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OfflineNotLiving
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Emotional numbness
    #19119000 - 11/11/13 04:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hey guys, have anyone here ever dealt with emotional numbness and anhedonia? This thing just bothers me to no end... I mean, I know that you shouldn't get stuck thinking about this but hell, it just feels like a living hell.

I took 2g of shrooms today. I can't say I felt much, though. I don't know if it's the shrooms' potency or whatever, but boy do I still feel numb.

Ah, I don't know. I got more to say but I feel like my brain's too foggy to really type it up.

I was wondering if anyone has experiences with psychedelics and emotional numbness/anhedonia/apathy/dysthymia and felt a lot better throughout? Maybe, able to feel your emotions again?

:frown: Just wanting to be alive for once... again...


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Re: Emotional numbness [Re: NotLiving]
    #19119103 - 11/11/13 05:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Shrooms work based in the brain's monoamines (dopamine, serotonin, etc) .  Not just the chems themselves but how much is released how fast and other processes. If your brain already had a baseline of serotonin then the shrooms wouldn't do their usual number. 

Anhedonia isn't just about not getting the most dope out of your trip. It's a side-effect of depression.

You have to set a limit to your partying and a balance.  Or else the party becomes work.


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Re: Emotional numbness [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19119293 - 11/11/13 07:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Do the checklist man,

- are you sleeping right? if not, fix the next point:
- are you exercising enough, or at all? Lymph won't move unless you move it. No lymph movement no proper cell detox, no proper sleep, you lay awake at night thinking fucked up thoughts. So :banana: 15-20 min at least every day, on the clock.
- are you getting any sex and/or positive fun social contact? are you at any point touching skins and looks and words with another human being that you actually care about? or dog or cat for that matter?
- are you eating right? Is your omega 3 balance right?

If your score on this checklist is 0 out of 4, then your problem isn't shrooms, it's a severe lack of :boobs: in your face :lol:

Oh and don't trip alone, on the long run it's not the solution. Find girl trip with her, or find trippy friends trip together :tripping::tripping::tripping:


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For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it,
and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
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Re: Emotional numbness [Re: Spacerific]
    #19124274 - 11/12/13 12:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I know how ya feel bro. I once did some mushrooms and couldn't feel any emotions. I decided to smoke some budder. It felt like it litterally opened the door to feeling emotions again. It was like a weight taken off my shoulders.


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Re: Emotional numbness [Re: NotLiving]
    #19127258 - 11/12/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Were there visuals, any indication that the dose was good enough to cause a trip?


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Re: Emotional numbness [Re: Hygrocybe]
    #19127669 - 11/12/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Your style of thinking is probably the cause.

Become more focused on your thinking, sort of identify extreme / irrational thoughts by being calm, relaxed and rational first. Get a feel for what you're doing to yourself, then that at least will begin the change to something a bit more fair on yourself and life's circumstances. Step back from what you're thinking and go, wheeeew, that's intense. It's a good start...


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Re: Emotional numbness [Re: Spacerific]
    #19127834 - 11/12/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
Shrooms work based in the brain's monoamines (dopamine, serotonin, etc) .  Not just the chems themselves but how much is released how fast and other processes. If your brain already had a baseline of serotonin then the shrooms wouldn't do their usual number. 

Anhedonia isn't just about not getting the most dope out of your trip. It's a side-effect of depression.

You have to set a limit to your partying and a balance.  Or else the party becomes work.



I don't really party much... at all. I wasn't even much of a party hardy before all of this started to happen.

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Spacerific said:
Do the checklist man,

- are you sleeping right? if not, fix the next point:
- are you exercising enough, or at all? Lymph won't move unless you move it. No lymph movement no proper cell detox, no proper sleep, you lay awake at night thinking fucked up thoughts. So :banana: 15-20 min at least every day, on the clock.
- are you getting any sex and/or positive fun social contact? are you at any point touching skins and looks and words with another human being that you actually care about? or dog or cat for that matter?
- are you eating right? Is your omega 3 balance right?

If your score on this checklist is 0 out of 4, then your problem isn't shrooms, it's a severe lack of :boobs: in your face :lol:

Oh and don't trip alone, on the long run it's not the solution. Find girl trip with her, or find trippy friends trip together :tripping::tripping::tripping:



Sleep schedule... It's bad.

