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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: EmL]
#19126331 - 11/12/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I Can't stand smoking Marijuana either. That's why i extract it and take a nice glob of full melt to the face.
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: EmL]
#19126343 - 11/12/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You sound like me a lot of the time. You get high and wonder why you did? Couldnt you just have fun being sober? This happens to me because im somebody who was raised being told my parents constantly that theres always something to do to get better or improve on in life and that for me ruins it sometimes because ill just sit there and feel like a fuckin bum.
I have an addictive personality though so most of the time ill just smoke automatically and just try to not think about it and go along with my daily routine. I like the slight slight psychedelic effects it provides the most though and thats what keeps my addictive personality coming back...i love how unique the whole experience is and keeps my busy mind occupied much like adderall does for overactive kids.
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: EmL]
#19126593 - 11/12/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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nssurge said: weed kills motivation, fact
Bullshit over generalization, not fact. It may be true for some people. But it is not true for everyone.
Every single person I've met who regularly smokes weed ie once a week or more, has no motivation to do anything, and all there interested in is getting high and doing literally nothing. Maybe not true for everyone, but for everyone I know who smokes which is many it is
Are they people that would have motivation without the herb as well? I've seen that people that are generally lazy get lazy but people that actually are active and enjoy doing things continue doing so, even with daily use.
Funnily enough, I have never once said that weed kills motivation on this thread, because I don't believe that at all. I think that some people who have gone through this thread have had the impression that I think marijuana is bad, but that is not the case. I'm mostly saying that weed is wasted on morons, lazy assholes, cunts, posers, wannabe's, and the lot. It's not really much different, in my eyes, from alcohol, although I'm sure that will ruffle some people's feathers.
If you looks at the vast majority of people who start smoking weed or smoking anything, they don't start it because they're enhancing their life or because it's making them a better person. They do it because either other people are doing it, they have nothing better to do, want to have fun, or they want to experiment. That's pretty much it, and if you think you're different, you give yourself way to much credit. Then at some point, you start rationalizing that you're doing it for other reasons and that it's helping your life or that it conveys all these advantages to you in life and how it's a positive force. And to the people who say that maybe they just smoke for the fuck of it because they like, then why even bother if it's that insignificant or inconsequential? If you can do everything that normally do when you're high, then what's the point? And if everyone on this thread is the exception to what I'm saying, then I'm sorry, but I highly doubt that that's the case.
And again, seriously, I hope it becomes legal. I really hope so. I support it and I support everyone's right to use it or grow it or shove it up their ass or whatever. That's not what this is about. If you're surrounded by people who don't know that you smoke weed, then you're doing it right, and good for you.
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Every single person I've met who regularly smokes weed ie once a week or more, has no motivation to do anything, and all there interested in is getting high and doing literally nothing. Maybe not true for everyone, but for everyone I know who smokes which is many it is
Are they people that would have motivation without the herb as well? I've seen that people that are generally lazy get lazy but people that actually are active and enjoy doing things continue doing so, even with daily use.
Funnily enough, I have never once said that weed kills motivation on this thread, because I don't believe that at all. I think that some people who have gone through this thread have had the impression that I think marijuana is bad, but that is not the case. I'm mostly saying that weed is wasted on morons, lazy assholes, cunts, posers, wannabe's, and the lot. It's not really much different, in my eyes, from alcohol, although I'm sure that will ruffle some people's feathers.
If you looks at the vast majority of people who start smoking weed or smoking anything, they don't start it because they're enhancing their life or because it's making them a better person. They do it because either other people are doing it, they have nothing better to do, want to have fun, or they want to experiment. That's pretty much it, and if you think you're different, you give yourself way to much credit. Then at some point, you start rationalizing that you're doing it for other reasons and that it's helping your life or that it conveys all these advantages to you in life and how it's a positive force. And to the people who say that maybe they just smoke for the fuck of it because they like, then why even bother if it's that insignificant or inconsequential? If you can do everything that normally do when you're high, then what's the point? And if everyone on this thread is the exception to what I'm saying, then I'm sorry, but I highly doubt that that's the case.
