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Mr.PhilCybin
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Fascination with death
#19114261 - 11/10/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sometimes I sit and think about how/when I'll die, and a big part of me looks forward to it.
Other times I'll think about how as much as I value the beauty and gift of life, I'm also tired of playing the game. I feel like I've been here long enough. Too long.
However, at the same time I understand if that was true, I would've mastered the game, and I would have no problems waiting it out until the day that freedom comes. I guess I just feel more comfortable on the other side when I've visited through meditation or OBE's. I could never commit suicide, out of pride, stubbornness, and my beliefs on what happens to your soul, but I think about it pretty often.
The strangest part of all this is that I'm not sad, I'm not depressed, I'm not angry.
I just long to be on the other side of the curtain.
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Space Elf



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Mr.PhilCybin said: I just long to be on the other side of the curtain.

I know what you mean, but sometimes it helps to think of this life as the other side; the one that you once longed for in the past chapter. Sorry, I'm just spewing hippie non-sense, hehe.
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Mr.PhilCybin
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Re: Fascination with death [Re: Space Elf]
#19114396 - 11/10/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You know that's actually a good point. I've thought about that too and debated whether we keep the "grass is always greener" mind state when we transition. Is it a human thing? Or is it at the core of our existence?
I'd like to believe that when you're on those upper planes, we're able to see through the illusion of wants, but really, I don't know.
I can only remember small fragments when I come back.
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Space Elf



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Mr.PhilCybin said: I'd like to believe that when you're on those upper planes, we're able to see through the illusion of wants, but really, I don't know.
I tend to believe the same thing. Nirvana would be absolute fulfillment and contentment, and I believe Nirvana actually exists. I think one's mindset has everything to do with it though. Some people could find happiness in the lower planes of existence, while others could potentially feel discontentment in the higher planes. Attitude is key.
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Re: Fascination with death [Re: Space Elf]
#19115906 - 11/10/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The way this forum is set up.. Makes it hard to read and answer posts... I don't like it.
Hmmmm.
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TheFakeSunRa
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Mr Mojo Risin was wrong. There is no other side to break on to.
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Mr.PhilCybin
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How so?
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nicechrisman
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I think it's healthy to ponder such things. I think overcoming the fear of death is one of the more liberating things a person can do. It's one of our biggest attachments- the attachment to life.
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There is no soul or supernatural side to it. And there's nothing to master. You don't go anywhere when you die.
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nicechrisman said: I think it's healthy to ponder such things. I think overcoming the fear of death is one of the more liberating things a person can do. It's one of our biggest attachments- the attachment to life.
It's all gonna end up the same whether you're attached or not.
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How do you know?
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The same way I know there's no Tooth Fairy. And I fucking love dental shit. Don't get me started.
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Envix
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it's a lifetime quest, coming to accept death. the human brain can't understand it, it can't comprehend it, all it can do is accept the inevitable. coming to terms with death is extremely liberating and peaceful. it's very hard for the brain to digest (process) something like death, because it means the end of its very existence. however, it is not hard to accept. all you have to do is make the choice to accept it. and then you will be free.
if u really want to get up close and personal w/ death, here's what you do. you go find a dying person (at the hospital, or wherever), and you meet them, greet them, comfort them, and be sure to be there at the moment of their death.
make it a new hobby. this is what Roshi Joan Halifax does. just go sit with dying people and comfort them in their moment of passing.
if you really want to know death, if you really want to get comfortable with accepting death, this is about the closest you can get
or ayahuasca
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Re: Fascination with death [Re: Envix]
#19116293 - 11/10/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Or you could just realize that the world is layered with 3.6 billion years worth of death and every living thing on this planet will be dead in a trillionth of that time. You don't need to try to face death. It's screaming at you constantly non-stop every second from the moment you're conceived.
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Envix
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yes, but usually it's screaming at you from a distance. over the tv, over the computer, etc.
if you want to get up close and personal, then you sit face-to-face with a person while they're about to make the transition
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TheFakeSunRa said: There is no soul or supernatural side to it. And there's nothing to master. You don't go anywhere when you die.
But it is only natural for there to be "the other side" right? It makes sense that things are in balance, and the opposite side of something isn't nothing. There are plenty of unexplored metaphysical areas. Your statements are just as unproven as the idea of a soul.
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Re: Fascination with death [Re: Envix]
#19116325 - 11/10/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Envix said: yes, but usually it's screaming at you from a distance. over the tv, over the computer, etc.
if you want to get up close and personal, then you sit face-to-face with a person while they're about to make the transition
Living is simply put the process of dying. It's as up close and personal as the vein in your neck.
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a lot of people walk through life ignoring death. i know i'm guilty of that. even though it's so there and real, humans have devised very particular ways to avoid thinking about it
it's because we don't have to deal with it in reality. we distract ourselves. we shelter ourselves. we hide death. it's not out in the open in modern society, we try to keep it as far away from the public eye as possible. the only way most people can see a dead person really is by visiting a mortuary or a funeral.
sure it's there, and it's real, and it's obvious. but how often do we witness it? how often do we really come face to face with it?
there was a thread a while back of someone freaking out after witnessing a woman bicyclist get pancaked by a 40 ft truck. you should check it out. it says a lot about how neurotic and agitated people get over the idea.
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TheFakeSunRa said: There is no soul or supernatural side to it. And there's nothing to master. You don't go anywhere when you die.
But it is only natural for there to be "the other side" right? It makes sense that things are in balance, and the opposite side of something isn't nothing. There are plenty of unexplored metaphysical areas. Your statements are just as unproven as the idea of a soul.
So as soon as the simplest life form came from just being atoms to being atoms that replicated themselves in a certain organized pattern some kind of ghost entered into them? Or did it happen when our ancestors were stromatolitic bacteria? I don't need proof that something ridiculous doesn't exist.
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Re: Fascination with death [Re: Envix]
#19116448 - 11/10/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Envix said: a lot of people walk through life ignoring death. i know i'm guilty of that. even though it's so there and real, humans have devised very particular ways to avoid thinking about it
it's because we don't have to deal with it in reality. we distract ourselves. we shelter ourselves. we hide death. it's not out in the open in modern society, we try to keep it as far away from the public eye as possible. the only way most people can see a dead person really is by visiting a mortuary or a funeral.
sure it's there, and it's real, and it's obvious. but how often do we witness it? how often do we really come face to face with it?
there was a thread a while back of someone freaking out after witnessing a woman biker get pancaked by a 40 ft truck. you should check it out. it says a lot about how neurotic and agitated people get over the idea.
Yeah. I get you.
I highly recommend the book Denial of Death. It really deals with all this shit. It changed my outlook completely just by spelling out shit that everyone already knows. It's about as good as non-fiction gets. I don't even know why I started up arguing in this thread now. In my own case I see death in everything because death is in everything. Everyday I think about whether I'll die first or my wife. When will my dogs die. I think about the books that I won't have time to read. How it's amazing that anybody gets anything done at all with life being so fucking short.
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