read the abstract for a study I found on reddit.com/r/DrugNerds which showed that two of the flavoring chemicals in CINNAMON FLAVORED e-liquid to be potentially toxic!
So yeah, I'd skip the cinnamon flavor, for now.
I vape here and there, but I'm still smoking. Need to start vaping more, and smoking less. Because of shit like the above, I do not consider it a 100% safe alternative. Nicotine is, of course, still bad for you... particularly in larger amounts (though small amounts have shown some nootropic type effect.) But aside from the nicotine, there's the propylene glycol or whatever other stuff they're using as a base. I mean, god knows what the long term effects of breathing that stuff regularly are... and then, of course, the flavoring agents. Depending on which flavor you're getting, that could include any of quite a number of compounds, with god-only-knows what type of safety or toxicity.
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Here you go:
Identification of toxicants in cinnamon-flavored electronic cigarette refill fluids
Highlights
•Most cinnamon-flavored refill fluids were cytotoxic to embryonic and adult cells. •Human embryonic stem cells were more sensitive than adult pulmonary fibroblasts. •Four chemicals were identified in cinnamon-flavored refill fluids. •Dipropylene glycol and vanillin had low cytotoxicity. •Cinnamaldehyde and 2-methoxycinnamaldehyde were cytotoxic in the MTT assay.
Abstract
In a prior study on electronic cigarette (EC) refill fluids, Cinnamon Ceylon was the most cytotoxic of 36 products tested. The purpose of the current study was to determine if high cytotoxicity is a general feature of cinnamon-flavored EC refill fluids and to identify the toxicant(s) in Cinnamon Ceylon. Eight cinnamon-flavored refill fluids, which were screened using the MTT assay, varied in their cytotoxicity with most being cytotoxic. Human embryonic stem cells were generally more sensitive than human adult pulmonary fibroblasts. Most products were highly volatile and produced vapors that impaired survival of cells in adjacent wells. Cinnamaldehyde (CAD), 2-methoxycinnamaldehyde (2MOCA), dipropylene glycol, and vanillin were identified in the cinnamon-flavored refill fluids using gas chromatography–mass spectrometry and high-pressure liquid chromatography (HPLC). When authentic standards of each chemical were tested using the MTT assay, only CAD and 2MOCA were highly cytotoxic. The amount of each chemical in the refill fluids was quantified using HPLC, and cytotoxicity correlated with the amount of CAD/product. Duplicate bottles of the same product were similar, but varied in their concentrations of 2MOCA. These data show that the cinnamon flavorings in refill fluids are linked to cytotoxicity, which could adversely affect EC users.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0887233313002610
Yeah, so like I said... skip cinnamon.
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I love my Volcano E-Cig!! I smoked for ten years before finding the wonderful world of vaping. Studies are showing that E Cigs are way more effective for quitting than almost any other method. I buy expensive E Juice with only like 4 ingredients that are all natural, like vegetable glycerin.
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Bummer to hear about cinnamon flavor. I got some as a freebie. Was mixing a few drops in with apple for some fall festivity.
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PG is still bad for you, small percentage turns to formaldehyde. I try to keep PG low, still way better than smoking.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
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Rev. Morton said: PG is still bad for you, small percentage turns to formaldehyde. I try to keep PG low, still way better than smoking.
you get more formaldehyde from eating fruit
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Considering how much I vape and how little fruit I eat, I doubt it.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
#19127062 - 11/12/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rev. Morton said: PG is still bad for you, small percentage turns to formaldehyde. I try to keep PG low, still way better than smoking.
Can you source that? My brother was telling me something along the lines of the PG solutions used in E-cigs may be toxic. Honestly, this surprises me seeing as the certain liquid medications, and inhalers use the stuff.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Legend]
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
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Rev. Morton said: http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/03/new-study-of-electronic-cigarette-vapor.html
oh! so it comes from the heating of the PG. thanks for the link rev. i wonder if they'll add chemicals to counteract the possible 'negative' outcomes, like they did with tobacco. probably not, but very interesting none-the-less.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Legend]
#19127206 - 11/12/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, like the study says, vaping is still far safer.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
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Rev. Morton said: PG is still bad for you, small percentage turns to formaldehyde. I try to keep PG low, still way better than smoking.