And again, seriously, I hope it becomes legal. I really hope so. I support it and I support everyone's right to use it or grow it or shove it up their ass or whatever. That's not what this is about. If you're surrounded by people who don't know that you smoke weed, then you're doing it right, and good for you.
Yeah maybe your right that the ilegality of weed is what attracts lazy people and the like to it in the first place, but from my own evidence it has reducd many of
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: nssurge]
#19130390 - 11/13/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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pro weed peeps look pretty motivated to me. we over grew the drug war to a collapse.
over the decades, they spent more trying to defeat us, than almost anything else.
even after trashing the bill of rights, and massive prison building, they didnt slow the grow down.
the only other group i know of, that keeps coming over the walls while under fire, is the marines.
its pretty obvious, whos motivated. its the potsmokers.
faux news spin, just isnt plausable anymore.
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: nssurge]
#19130401 - 11/13/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bullshit over generalization, not fact. It may be true for some people. But it is not true for everyone.
Every single person I've met who regularly smokes weed ie once a week or more, has no motivation to do anything, and all there interested in is getting high and doing literally nothing. Maybe not true for everyone, but for everyone I know who smokes which is many it is
So what would you like us to be motivated by? Money? Material items? Sex? It's all just the hamsterwheel of society. I feel blessed that I'm able to step off it from time to time. I don't understand why people feel they have the right to judge what other people should be motivated by. If they are happy is all that matters. Sorry we don't live up to your standards of motivation.
I have the motivation to go to work full time, practice Aikido 4 times a week, and meditate ever single morning for 30 minutes. Most people who don't smoke weed don't have the motivation for these things.
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I agree...I think it is a age thing. I used to love getting high but there was a point at around 21 that I started realizing it really didn't do anything for me, especially since I smoked cigarettes on top of it. I had to stop doing it to maintain a good mindset. I still remember when it was good though. For me marijuana was more of a social thing than anything else. If I was by myself smoking a lot all the time I would make a lot of artwork but also would dwell on too much stuff. I am better without it, but that is just me. Some people love to stay high and I am cool with high people.
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: mindgnome]
#19130432 - 11/13/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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mindgnome said: I agree...I think it is a age thing. I used to love getting high but there was a point at around 21 that I started realizing it really didn't do anything for me, especially since I smoked cigarettes on top of it. I had to stop doing it to maintain a good mindset. I still remember when it was good though. For me marijuana was more of a social thing than anything else. If I was by myself smoking a lot all the time I would make a lot of artwork but also would dwell on too much stuff. I am better without it, but that is just me. Some people love to stay high and I am cool with high people.
and, were cool with you too. you seem most sensible on it all, and ,i respect your non smoking space.
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Bullshit over generalization, not fact. It may be true for some people. But it is not true for everyone.
Every single person I've met who regularly smokes weed ie once a week or more, has no motivation to do anything, and all there interested in is getting high and doing literally nothing. Maybe not true for everyone, but for everyone I know who smokes which is many it is
So what would you like us to be motivated by? Money? Material items? Sex? It's all just the hamsterwheel of society. I feel blessed that I'm able to step off it from time to time. I don't understand why people feel they have the right to judge what other people should be motivated by. If they are happy is all that matters. Sorry we don't live up to your standards of motivation.
I have the motivation to go to work full time, practice Aikido 4 times a week, and meditate ever single morning for 30 minutes. Most people who don't smoke weed don't have the motivation for these things.
