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OfflinePatlal
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Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today?
    #19115873 - 11/10/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's a good question to ask yourself. There are many things we could think about

- Was it gun ownership?
- Was it a better economy?
- Was is better policy?
- More education?
- Higher paying jobs?

Nope, no, no, nope and... no


Well then, WTF? What happened?

Abortion happened.

In 1973 the US legalized abortion.

WTF does abortion have to do with anything?

It's simple really, back in the day, young, poor, uneducated, unskilled women were forced to have their babies if they got pregnant. Kids born from that kind of environment are a lot more likely to become criminals. So by making abortion legal, millions of children with a high risk of becoming criminals were not born. It just so happens that the mid 90s was the date where their criminal careers would be at the most high risk age.

Discuss

Also, +5 to whoever knows where I had this idea


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OfflineTsukasa
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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: Patlal]
    #19115918 - 11/10/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I believe that the cell phone doomed the ability to make a easy living with crime though it made selling drugs easier. It's 100 times quicker for some one to tell on your ass for any thing.


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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19115927 - 11/10/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Population control is something that all the world will have to take a good look at sooner or later.


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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: Tsukasa]
    #19115939 - 11/10/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Okay first off.... What they hell are you talking about? Crime rates are higher than ever.


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Offlinedontknow
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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: GodandLove]
    #19115949 - 11/10/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Correlational research is unreliable at best :rolleyes:

It's just some pro-abortion jargon


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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: dontknow]
    #19116031 - 11/10/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

wide-spread application of the "broken window theory" has done a LOT to stop crime.

also yes, abortion is a great way to stop crime.

unwanted babies fuck shit up.


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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: NWlight]
    #19116048 - 11/10/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Because now they are just throwing everyone in a prison. Less criminals out of jail means less crime. Our country is so fucked up.


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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: fortydubz] * 2
    #19116056 - 11/10/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

fortydubz said:
Because now they are just throwing everyone in a prison. Less criminals out of jail means less crime. Our country is so fucked up.



what is wrong with throwing criminals in prison to stop crime?

broken window theory at its finest


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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: NWlight]
    #19116059 - 11/10/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



wow, i really thought it twas the other way around as well.  Pretty interesting.


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OfflinePatlal
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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: dontknow]
    #19116061 - 11/10/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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dontknow said:
Correlational research is unreliable at best :rolleyes:

It's just some pro-abortion jargon




If it wasn't for correlation, most technologies, studies and research we do wouldn't exist.


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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19116135 - 11/10/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
Also, +5 to whoever knows where I had this idea




Freakonomics?

Abortion FTW.


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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19116171 - 11/10/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
Also, +5 to whoever knows where I had this idea



I believe this came from Freakonomics.

EDIT: Looks like I got beat :lol:


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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: GodandLove] * 1
    #19116245 - 11/10/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

GodandLove said:
Okay first off.... What they hell are you talking about? Crime rates are higher than ever.





Boom, the media just hoodwinked you. You got that impression from all the mass shootings this year and last, right?


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Offlinedontknow
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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: VersaLife]
    #19116274 - 11/10/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

VersaLife said:
Quote:

GodandLove said:
Okay first off.... What they hell are you talking about? Crime rates are higher than ever.





Boom, the media just hoodwinked you. You got that impression from all the mass shootings this year and last, right?



"WASHINGTON — Violent crime in the United States rose for the second year in a row, a government report said Thursday, indicating that the nation's two-decade decline in crime has ended.

The 2012 National Crime Victimization Survey by the Bureau of Justice Statistics found that 26 of every 1,000 people experienced violent crime, a 15% increase in how many people reported being victims of rape, robbery or assault. Property crime — burglary, theft and car theft — rose 12%.

"We've plateaued. At this point, I don't think we're going to see any more decreases in crime," said criminologist James Alan Fox of Northeastern University in Boston. "The challenge will be making sure crime rates don't go back up."

It seems like crime has been down, but it's going back up now.

source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/24/violent-crime-rising-in-united-states/3180309/


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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: NWlight] * 1
    #19116280 - 11/10/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

NWlight said:


also yes, abortion is a great way to stop crime.

unwanted babies fuck shit up.




Freakonomics goes into this quite a bit. Its just a correlation, but a strong one at that.

Here is a video.


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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: nicechrisman] * 1
    #19116303 - 11/10/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think this is all just because of abortion, although it probably is a big part of it.
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nicechrisman said:
Population control is something that all the world will have to take a good look at sooner or later.



I'm not against population control, but I think the population is gonna top out relatively soon, then start decreasing.


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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: VersaLife]
    #19116308 - 11/10/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

has been failing ever since the crack epidemics of the 80s-90s


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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19116314 - 11/10/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

murder is down to 1960's levels


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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: ChinChiller]
    #19116317 - 11/10/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No hood winking involved... I've traveled the world (Been to ever 20 different countries).... I've been alive since the 70s.. I know what I'm talking about... Crime has risen immensely... If anyone has been 'hoodwinked' here... It's whoever buys into that 'Bureau of Justice statistics' bullshit. LOL


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Re: Why did crime in the US suddenly started to drop in the mid 90s up to today? [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19116318 - 11/10/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

mjmihalov said:
I don't think this is all just because of abortion, although it probably is a big part of it.
Quote:




nicechrisman said:
Population control is something that all the world will have to take a good look at sooner or later.



I'm not against population control, but I think the population is gonna top out relatively soon, then start decreasing.



Yeah, but I'm not a big fan of things like famine, war, and plagues. I'd rather people just have less children.


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