I wonder how it compares to the other ones they use for a base. I forget which.... IDK if vegetable glycerin is one, or if I'm pulling that right out of my ass... I thought there was another that was similar to propylene glycol...
...I found this place that lets you mix your own liquids, and they give you several choices for what to use as the base. Some are supposedly smoother than others, but I'm wondering how they compare in terms of potential toxicity. I'll have to look that up...
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Ive used 6 vapes...
Including the g-pen wish hash
I'd say go for something with a whip if you can.. direct hit ones can hurt like a bitch cause of the heat. And the bag vapes are good for groups but the vape does get stale..
Fuckcombustion.com is the place to learn about vapes n which one because peole own tons there
Just don't smoke n vape or else you won't feel as high from vaping.. because when you smoke your combusting other things that add on to the high
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
#19129818 - 11/13/13 02:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rev. Morton said: Huh, yeah I'm using a 2.2ohm with an ego 1100. It's probably my 60% VG. Where do you get your juice Shroomism? I'm spending $80 a month on the stuff, I puff constantly on 6mg.
6 mg? U wot?
I vape 24 usually. Ive got some ego-t thang with the variable voltage and the led display. Its aight.
Im gonna get me one of these soon
http://www.ruvaped.com/shop/glass-globe-attachment/#tab-reviews
Edit: My favorite juice people is http://www.vapedudes.com/
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Never smoked cigs but i prefer to get stoned off the vape vs the smoke, doesn't mean I don't hit the bong a lot though
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The best juice companies I've tried so far.
Vermillion River Good Life Vapor Mt. Baker Vapor Heather's Heavenly Vapes (Don't let the girly angle deter you, their extracted tobaccos flavors are among the best).
Vermillion River's Kentucky Premium Blend and HHV's Legend are my most consistently used flavors. And then I have one or 2 that I rotate in sometimes to mix things up. Right now it's Banana Nut Bread.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
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You can also just get 100% VG juice if you are concerned
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Shroomism]
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Vaping seemed to work for me but I sort of scared myself out of it for some reason. While I was doing it my head seemed to clear up a bit and seemed like a less toxic alternative to cigarettes. The liquid I got was 50/50 pg/vg fluid. If you have something like a 10 ml bottle at 14mg/ml you actually only absorbed like 10-50 percent of the nicotine into your body from that bottle.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Shroomism]
#19131890 - 11/13/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can anyone recommend an atomizer that actually works with 100% VG?
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
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this is just my  but i love using a vaporizer over smoking way more had a vape that worked with the bong too
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
#19143901 - 11/16/13 02:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The only thing with 100% VG is that it produces very little vapor.. 30PG /70VG seems to be a good ratio..
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Vermillion River Good Life Vapor Mt. Baker Vapor Heather's Heavenly Vapes (Don't let the girly angle deter you, their extracted tobaccos flavors are among the best).
Vermillion River's Kentucky Premium Blend and HHV's Legend are my most consistently used flavors. And then I have one or 2 that I rotate in sometimes to mix things up. Right now it's Banana Nut Bread.
I just ordered 30ml of the Kentucky Vanilla Blend Been looking for a good vanilla one and based on your recommendation I found that one and it had some good reviews.. hope I like it. Supposed to be like the Kentucky Premium with a nice mix of vanilla
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Shroomism]
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I couldn't get into it. The satisfaction compared to inhaling actual smoke just isn't there for me.
Besides most people I know who were smokers and switched end up smoking a fuck ton more of that shit than they were cigarettes and I don't see how that helps people quit (nicotine).
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: schwarg]
#19143973 - 11/16/13 02:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Whatever floats yer boat
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: schwarg]
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Even if you don't quit nicotine... the point is that it's 100x less harmful to your lungs and body than smoking cigs. Also with most vapers, the idea is to lower the percentage of nicotine over time, until you are down to 0% nicotine.
Yeah I do smoke a lot more though. Since I can vape indoors.... I'm vaping at my desk at work and shit now.. HA!
