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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Rose] * 1
    #19121053 - 11/11/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, brilliant idea. Everyone should post whatever they want wherever they want, and we should just move threads accordingly. Because our job isn't thankless enough.

gzuf- I always consider context. "lite" trolling or whatever that doesn't hurt anyone and is just in jest is whatever to me. But you give an inch and some people take a mile.

OTD will never be closed, it was one of the original forums. This forum was created to be a haven of sorts.


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Rose]
    #19121060 - 11/11/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

In that case, the solution is simple.  Set a minimum penis length for mods...perhaps 8 inches.  I would suggest having an equivalent criterion for female candidates, although I've no idea what it would be.


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Enlil]
    #19121068 - 11/11/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Most people would generally post in the appropriate forum, much like they do now.  Mods would move some content, sure...but probably not that much...sorta like it is now...

...only without the bannings.

Will it be harder to get people to moderate when they don't have the dick-enlarging option of banning users in retaliation of real or perceived slights?  Probably...but the quality of the mods would be far better in the long run.




So by your theory, someone posts a grow log in a cultivation forum, and gets relentlessly flamed. Instead of warning the person who flamed, we move the entire thread to OTD... BRILLIANT!

I have no idea where dick size came into this conversation. But if you want to compare I'm down


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Shroomism]
    #19121082 - 11/11/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm up!


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Enlil]
    #19121089 - 11/11/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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In that case, the solution is simple.  Set a minimum penis length for mods...perhaps 8 inches.  I would suggest having an equivalent criterion for female candidates, although I've no idea what it would be.



The ones with the cutest shoes.


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Shroomism]
    #19121096 - 11/11/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It seems that the mods in this thread don't really need users at all, considering the consistency with which I've had words put in my mouth by them.

Just make a bunch of mod puppets and stage the conversations you feel SHOULD be in the fora.  Problem solved.


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Enlil]
    #19121108 - 11/11/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Also if someone takes a machine gun into a court room and points it at the judge, they shouldn't be charged with anything but instead moved to a shooting range. Or perhaps move the courtroom to a non gun free zone.

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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Enlil]
    #19121110 - 11/11/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

But we use you as a jumping off point Enlil. You users are our inspiration, our muses.


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Rose] * 1
    #19121126 - 11/11/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How many ban points would I get for telling you to fuck off? Just wondering, I currently have none and am curious to know what it feels like to sit on the naughty step in the pub. Purely from a hypothetical standpoint you understand..

For the record that was intentionally worded as a question, I would never tell you to fuck off Shroomism.

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3-6





I can't believe I actually got 3 ban points for that! How many do I need to get a free t-shirt?? I would question the mod responsible and their ability to:

A) Take a joke

B) Read a post and actually understand what it says..

I get another 117 points before I am banned though, right? I don't have a calculator, how many times could someone like Coaster potentially tell a mod to fuck off?? NOT ME OF COURSE (this was made abundantly clear in my previous post and somehow misinterpreted..)



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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19121138 - 11/11/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You got no points for that post. You would get 3-6 for a flame if it was one. You asked, I answered.

Most flames get 3 points.

Now calm down. You get an official PM for any ban points.


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Shroomism]
    #19121149 - 11/11/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Also if someone takes a machine gun into a court room, they shouldn't be charged with anything but instead moved to a shooting range. Or perhaps move the courtroom to a non gun free zone.

Splitting hairs is fun



Punishing speech is not the same as punishing conduct, but I'm confident that you already know that.

You and Cervantes can play games all day long, largely because you are the people with the power...but the fact is that we are talking about regulating the speech of people on this site, and that is NOT something to be taken lightly.

No one in this thread has advocated for a free-for-all, although you've attributed a similar position to me.  Nonetheless, the regulation of speech, particularly on a site of this kind, should be handled with the most delicate of touch lest you undermine the entire purpose of this site.  I don't have all of the answers, but I am pretty confident that saying, "I will personally lay the smack down" can and will have a chilling effect on speech.

To quote Ythan, "It is my greatest desire that the Shroomery remain a haven for free speech and differing ideologies, including those generally deemed offensive and detestable, as long as such speech is not illegal, expresses a genuine belief or opinion, and is not an obvious attempt to generate discord or disrupt the community"

If this principle is still among the core values of this site, I urge you to rethink your strategy here.  Of course, you're free to ignore anything I say, or put words in my mouth...whatever.


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Enlil]
    #19121219 - 11/11/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I can vouch for Shroomism when it comes to free speech he is among the most outspoken.

This website offers as close to free speech as it legally can, you just have to use the proper places.

Scat pics in the Hunting forum, are not simply going to be moved to the proper forum by the Staff. 

You don't have to like it. There are other websites out there.


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Rose]
    #19121235 - 11/11/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/banomatic.php

What does this mean then?? It says I have 3 ban points and I have never flamed, trolled, insulted etc ever on this site until the previous lighthearted jibe..
Quote:

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You got no points for that post. You would get 3-6 for a flame if it was one. You asked, I answered.

Most flames get 3 points.

Now calm down. You get an official PM for any ban points.






I am perfectly calm, brah. I was actually finding it rather amusing, it appears sarcasm is, as ever, lost on Americans. Shocker.


EDIT: it says it was from Newbie for "an inappropriate post" at the exact time this little chat began..

Definitely no :pm: either....


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19121250 - 11/11/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You were given a warning in Jan 2011. Warnings give points too. I don't think they should but they do.


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Rose]
    #19121255 - 11/11/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I can vouch for Shroomism when it comes to free speech he is among the most outspoken.

This website offers as close to free speech as it legally can, you just have to use the proper places.




It must be true because you say so, right?

People get banned here for leaving negative ratings...I'm pretty sure that's not a legal requirement. 

But you said that the website offers as close to free speech as it legally can, so it must be true.


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Rose]
    #19121278 - 11/11/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You were given a warning in Jan 2011. Warnings give points too. I don't think they should but they do.





Fair enough, playing poker and reading things very quickly..


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Rose]
    #19121281 - 11/11/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You You're supposed to get an official PM for any ban points.




Fixed.


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19121311 - 11/11/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Turns out I got 3 ban points years ago for copying and pasting an image from one thread on this site to another..

That has been the limit of my wickedness to date..

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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Enlil]
    #19121322 - 11/11/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I am allowed to opine, as are you.

There are as many different ways to moderate as there are Mods.

Why do lawyers try to get different judges depending on the case? All judges are bound by the same guidelines. No?


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Re: ATTN: Trolling, flaming and BS [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #19121327 - 11/11/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Believe it or not.. but I am one of the mods that makes the biggest push for free speech. Also one of the most lax mods...
I got Rule 4 removed before... but then it was put back in because the other mods did not agree and it ended up with more spam.

But there is a fine line between free speech and saying whatever you want to whomever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want.
When your 'free speech' starts to hurt others and hurt the community as a whole and push people away from the site, THAT is when I lay the smack down.
This is a private forum, not a country.


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