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Adverse reactions after smoking DMT through a bong
    #19118134 - 11/10/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My friend smoked DMT for the first time using the sandwich method w/ weed through a bong. It was a small dose, probably about 5mg. It felt like a harsh hit, too hot and too dense, and he felt like his throat and chest were getting burnt. He found himself being unable to breathe properly, then started to get a panic attack. During the experience he had mostly uneasy and chaotic thoughts. Probably took the hit too quickly, as it made his oral cavities, throat and lungs so sore and numb that it caused panic during the experience.

He then developed hives two days later, similar to that of an allergic reaction and ended up in the hospital. The doctors thought he had some mild symptoms of Stevens-Johnson syndrome or Lupus... but concluded he doesn't have anything life-threatening. Still worried though. The back of his tongue has swollen up and developed a chameleon skin-like texture, with some white bulbs that are bleeding. He's recovering now, and using Betamethasone Valerate 0.1% topically for the hives.

The DMT didn't work much at all, although he had some color enhancement for a minute.

Very sad about this and frightened. :frown: Question is... Has this ever happened to anyone else?? Any idea what factors might've caused this? We're still trying to figure out if it was the vapor, mold in the weed, if the DMT had something else in it, or lye poisoning. He's used the bong for smoking weed other before and never had any problems with it though.


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Re: Adverse reactions after smoking DMT through a bong [Re: TDKRR]
    #19119440 - 11/11/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Never heard of it, at first I was thinking he just burnt the dmt. It tastes awful and makes you choke. But that wouldn't make you break out in hives. The only other thing I can think of is if someone fucked up the extraction.


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Re: Adverse reactions after smoking DMT through a bong [Re: Deemstar]
    #19119659 - 11/11/13 09:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There was some nasty impurities in that shit that he had an allergic reaction to. No one could possibly be allergic to dmt because you'd not last long if you were considering it's in your body naturally. Or he was allergic to dmt oxide which is produced by burning dmt in, as it reacts with oxygen in the air.

Or..burning his throat resulted in an immune reaction..maybe compromised his immune system where the shit burned him.

Honestly, this stupid shit is why I just use a milk jug with aluminum foil tapped to the bottom of it. That ghetto rig vaporizer might sound inefficient, but it never burns dmt unlike smoking it with a bong or pipe


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Re: Adverse reactions after smoking DMT through a bong [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #19119834 - 11/11/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I agree with the others who have posted. There was most likely two problems going on here. The first one being the DMT was no vaporized it was burnt. When you burn DMT it is a terrible experience. I would compare it to smoking a car tire. It will burn your throat and leave it sore for an entire day. Because of the hives and such I am assuming that there was an error in the extraction phase. What method did your friend use, and please tell me you didn't purchase the DMT from a dealer. If that's the case you never know what you're smoking.


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Re: Adverse reactions after smoking DMT through a bong [Re: Revolted627]
    #19119903 - 11/11/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

How fucking hard is it to order some bark and some hcl acid...

Sandwiched with weed in a bong is retarded... Takes 10 bucks to construct the "machine"

Morons...


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Re: Adverse reactions after smoking DMT through a bong [Re: Yogi1]
    #19120086 - 11/11/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I disagree Yogi1 the sandwich method is effective as long as you do it right. The idea is for the burning weed to vape the dmt before the embers hit the crystal itself. Albeit vaping out of my GVG is way more effective, some people don't do the research before they are presented with an opportunity to try the molecule. I would not call them morons, just people gaining experience through mistake is all.

As far as extracting it yourself, a lot of new users don't even know this is an option. Give um a break?


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Re: Adverse reactions after smoking DMT through a bong [Re: Revolted627]
    #19120195 - 11/11/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Revolted627 said:
I disagree Yogi1 the sandwich method is effective as long as you do it right. The idea is for the burning weed to vape the dmt before the embers hit the crystal itself. Albeit vaping out of my GVG is way more effective, some people don't do the research before they are presented with an opportunity to try the molecule. I would not call them morons, just people gaining experience through mistake is all.

As far as extracting it yourself, a lot of new users don't even know this is an option. Give um a break?




I want to not be an asshole but its kinda mandatory when kids are wasting very expensive Shit product before doing a single Google search, which is an option most phones have now.

Not to mention its so hard to break through with the wrong device.

You can have a powerful breakthrough on 30 mg with good product and the right administration.


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Re: Adverse reactions after smoking DMT through a bong [Re: Yogi1]
    #19120244 - 11/11/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Crack pipe has always worked for me, there's a million ways to make one. I've never had an issue with burning dmt using choirboy and the right method.


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Re: Adverse reactions after smoking DMT through a bong [Re: Deemstar]
    #19122223 - 11/11/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

We researched the best options and knew the Machine was the most recommended. We just used the resources we have available though and the bong was the safest that we thought we had (didn't want to be smoking with aluminum foils or anything). We're just gonna wait until we get the better equipment next time, and do extractions with someone who's done it before.

Thanks for the tips everyone.


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