For me though it was the perfect substitute for smoking I had been smoking a pack a day for like 15 years, got a vape and haven't smoked a cigarette since 3-4 months later It satisfies all of the cravings - the nicotine fix, the act and ritual of smoking something and the act of inhaling/exhaling a smoke-like substance.
I'm glad I'm not spending $250 a month on cigarettes anymore, and I feel better. Instead, I spend $20 on juice.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Shroomism]
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I've been off and on the vapor for a few years now. Cigarettes are better for camping and being in the woods though, along with other situations. Charging batteries and topping up carts is such a pain in the ass sometimes, so sometimes I just smoke cigarettes. It's more realistic to view the vapor as an alternative, one that I can use to enable me to take long breaks from cigarettes. If you can take a week off from cigarettes, at will, from time to time, it does wonders for your body's ability to recover and stay healthier. I think, anyway.
Kentucky Vanilla used to be my favorite, it tasted like waffle cones with vanilla ice cream soaked into it. But I must have broke my tongue along the way because now it tastes kind of blah. KPB is the shit though and I always make sure to have some handy.
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alright here is my opinion....i have owned a for a few years now....have smoked ounces of nugs out of it....and honestly i cough and have more lung irritation from it than smoking....i have had spontaneous pneumothorax on both of my lungs and that is why i decided to buy the volcano....but for some reason it seem like the vapor effects my lungs in a more negative way than actual smoke.....maybe it get into the smaller pockets that smoke cant reach or what....probably just all in my head but that is my opinion.... 
edit....damnt it are you talking about an e-cig...should of read the op....fuck that shit just quit smoking both cigarettes and e-cigs....
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: jboredone]
#19144537 - 11/16/13 08:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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it's all about the heat
run your tube through some water and i gaurantee it ill all be history
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: jboredone]
#19144539 - 11/16/13 08:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just say yes, no, maybe so!
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Konyap]
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that sucks about your lungs tho
smoking drugs isn't as tested as it appears to be
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Konyap]
#19144547 - 11/16/13 08:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Illyabo said: that sucks about your lungs tho
smoking drugs isn't as tested as it appears to be
or maybe vaping drugs doesn't have enough test.....
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PeyoteZen said: I've been off and on the vapor for a few years now. Cigarettes are better for camping and being in the woods though, along with other situations. Charging batteries and topping up carts is such a pain in the ass sometimes, so sometimes I just smoke cigarettes.
I hear ya. When I'm out fishing or metal detecting my hands are full and I like to have a cig in my mouth or between my fingers every now and then. I can't walk around with my pen hanging on my lip.
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CidneyIndole said: Here you go:
Identification of toxicants in cinnamon-flavored electronic cigarette refill fluids
Highlights
•Most cinnamon-flavored refill fluids were cytotoxic to embryonic and adult cells. •Human embryonic stem cells were more sensitive than adult pulmonary fibroblasts. •Four chemicals were identified in cinnamon-flavored refill fluids. •Dipropylene glycol and vanillin had low cytotoxicity. •Cinnamaldehyde and 2-methoxycinnamaldehyde were cytotoxic in the MTT assay.
Abstract
In a prior study on electronic cigarette (EC) refill fluids, Cinnamon Ceylon was the most cytotoxic of 36 products tested. The purpose of the current study was to determine if high cytotoxicity is a general feature of cinnamon-flavored EC refill fluids and to identify the toxicant(s) in Cinnamon Ceylon. Eight cinnamon-flavored refill fluids, which were screened using the MTT assay, varied in their cytotoxicity with most being cytotoxic. Human embryonic stem cells were generally more sensitive than human adult pulmonary fibroblasts. Most products were highly volatile and produced vapors that impaired survival of cells in adjacent wells. Cinnamaldehyde (CAD), 2-methoxycinnamaldehyde (2MOCA), dipropylene glycol, and vanillin were identified in the cinnamon-flavored refill fluids using gas chromatography–mass spectrometry and high-pressure liquid chromatography (HPLC). When authentic standards of each chemical were tested using the MTT assay, only CAD and 2MOCA were highly cytotoxic. The amount of each chemical in the refill fluids was quantified using HPLC, and cytotoxicity correlated with the amount of CAD/product. Duplicate bottles of the same product were similar, but varied in their concentrations of 2MOCA. These data show that the cinnamon flavorings in refill fluids are linked to cytotoxicity, which could adversely affect EC users.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0887233313002610
Yeah, so like I said... skip cinnamon.
