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un-known-ome
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: Rohto]
#19119743 - 11/11/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pureless said: You can't stand marijuana because it's not a substance for everyone. It's pretty simple really, MJ has side effects that outweigh positives for many people.
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Rohto said: Dont blame the plant man, the plant hasnt done shit and only does what its suppose to do. If you dont like smoking it then dont smoke or stop smoking but dont go on asking stupid questions like why do people use this drug? and that it has no value what so ever. Please stfu and keep your inccorect comments to yourself and go fukin get your fix on however you need to..
But this isn't about getting a fix. I don't need a goddamn fix. That's like the "theme" of this thread. Is getting high a fix for you? Because in my experience, that's what people are using it for: a fix. I don't like smoking because there's no reason to smoke anything. Ever. That's a ridiculous premise. Somehow people look at smoking tobacco and smoking marijuana and they don't draw any parallels. Why does anyone insist on burning plant matter and inhaling it? That was never a good idea from the standpoint of a sustainable habit. To a well-adjusted person who has a healthy relationship with drugs, there is no value to be found in marijuana. This idea that there is some grandiose benefit to getting high and doing things is absurd. At the point that you presume that you can just get high and do everything that would normally do, you are essentially saying that using marijuana is completely inconsequential or marginal, both in terms of health effects and psychological effects, which then begs the question "why even bother with it?" Like this guy who says "I'm high" above on this page. Seriously? Case and point.
It's this illusion that marijuana is enhancing parts of your life, which a lot of people are feeding into, and that's just not the case. You are boring when your stoned. That is a fact. It's kind of like if you've ever trip sat for someone: they act retarded. You need to be self-aware about this, which people aren't. As an appeal to people who think that they can be high and it makes no difference to anyone else...that's just not true. Like my same friend who smokes all the time when I see him, he's not aware that he sounds like an idiot and that he was just put up a barrier not only between me and him, but to everyone else.
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MinnesnowtaNice
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Yea... If you don't like then don't smoke. Simple enough for you, bud?
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Pureless
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un-known-ome said:
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Pureless said: You can't stand marijuana because it's not a substance for everyone. It's pretty simple really, MJ has side effects that outweigh positives for many people.
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Rohto said: Dont blame the plant man, the plant hasnt done shit and only does what its suppose to do. If you dont like smoking it then dont smoke or stop smoking but dont go on asking stupid questions like why do people use this drug? and that it has no value what so ever. Please stfu and keep your inccorect comments to yourself and go fukin get your fix on however you need to..
But this isn't about getting a fix. I don't need a goddamn fix. That's like the "theme" of this thread. Is getting high a fix for you? Because in my experience, that's what people are using it for: a fix. I don't like smoking because there's no reason to smoke anything. Ever. That's a ridiculous premise. Somehow people look at smoking tobacco and smoking marijuana and they don't draw any parallels. Why does anyone insist on burning plant matter and inhaling it? That was never a good idea from the standpoint of a sustainable habit. To a well-adjusted person who has a healthy relationship with drugs, there is no value to be found in marijuana. This idea that there is some grandiose benefit to getting high and doing things is absurd. At the point that you presume that you can just get high and do everything that would normally do, you are essentially saying that using marijuana is completely inconsequential or marginal, both in terms of health effects and psychological effects, which then begs the question "why even bother with it?" Like this guy who says "I'm high" above on this page. Seriously? Case and point.
It's this illusion that marijuana is enhancing parts of your life, which a lot of people are feeding into, and that's just not the case. You are boring when your stoned. That is a fact. It's kind of like if you've ever trip sat for someone: they act retarded. You need to be self-aware about this, which people aren't. As an appeal to people who think that they can be high and it makes no difference to anyone else...that's just not true. Like my same friend who smokes all the time when I see him, he's not aware that he sounds like an idiot and that he was just put up a barrier not only between me and him, but to everyone else.

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russhroom
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: ChinChiller]
#19119912 - 11/11/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Errolscool said: I love my marijuana. Makes doing nothing/ the mundane entertaining 
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anne halonium
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: russhroom]
#19119927 - 11/11/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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all the more for me.
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un-known-ome
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MinnesnowtaNice said: Yea... If you don't like then don't smoke. Simple enough for you, bud?
And I don't. That's not simple enough, though. I know I'm not alone on this. I know it. As someone who is very observant about human behavior, I see the hypocrisy that's inherent the a lot of people's use of marijuana. It's there, whether or not you see it. Surely it doesn't go unnoticed by more people. Posting in this community is definitely barking up the wrong tree, but that's partly why I'm doing it: to get people's attention. If it's been a month since you last used marijuana and you feel like it would really do you some good, then you have a healthy, balanced relationship with it. But who uses it that judiciously? Anyone?
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Pureless
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 Not many people are as closed minded as you, try talking to some 60 year old right wingers though
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anne halonium
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: Pureless]
#19119982 - 11/11/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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hypocrisy?
i boldly smoke , and anyone who feels different can draw swords.
