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Hashfinger
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Ovoid cultivation from print?
#19120137 - 11/11/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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stevo said: I think it would be possible and neat to plant some in GA. Now would be a good time to do your chipping and collecting of seeds and nuts or whatever and let things age a bit for next year. Corn is a good thing to stock up on now. If you freeze an armfull of fresh ears of feed corn you could have plenty of vigorous spawn for next spring. Sure it's not hunting but still fun if you ask me.
I have an ovoid print, but I've never grown any mushrooms nor do I have syringes or any of the necessary equipment. Any ghetto tek for getting these spores going?
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 [Re: Hashfinger]
#19120389 - 11/11/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What you should do is pour some agar plates and swipe the spores on to agar.
You will not need syringes.
You will need a glove box, jars, grain spawn, pressure cooker, etc...
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Hashfinger
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Alan Rockefeller said: This would be a better topic for the cultivation forum.
However what you should do is pour some agar plates and swipe the spores on to agar.
You will not need syringes.
You will need a glove box, jars, grain spawn, pressure cooker, etc...
Pressure cooker? Everything sounded great until that... Why not just go grain spawn onto shredded cardboard or something, then work it up to woodchips in a bed or whatever?
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 [Re: Hashfinger]
#19121294 - 11/11/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hashfinger said: Pressure cooker? Everything sounded great until that... Why not just go grain spawn onto shredded cardboard or something, then work it up to woodchips in a bed or whatever?
Really? And how to you produce that grain spawn without sterilization?
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Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it. If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 *DELETED* [Re: canid]
#19121646 - 11/11/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hashfinger
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 [Re: stevo]
#19121773 - 11/11/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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stevo said: The pressure cooker is the main thing you don't want to skip. You can get one for $30 or less. Mine has paid for itself many times just cutting down on cooking time of food.
I like to make pda but with a bit more water added to make a gravy like consistency and innoc with wild print then 4-7 days drop the goo into a sterite grain jar that has a top 3/4 inch layer of pulped egg carton with a piece of egg carton on top of that as a landing pad. With this method I've only got one contaminated jar out of over 2 dozen jars, and that was accounted for from doing something stupid. I've done this with 5% karo as well with excellent results. I posted this on the cult forums and got nothing but naysayer comments which is understandable since most grow cubes and this doesn't work for cubes very well. After you get just one clean colonized jar, you can be extremely ghetto about things. Ovoid mycelium is extremely forgiving about contams. Something else that worked well with open air sporulation was cherry pits. I just did it really fast in a small mostly sealed box with the cardboard layer.
Can you enlighten me a little more on this peach pit thing? Sounds interesting. And I know you can sterilize without a pressure cooker using boiling water (steam), but does the pressure cooker just have that much better of a success rate?
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 [Re: Hashfinger] 1
#19121943 - 11/11/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Boiling water is barely hot enough to sterilize containers of grains.
Even with a pressure cooker you need to cook it a long time to get the inside sterile. Without a pressure cooker you would need to cook it much longer, and the success rate is low.
Grains are very nutritious, so you need to get it 100% sterile, 99.99% is not good enough.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 [Re: Gymspawn]
#19121990 - 11/11/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey Mr.Rockefeller what are those mushrooms in your avatar their beautiful.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 *DELETED* [Re: Hashfinger]
#19122034 - 11/11/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hashfinger
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 [Re: stevo]
#19122101 - 11/11/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks stevo yeah I knew you said cherry... my brain got all excited because I have loads of peach pits here in GA. I think they might even work better. The outside is all "brainy" yet woody, and the inside is a nutty substance (like an almond). I might try half the print on a "wild" setup, because the print is probably already contaminated anyway... If I end up needing a new hobby I'll spring for the PC.
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 [Re: Hashfinger]
#19122280 - 11/11/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Damn Alan Rockefeller your journal is awesome I'm gonna be lookin at it all night hey if anyone gets a chance check it out.
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Hashfinger
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 [Re: Gymspawn]
#19122298 - 11/11/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gymspawn said: Damn Alan Rockefeller your journal is awesome I'm gonna be lookin at it all night hey if anyone gets a chance check it out.
I always forget to look at other peoples' journals! Check mine out! I haven't made an entry in quite some time.
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 *DELETED* [Re: Hashfinger]
#19122462 - 11/11/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 [Re: stevo]
#19122550 - 11/11/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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When I was making grain spawn in the day, I did have much success using the 'fractional sterilization' technique, using multiple heat processings via hot-water bath with 12 hour break between.
It's no substitute for steam/pressure sterilization, but in a pinch it's certainly a substitute for it :P
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Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it. If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 [Re: Hashfinger]
#19122761 - 11/11/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hashfinger said: I always forget to look at other peoples' journals! Check mine out! I haven't made an entry in quite some time.
I just tried to But it shows you don't have one or it gives no option to click to view.
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Hashfinger
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 [Re: Gymspawn]
#19122792 - 11/11/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gymspawn said:
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Hashfinger said: I always forget to look at other peoples' journals! Check mine out! I haven't made an entry in quite some time.
I just tried to But it shows you don't have one or it gives no option to click to view.
Just click the little red book below my name/above avatar.
-------------------- Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus (Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 [Re: Gymspawn]
#19123392 - 11/11/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gymspawn said: Hey Mr.Rockefeller what are those mushrooms in your avatar their beautiful.
Entoloma holoconiota, a common springtime mushroom in the sierras of California.
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Gymspawn said: Damn Alan Rockefeller your journal is awesome I'm gonna be lookin at it all night hey if anyone gets a chance check it out.
Oh, thanks, I think you are the first person that has found it.
I just added a new one for you.
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stevo

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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 *DELETED* [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#19127315 - 11/12/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: THE OFFICIAL OVOID SEASON THREAD 2013 [Re: stevo]
#19127410 - 11/12/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Damn Hashfinger awesome trip report.
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