No, nothing matieral or anything. They would become withdrawn and do nothing interesting, literally sit around for weeks and weeks, doing nothing to better there lives, no social interactions apart from to buy more weed, not going to any gatherings, getting bad grades, becoming incredibly boring to spend time with, generally wasting there time. As someone said earlier in the post weed makes doing nothing fun, so people dont do anything. If weed is ok for you and keeps you motivated then great but ive lost good friends from the negatives of there cannabis addiction
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: nssurge]
#19131092 - 11/13/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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lost good friends from the negatives of there cannabis addiction
and yet, " a friend with weed, is a friend indeed" or , " a friend with out pot, aint worth alot" or, "a friend without dabs, is a friend up for grabs."
and my favorite........... "peeps without herbals, are dumber than gerbils."
fact is, if ya dont wanna smke for whatever reason , fine. just dont make it out like evil lazy weed smokers are spoiling your day. just bust out and admit its not for you.
were not offended , all the more for us.
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yeah I honestly don't think people can be too high just from smoking (eating it is another story). I don't get why some people can't stand being around someone who just smoked a joint or whatever. I like people who are relaxed and not uptight about shit. I like stoners for the most part and even me being sober I still feel like that is my crowd. I can sit with a group of people smoking mad weed and feel completely comfortable not smoking. I like talking about music and philosophical stuff so it is easy for me to get along with stoners. I don't like how some people smoke weed just to look cool and tell you about how Bush was the best president. It is like wtf? It's whatever though because even those stoners will listen to your thoughts. I don't like being around people who get drunk and act like stoners are pussies because they are unenlightened and not interesting to me.
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anne halonium said: lost good friends from the negatives of there cannabis addiction
and yet, " a friend with weed, is a friend indeed" or , " a friend with out pot, aint worth alot" or, "a friend without dabs, is a friend up for grabs."
and my favorite........... "peeps without herbals, are dumber than gerbils."
fact is, if ya dont wanna smke for whatever reason , fine. just dont make it out like evil lazy weed smokers are spoiling your day. just bust out and admit its not for you.
were not offended , all the more for us.
Just stop acting like you're cool shit. Just drop it. I don't know if this is just how you present yourself on the internet, but it's not working. No it's not "all the more for you" and whoever else you're referring to, and all your stupid sayings about weed and friends are obnoxious. You might as well be a fat kid responding to someone who's denouncing McDonalds. How old are you? To be fair, it took me a little bit to figure this stuff out.
Just because you smoke or eat pot, that doesn't make you relaxed or easygoing or cool and insightful. It doesn't make you interesting either, and if you think they listen well that's because they're high. And you're not stepping off the hamsterwheel of life when you light up. You're not getting away from it all and ascending to a higher level of consciousness. You're just getting high. And to a degree, that's what you're doing with all of this stuff, like mushrooms or DMT or LSD or MDMA or Mescaline or what have you, and you have to be honest with yourself about what you're doing and why. If I eat some shrooms, I have no delusions that I might just be getting fucked up and going temporarily insane, but I'm honest with myself about that, and I rarely do it. Rarely. I don't do it like 4-5+ times a week, and I don't advertise that I do it, I don't waste a lot of money on it, I don't think it's fucking cool, and I don't pretend that I'm better than anyone else because I do it. I guarantee that 7/10 people, given the choice, would choose shrooms over marijuana if they knew what each one was really like, particularly shrooms at low doses. You could survey this forum. This is an important point, though, because it illustrates that smoking weed is cool and shrooms are not, and that weed is a bandwagon drug. People do it just because other people do it, and like most other things, that makes it suck. If you smoke, I guarantee that's why you started smoking. I guarantee it. Because it's around, and getting high can be so non-committal, like "hey I can drive just fine when I'm high yippee" and for the most part people can, so they have no qualms about it.
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This comment is entirely relative to you. It is definitely not the same for everyone. I have been able to achieve all of the above with marijuana. It's not for everyone, I suppose...
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anne halonium said: lost good friends from the negatives of there cannabis addiction
and yet, " a friend with weed, is a friend indeed" or , " a friend with out pot, aint worth alot" or, "a friend without dabs, is a friend up for grabs."
and my favorite........... "peeps without herbals, are dumber than gerbils."
fact is, if ya dont wanna smke for whatever reason , fine. just dont make it out like evil lazy weed smokers are spoiling your day. just bust out and admit its not for you.
were not offended , all the more for us.
