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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: NWlight]
    #19112865 - 11/10/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I would probably answer that simple question but that's about it.


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: NWlight]
    #19112940 - 11/10/13 01:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I wouldn't let them detain me or search my car but I'd tell them I'm a citizen and keep going.

their job is to look for people coming into the USA illegally who leech off of our social safety net.  This country isn't perfect but it's pretty awesome and if we let everybody in it'll suck just as bad as the place they came from.




These citizens are doing it for the principle of the matter. These 'check points' might not seem like too much of a bother (yet) but they're still unconstitutional. There are much more effective (and legal) ways of controlling the influx of illegal aliens.


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: Stupendous-Yappi]
    #19112943 - 11/10/13 01:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

And they aren't even at the border, the fuck is this


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: volcomstoner]
    #19112952 - 11/10/13 01:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah they're allowed to setup a random chepoint like anywhere within 100miles or something of any US border for no reason at all.


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: Stupendous-Yappi]
    #19112990 - 11/10/13 01:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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"What's the reason you want to check my trunk?"

"uh?, your car is dirty"



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omg he tweeked when he seen that camera, ahahahhh!!

On the flip side, this dude better hope he has a camera with him every time he drives cuz im sure their gonna keep their eyes peeled for him now. that is scary


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: Stupendous-Yappi]
    #19112996 - 11/10/13 01:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Edit: Double post, my bad


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: NWlight] * 1
    #19113070 - 11/10/13 02:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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haha Maybe I have an uncommon opinion but illegal immigration is a serious problem and these people have an important job.






I thought the point of America is that it is open to anyone?

There should be no such thing as an illegal immigrant.

Also, it is totally illegal to stop someone without probable cause.  I don't know what gives these asshats the idea that it is ok to disregard the constitution.


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19113138 - 11/10/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The green pigs are the worst kind. They are officially charged with ruining the lives of poor people.


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: NWlight] * 1
    #19113301 - 11/10/13 04:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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haha Maybe I have an uncommon opinion but illegal immigration is a serious problem and these people have an important job.
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What if the person is a Mexican indian? In that case you are illegally occupying their land. It was a nice place until you people got here.
Anyway you people never complain about the low cost of a new house illegals built or the cheap kitchen help at your local bar. It always nonsense about them draining your tax dollars or some other angry white guy shit. It's so bad you are pro pig. Those rent a cops are draining your tax dollars faster then Mexicans on food stamps, and you support them.


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: NWlight] * 1
    #19113393 - 11/10/13 06:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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haha Maybe I have an uncommon opinion but illegal immigration is a serious problem and these people have an important job.


the guys in the video are tools, comparing them to nazis and stuff, jesus :rolleyes:



You must be LE. Busted.

These 'tools' were asserting the very rights that founded this country. Why is illegal immigration a serious problem?

Because you make it into one, or follow someone else who is making it into one.

I doubt very seriously it effects you in any way.

So people want to leave their country for another with better opportunity..its this very reason that your ancestors came to america to begin with.


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: hTx]
    #19115014 - 11/10/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)


Alright....

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Stupendous-Yappi said:
These citizens are doing it for the principle of the matter. These 'check points' might not seem like too much of a bother (yet) but they're still unconstitutional There are much more effective (and legal) ways of controlling the influx of illegal aliens.



The supreme court (guardians of the constitution) ruled that agents may set up these check points for "brief questioning".  By definition they are not unconstitutional.

I agree that there are more effective and legal ways of controlling the influx of illegal aliens - these methods are already used closer to the border.

These check points stopped over 15,000 people from entering the united states illegally just in 2008 alone.  Seems pretty effective to me.


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I thought the point of America is that it is open to anyone?

There should be no such thing as an illegal immigrant.

Also, it is totally illegal to stop someone without probable cause.  I don't know what gives these asshats the idea that it is ok to disregard the constitution.



America isn't open to anyone and it hasn't been since 1891. 

Whether or not there "should be such thing as an illegal immigrant" is an opinion- I accept that I will not be able to sway you on that point so I will not try.