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MinnesnowtaNice
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: Pureless]
#19120008 - 11/11/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What the fuck you mean that's not simple enough? What you want every single person who uses marijuana to explain to you why they use it, so what you can tell them your opinion on it? Here is a question why the fuck do you care? It's weed man? Coming from someone who has used it a handful of times you sound pretty ignorant.
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TheHerbalColorado
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: Alexestalex]
#19120016 - 11/11/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alexestalex said: Can you explain what benefits you're referring to when you say that marijuana accomplishes nothing? Since when are drugs supposed to help you accomplish anything?
The "benefit" of marijuana is really simple- it enhances sensation. That's it. Thinking becomes more fun and creative, food begins to have a lot more flavor and taste, music puts you in this trippy headspace that feels really good, the concepts of past and future begin to disintegrate and you feel more in the now, and so forth. Basically, any activity that you enjoy sober generally tends to feel better when you're high.
How you don't understand that is beyond me.
I stopped smoking weed about 3.5 months ago. I agree that it still definitely has value. But I am much happier not smoking everyday. It burns a lot of money, and I start to question if the somewhat mild effects are worth the cost. Now, unlike OP, I don't blame people for their everyday use. In fact, I quite like to sit and relax with people who wanna smoke a blunt or whatever even if I don't want to smoke it. It's an amazing thing to compliment other substances, and a great tool to relax. But after a certain amount of everyday use and habituation, getting high becomes ablout maintaining rather than exceeding. It's just less fun. After I feel I've been sober long enough to not fiend over it, I'll go back to it.
Getting high is cool.
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anne halonium
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im thinking he cant score dank , and its sour grapes.
peeps do this, they get all superior cuz they dont smoke pot.
jokes on them, pot smokers rule. we beat the entire globes drug war machine, in just a few decades.
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MinnesnowtaNice
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It won't waste all your money if you grow it yourself. It won't cause your body harm if you eat it instead of smoke it. If you don't like it don't smoke it.
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Marijuana produces specific states of awareness which are desirable to people who like to use it. Meditation is a method of inducing long term conscious change to those who like to do it. Viewing art or painting/drawing will produce a subtle alteration in ones consciousness which is apparent to those who can sense minute change. Hell, I even notice a change in consciousness when having a deep philosophical discussion or debate. I wouldn't say any of the above are pointless because they add nothing to the sum of knowledge or fail to forward the evolution of mankind. If a person enjoys the state that Marijuana induces, even if they abuse it and don't cause harm to anyone else, then where is the issue?
If you find your friends boring When toking, and they always toke, then take the initiative and drop them. Find new friends.
Life is way too short to get hung up on things you can't change in other people.
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MinnesnowtaNice
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: misterjingo]
#19120077 - 11/11/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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misterjingo said: Marijuana produces specific states of awareness which are desirable to people who like to use it. Meditation is a method of inducing long term conscious change to those who like to do it. Viewing art or painting/drawing will produce a subtle alteration in ones consciousness which is apparent to those who can sense minute change. Hell, I even notice a change in consciousness when having a deep philosophical discussion or debate. I wouldn't say any of the above are pointless because they add nothing to the sum of knowledge or fail to forward the evolution of mankind. If a person enjoys the state that Marijuana induces, even if they abuse it and don't cause harm to anyone else, then where is the issue?
If you find your friends boring When toking, and they always toke, then take the initiative and drop them. Find new friends.
Life is way too short to get hung up on things you can't change in other people.
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mylfgur
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Pureless said: You can't stand marijuana because it's not a substance for everyone. It's pretty simple really, MJ has side effects that outweigh positives for many people.
This.
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un-known-ome said: This idea that there is some grandiose benefit to getting high and doing things is absurd. At the point that you presume that you can just get high and do everything that would normally do, you are essentially saying that using marijuana is completely inconsequential or marginal, both in terms of health effects and psychological effects...
You are boring when your stoned. That is a fact. It's kind of like if you've ever trip sat for someone: they act retarded. You need to be self-aware about this, which people aren't. As an appeal to people who think that they can be high and it makes no difference to anyone else...that's just not true. Like my same friend who smokes all the time when I see him, he's not aware that he sounds like an idiot and that he was just put up a barrier not only between me and him, but to everyone else.
You have a confirmation bias with cannabis use. There's obviously nothing anyone can say on this forum that would convince you that the drug can help people. You're just as 'dumb' as you think your friend is if you cannot get past this.
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GreySatyr
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: mylfgur] 1
#19120170 - 11/11/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread makes me wanna smoke pot and I quit several months ago for probation.
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anne halonium
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: GreySatyr]
#19120223 - 11/11/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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helps me alot......... otherwise id be mean.
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MinnesnowtaNice
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anne halonium said: helps me alot......... otherwise id be mean.
I know right? Lol I'm such an asshole when I'm sober
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