Just stop acting like you're cool shit. Just drop it. I don't know if this is just how you present yourself on the internet, but it's not working. No it's not "all the more for you" and whoever else you're referring to, and all your stupid sayings about weed and friends are obnoxious. You might as well be a fat kid responding to someone who's denouncing McDonalds. How old are you? To be fair, it took me a little bit to figure this stuff out.
Just because you smoke or eat pot, that doesn't make you relaxed or easygoing or cool and insightful. It doesn't make you interesting either, and if you think they listen well that's because they're high. And you're not stepping off the hamsterwheel of life when you light up. You're not getting away from it all and ascending to a higher level of consciousness. You're just getting high. And to a degree, that's what you're doing with all of this stuff, like mushrooms or DMT or LSD or MDMA or Mescaline or what have you, and you have to be honest with yourself about what you're doing and why. If I eat some shrooms, I have no delusions that I might just be getting fucked up and going temporarily insane, but I'm honest with myself about that, and I rarely do it. Rarely. I don't do it like 4-5+ times a week, and I don't advertise that I do it, I don't waste a lot of money on it, I don't think it's fucking cool, and I don't pretend that I'm better than anyone else because I do it. I guarantee that 7/10 people, given the choice, would choose shrooms over marijuana if they knew what each one was really like, particularly shrooms at low doses. You could survey this forum. This is an important point, though, because it illustrates that smoking weed is cool and shrooms are not, and that weed is a bandwagon drug. People do it just because other people do it, and like most other things, that makes it suck. If you smoke, I guarantee that's why you started smoking. I guarantee it. Because it's around, and getting high can be so non-committal, like "hey I can drive just fine when I'm high yippee" and for the most part people can, so they have no qualms about it.
dude , really, im a stoned slut and im cool with it. i dont over think it. i think your crusading against your own demons here.
if ya dont wanna buzz up. fine. are you seeking a award or something? here?
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its a good drug combo with some other drugs but that is it. for me its not a lifestyle anymore, i feel like other drugs have less detrimental effects on what i am currently focusing on or how i live my lifestyle.
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: mr sniffles]
#19132594 - 11/13/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm 50. I'm a business owner and I support a family - wife of 25 years and two teenage boys, one going to college in the fall. I own a house and two cars and I play guitar in a professional band on the weekends. I've been consuming cannabis nearly constantly since I was 14. I get high in the morning, afternoon, dinner time, later in the evening and then at bed time. There is rarely a time when I'm not at least a little stoned. I enjoy my life, I love marijuana and I hope it stays that way for a long time. Is there something wrong with me?
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Op... too long didn't read. if you don't like weed you're lame.
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: Alexestalex]
#19132835 - 11/13/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here is my most recent experience: hadn't smoked MJ in many months, decided to smoke just once
smoked 2 joints of skunk/tobacco mix ate a big mac, 2 durums, 8 chocolate cakes, etc. (I normally eat very healthy/often fast..) couldn't get up next morning / all day next day didn't get done what I was supposed to next day, and affected next day again too many thoughts that weren't in my control, how fun is thinking if your thoughts are running out of control? if you think about everything, and then 10 variations of that everything too? or if you try to stop thinking, you can't, always at least a few thoughts left and even when you're talking to people next day you know, you cannot stop thinking about weird stuff? and it makes you sound weird...
my thoughts were affected for many days after stopping, weird thoughts/too many thoughts when talking to people my head felt weird for many days afterwards always laughing for several days afterwards at weird times, both when writing and talking to people my writing became weird and my talking/memory was affected for weeks
the door bell rang, I hide my joint, rushed to the door but noone there... stood there a while looking out... nobody there
my identity was affected to some degree for weeks, no sense of time for a few days, no sense of self, no sense of duties/things I wanted done, didn't call back the people who had called me etc. (as I was too high even next day to speak), no motivation for anything... not even cleaning the house
I always observe my thoughts, weed isn't my thing I like to be in control of my thoughts at all times, not have weird thoughts when I talk to people I know..