Again, it is not illegal to stop someone without probable cause.  The Supreme Court upheld the legality of these checkpoints.


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What if the person is a Mexican indian? In that case you are illegally occupying their land. It was a nice place until you people got here.
Anyway you people never complain about the low cost of a new house illegals built or the cheap kitchen help at your local bar. It always nonsense about them draining your tax dollars or some other angry white guy shit. It's so bad you are pro pig. Those rent a cops are draining your tax dollars faster then Mexicans on food stamps, and you support them.




The idea of stealing land and throwing out the original occupants is barbaric.  I do not agree with the actions of the pioneers and colonialists.

I'm going to gloss over your point about cheap labor because you made assumptions and you have no idea what my opinions are on the matter- I wouldn't mind one bit if goods were to cost more.  In fact if companies had stricter rules about hiring immigrants I would love to pay more for their goods to support my countrymen. 

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You must be LE. Busted.

These 'tools' were asserting the very rights that founded this country. Why is illegal immigration a serious problem?

Because you make it into one, or follow someone else who is making it into one.

I doubt very seriously it effects you in any way.

So people want to leave their country for another with better opportunity..its this very reason that your ancestors came to america to begin with.




Yep I'm LE, you got me :rolleyes:

First of all, I am not against LEGAL immigration even one little bit.  Now...

Illegal immigration IS a serious problem.  The reason you don't see the effects of it is because we have such tight security at our borders.  Believe me, if anybody could come to the US just because they wanted to, the problems of poor countries would slowly infiltrate our society  and our crime would go up, our poverty levels would go up, etc etc...  You must see this.

It doesn't really affect me, no.  But just because something doesn't effect you does NOT mean it isn't a serious problem.  That is to say, if we did NOT enforce these laws then it would be a serious problem.


My ancestors did come here for a better life - to escape potato famine in Ireland.  They came here legally.


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: 404]
    #19116749 - 11/10/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Trolling the DHS FTW!


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: NWlight] * 1
    #19116803 - 11/10/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Whether or not there "should be such thing as an illegal immigrant" is an opinion- I accept that I will not be able to sway you on that point so I will not try.





The laws are keeping a lot of my friends in Mexico from visiting the US.  Basically the only friends of mine that are allowed to cross the border are A) In college or B) Rich. 

I have a lot of friends in Mexico, and it is sad that I can visit them and they can't visit me.

There are a lot of really good people in Mexico - Most of my friends are biologists or mycologists. 

We hunt mushrooms in some of the coolest habitats in Mexico.  Would be really nice if they could hunt with me in California.  But they would be turned away at the border without a visa.  Thats a bunch of BS right there.


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: Shroomism]
    #19116827 - 11/10/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Honestly all he's doing is trying to make himself look like a hardass. He's not truly trying to 'resist tyranny'. They are asking a very simple question, and all you have to do is say yes. It doesn't even have to be true and they won't pry into your business to find out.

  They are simply doing the job they are hired to do, which is to make this country just a little bit safer, and to find people who are in this country illegally. There is nothing wrong with that. The people that post these videos are only doing so to be funny/cool. It's not about exercising their right it's about making a show.

  If you don't give the government a hard time, they typically won't give you one. Yes, they do step over their boundaries on many other situations. But being an ass at an immigration check point is 100% unnecessary.

On the off chance he is attempting to make a stand for his rights I applaud him.


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19116848 - 11/10/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Whether or not there "should be such thing as an illegal immigrant" is an opinion- I accept that I will not be able to sway you on that point so I will not try.





The laws are keeping a lot of my friends in Mexico from visiting the US.  Basically the only friends of mine that are allowed to cross the border are A) In college or B) Rich. 

I have a lot of friends in Mexico, and it is sad that I can visit them and they can't visit me.

There are a lot of really good people in Mexico - Most of my friends are biologists or mycologists. 

We hunt mushrooms in some of the coolest habitats in Mexico.  Would be really nice if they could hunt with me in California.  But they would be turned away at the border without a visa.  Thats a bunch of BS right there.