Study was flawed
http://www.ecigarette-research.com/web/index.php/2013-04-07-09-50-07/138-cinnamon-flavours-in-e-cigarettes
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Shroomism]
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Definitely flawed.
In other news, all Marijuana is bad for you because someone tested a "sample" and found it to contain traces of a Mexican's urine.
You get that KVB yet, Shroomism?
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i just got an eGo yesterday. liking it so far. 15mg nicotine "cowboy red" blend
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morrowasted said: i just got an eGo yesterday. liking it so far. 15mg nicotine "cowboy red" blend
ahhhhhh iwant one so bad!
i heard there in stores now, you dont even need to go online for a eGo.
but BEWARE... i did hear that someone apparantly died from the battery acid coming through the mouth piece, n inhaling it, or something..
im not sure how valid it is, but i heard it a couple of times that its very real and possible and can kill you
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Endure]
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Endure said:
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morrowasted said: i just got an eGo yesterday. liking it so far. 15mg nicotine "cowboy red" blend
ahhhhhh iwant one so bad!
i heard there in stores now, you dont even need to go online for a eGo.
but BEWARE... i did hear that someone apparantly died from the battery acid coming through the mouth piece, n inhaling it, or something..
im not sure how valid it is, but i heard it a couple of times that its very real and possible and can kill you
yeah I got mine in a store. two of them with charger and case and two 10ml bottles of liquid for $61
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yupp im deff gunna grab one...
this will help me quit weed... n occasional cigarettes which i regret so much after
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Endure]
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If that's your mindset going in, it should be easy to do. When I first found a set-up that worked well it was off to the races. Weeks and weeks with no cigarettes.
The exploding E-Cig
An electronic cigarette blew up in a Florida man's face, leaving him in a hospital with severe burns, missing his front teeth and a chunk of his tongue.
Fire officials said Wednesday that the man had switched to electronic cigarettes to try and quit smoking, and that the scary situation was caused by a faulty battery.
"The best analogy is like it was trying to hold a bottle rocket in your mouth when it went off," said Joseph Parker, division chief for the North Bay Fire Department. "The battery flew out of the tube and set the closet on fire."
Fire Chief Joseph Miller said the victim contacted the department on Wednesday to thank firefighters and told them he was recovering at a hospital in Mobile, Ala., and anticipated being released later in the day. Officials have not publicly identified him, citing department policy. But a Facebook page under the name of 57-year-old Tom Holloway of Niceville was filled with well-wishers commenting on the injury and database searches matched his address on the fire report with his name.
Holloway was at his home office when the device exploded, leaving behind burned carpet, chair cushions, pictures and office equipment. A scorched battery case found on a piece of melted carpet appears to be one for a cigar-sized device, the report said. Those in the house with him rushed to his aid in the smoke-filled room and tried to put the fire out with salt, the report said.
Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/electronic-cigarette-explodes-in-mans-mouth-causes-serious-injuries/
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I had a pass-though battery that I left plugged in and it got hot and warm and started smoking. So dont leave a pass though plugged in. Coulve exploded, but your battery is more likely to die on you that explode.
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currently vaping Raspberry Peach.
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Here's what I wish someone had told me when I started vaping:
Don't mess with cartomizers or ego C4s, get a clearomizer tank with replaceable coil. Kanger Evods are cheap. Remove the coil top and remove top wicks, dry burn and rinse to clean. Don't mess with Ego batteries, they only last a couple months and have been known to leak. Invest in a mod that takes 18350 batteries, they are cheaper to replace. Passthrough on the desk.
If your tank gurgles, covering the tip with tissue and whip the tip back and forth a few times solves the problem.
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Re: vaping vs smoking [Re: Middleman]
#19182577 - 11/24/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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ever since i got mine I only use it a 3-5 times a day, about 5 puffs, and havent smoked any cigs. have not experienced any nicotine withdrawal. was smoking like 7-10 cigs a day
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