the soul is the holiest gift we have, and our body we should appreciate :-) what is more important than being yourself most of the time?
if smoking MJ I would only do it very rarely, if I didn't have anything to do next few/many days... and don't take too many puffs... 1-2 puffs and await maybe 10-20mins... stuff is strong today... 1-2 hits got me stoned before this, but smoked 2 joints of that
a buddhist I know says "it is better with smoke on the lungs than on the mind" might be true... the mind is most important if smoking everyday there should be very very careful moderation, which is very hard to control
most that smoke everyday can't control it.. they get stoned/almost stoned
it is only possible to be oneself without stress/drugs/pills body and mind feels best without any drug
smoking just 1 night in many months destroyed my short/long term memory for weeks/gave head pressure for weeks how can you do anything without a memory? I know memory would get back if I kept smoking... but that would be stupid.. :-)
weed usually gives me bad trips not as in fear... but due to I like to be in control of my own thoughts it sucks a lot to talk to people next day(s) and find out what is coming out of your mouth isn't what you ment to say and always paranoid/thinking people are talking about you... lasts many days/weeks
seems it sticks to the mind... unless you smoke more, then you don't notice
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: Universe]
#19132891 - 11/13/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Universe said: I'm 50. I'm a business owner and I support a family - wife of 25 years and two teenage boys, one going to college in the fall. I own a house and two cars and I play guitar in a professional band on the weekends. I've been consuming cannabis nearly constantly since I was 14. I get high in the morning, afternoon, dinner time, later in the evening and then at bed time. There is rarely a time when I'm not at least a little stoned. I enjoy my life, I love marijuana and I hope it stays that way for a long time. Is there something wrong with me?
Yeah you got married and had kids...and you get high all the time. I mean you don't have to listen to me, I'm just 22, and I give respect to my elders at all times. Over the internet, that may or may not be the case, but I do make an effort. But that doesn't make me unable to give advice, which would be to stop getting high, although of course you could flip that around and advise me to smoke all the time, but it doesn't really go both ways. There's not necessarily anything wrong with you, but you don't need to get high so often. At this point, I seriously doubt that it does anything for you other than being a habit. I mean seriously, that's the whole point of my rant, which is that there is no point, and no the placebo effect doesn't count. What you could you possibly derive from something that you do several times a day for years on end? You could have dropped it decades ago, and I sincerely believe that it would have had no effect on the trajectory of your life. I mean shit if it's just because you like the way it feels, well I like the way alcohol makes me feel ( as does almost everyone in the universe) but I don't drink every day, and if I did it would be because I had a substance abuse problem. And getting high doesn't equate very well to a cup of tea or coffee in the morning, so I don't want to hear that comparison. Did I cover all my bases?
Also, you don't have to talk yourself up as a successful, well-to-do person. The President of the United States used to be a pothead, so he pretty much trumps any pothead success stories you could ever boast. And that swimmer dude too.
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Re: I Can't Stand Marijuana. [Re: Universe]
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Universe said: I'm 50. I'm a business owner and I support a family - wife of 25 years and two teenage boys, one going to college in the fall. I own a house and two cars and I play guitar in a professional band on the weekends. I've been consuming cannabis nearly constantly since I was 14. I get high in the morning, afternoon, dinner time, later in the evening and then at bed time. There is rarely a time when I'm not at least a little stoned. I enjoy my life, I love marijuana and I hope it stays that way for a long time. Is there something wrong with me?
sounds normal enough for me. actually sounds like most of the peeps i know who burn.
it aint the pot. peeps can be winners or losers, with or without it.
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