People aren't allowed to inter willy-nilly because it poses a danger to American citizens. Sure, most people do not come here looking for trouble, but if there weren't checkpoints and the like, it would be even easier for people with bad intentions to come in and act upon those intentions.

Legally getting into the USA is too hard though for most people, I'll give you that. That needs reform, but the entire business of making sure you should be here if you're here does not need to go away.


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: dontknow]
    #19116850 - 11/10/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

In his comments he openly admits is the only reason he is doing it is for money because he is making a documentary, but I still like what he is doing.


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: dontknow]
    #19116862 - 11/10/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Honestly all he's doing is trying to make himself look like a hardass. He's not truly trying to 'resist tyranny'. They are asking a very simple question, and all you have to do is say yes. It doesn't even have to be true and they won't pry into your business to find out.

  They are simply doing the job they are hired to do, which is to make this country just a little bit safer, and to find people who are in this country illegally. There is nothing wrong with that. The people that post these videos are only doing so to be funny/cool. It's not about exercising their right it's about making a show.

  If you don't give the government a hard time, they typically won't give you one. Yes, they do step over their boundaries on many other situations. But being an ass at an immigration check point is 100% unnecessary.

On the off chance he is attempting to make a stand for his rights I applaud him.



Where do you draw the line then? what ammendments are okay to impede on, and which ones are not?


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: dontknow] * 1
    #19116917 - 11/10/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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They are simply doing the job they are hired to do, which is to make this country just a little bit safer, and to find people who are in this country illegally. There is nothing wrong with that. The people that post these videos are only doing so to be funny/cool. It's not about exercising their right it's about making a show.





Yes, there is something wrong with that.  My friend Sam got his car searched twice by border patrol checkpoints on the way back to California from mushroom hunting in Arizona.  Both times they searched his car without consent and found a whole ton of mushrooms.  They asked lots of questions about the mushrooms and the dehydrator.  Luckily only 1 percent of the mushrooms contained psilocybin, and the border patrol can not identify mushrooms very well.

However a lot of people get busted at these inland border patrol checkpoints.  My friend Lukas got caught with an ounce of cubensis after they decided to search the bus he was on for no reason other than it was painted crazy colors. 


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But being an ass at an immigration check point is 100% unnecessary.




In my opinion, it puts the border patrol on notice that their intrusions are not appreciated.  And each of these type of interactions will help remind the border patrol employees that they should change their tactics because the public doesn't approve.

And it's likely to make the agents themselves quit their job and find more fulfilling employment.  No one likes to go to work all day as an official usa citizens rights violator.  Not a fun way to make a paycheck.

The counties that have these immigration checkpoints make a lot of money by busting people at them.

I have not passed very many myself, just a few times, but a couple times they did run drug dogs around my car.


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19116930 - 11/10/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Whether or not there "should be such thing as an illegal immigrant" is an opinion- I accept that I will not be able to sway you on that point so I will not try.





The laws are keeping a lot of my friends in Mexico from visiting the US.  Basically the only friends of mine that are allowed to cross the border are A) In college or B) Rich. 

I have a lot of friends in Mexico, and it is sad that I can visit them and they can't visit me.

There are a lot of really good people in Mexico - Most of my friends are biologists or mycologists. 

We hunt mushrooms in some of the coolest habitats in Mexico.  Would be really nice if they could hunt with me in California.  But they would be turned away at the border without a visa.  Thats a bunch of BS right there.



It really is unfortunate, I agree.    But the current paradigm is not a coincidence.  It's impossible to tell the difference between people who really would stay up for a few days and go back vs. people who would choose to stay.  People who are, as you said, educated or well off financially, are less likely to be a drain on our society should they choose to stay.  They are also more likely to return to Mexico because they have a life set up there.

I also was careful not to specify nationality.  The issue of illegal immigration is a public safety one as well.  One filter we use in choosing who can come is checking criminal history


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Re: Top DHS checkpoint refusals. for the lulz [Re: NWlight]
    #19116942 - 11/10/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said: The issue of illegal immigration is a public safety one as well.  One filter we use in choosing who can come is checking criminal history





In Mexico the real criminals have no criminal history because they pay the cops.


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