Exercising, yes, I've been exercising for well over 10 months now. I'm gonna say that I've been weightlifting but then I'm probably get told that I'm better off doing some cardio or running :/

As for getting sex, no. "Positive fun" social contact? I get social contact, but in no way in my brain can I even consider them "fun". I really can't feel any of it in my brain, so yeah. And I've been to a couple of festivals before... I did dance with a girl, but I didn't feel much out of it. Well, it felt pretty relaxing and I guess it just felt good because I was rolling. I dunno.

I've been taking Omega-3 supplements, but nope. Haven't been doing much for me.

But oh well. I get these a lot. What's the point of getting sex when you have like no sex drive at all. No interest in doing it, and when you try to get it hard, it doesn't stay hard for long? In the end, you end up feeling like it's not worth it because you don't even feel the pleasure of it. The emotional connection between me and my partner just wouldn't be there.

I remember reading your post about saying that there doesn't even need to be sex involved...


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Re: Emotional numbness [Re: mentalpatient]
    #19127841 - 11/12/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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mentalpatient said:
I know how ya feel bro. I once did some mushrooms and couldn't feel any emotions. I decided to smoke some budder. It felt like it litterally opened the door to feeling emotions again. It was like a weight taken off my shoulders.



Weed? I've been smoking weed well before all this even happened and now it doesn't even do much for me. I feel like I'm a rare case :/ Everyone will tell me what has worked for them and I don't doubt it but I've given them all a slight try and it hasn't worked much for me. The few things I haven't really done are psychedelics...


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Re: Emotional numbness [Re: NotLiving]
    #19127987 - 11/12/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Sleep schedule... It's bad.



Why? Also, do you have and use melatonin, to help you set proper cycles? Do you spend some time outdoors to get your sun, natural light, to help set your circadian rhythms proper?

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Exercising, yes, I've been exercising for well over 10 months now. I'm gonna say that I've been weightlifting but then I'm probably get told that I'm better off doing some cardio or running :/



I think you're good dude, if you could do 10 mins of running in the morning, like literally a few sprints outside to wake you up, it should help quite a bit. The weight lifting is AOK :thumbup:

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As for getting sex, no. "Positive fun" social contact? I get social contact, but in no way in my brain can I even consider them "fun". I really can't feel any of it in my brain, so yeah. And I've been to a couple of festivals before... I did dance with a girl, but I didn't feel much out of it.



Well here we're getting somewhere. Let me expand my question a bit:

Do you get slow, chill, smooth SKIN ON SKIN contact with a girl? Look at nature shows. Mammals groom each other, rub, touch, play, hug etc. Basically all the things they tell you to not do in school and church. Being frisky, touching, licking, making out, poking, tickling hugging etc. Sex is good if it comes after enough of this kind of skin contact, so that your whole body is now chill and relaxed next to that person. If it's not, if you don't give your body enough time with someone else, then fucking or dancing with them once for a short time will do no good.

I used to be a complete nerd back in the day (especially before the aya and acid) and ALL of the body contact stuff escaped me, like it was turned off by years of incorrect conditioning. My hands would just fucking hang next to my body or in my pockets when trying to socialize, no bear hugs and fist bumps and high fives with the dudes, no getting playful with the girls. Depression was at home in my head for fucking DECADES, and I was insecure as fuck. Then I learned how to fix this skin contact stuff, and now it's way way more chill.

You need actual skin on skin contact, all social mammals do. Take some steps to get it (and give it to others, they need it just like you) and you should see a sharp improvement in how you feel. If it's a brand new skill for you it might feel weird at first. Shrooms and acid and MDMA help here :thumbup:

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I've been taking Omega-3 supplements, but nope. Haven't been doing much for me.



How much? A pill or two a day? Do your math and shoot for 1000 mg of EPA a day. FOr me that was 6 pills daily. Do your math and try it for a week.

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But oh well. I get these a lot. What's the point of getting sex when you have like no sex drive at all. No interest in doing it, and when you try to get it hard, it doesn't stay hard for long? In the end, you end up feeling like it's not worth it because you don't even feel the pleasure of it. The emotional connection between me and my partner just wouldn't be there.

I remember reading your post about saying that there doesn't even need to be sex involved...



Don't have sex. Get your fun times, skin contact, playing around, shooting the shit, real human companionship. Find a girl to tickle if nothing else comes to mind :lol: Go camping and spend a few evenings with a nice group around the fire. The outdoors and crickets and wind and grass will help reset you properly. Take MDMA with a significant girl in your life. Build some sort of lasting bonds with people that share your interests and appreciate you. The weirder you are the harder they may be to find, but I assure you they are out there.


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For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it,
and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
- Matthew 13:16


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