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Offlinepsyconaught
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When is it okay to fight back against cops? (Enil, comments?)
    #19114387 - 11/10/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There are countless stories about cops beating people (sometimes to death), handcuffing people and tazing/shooting them when they are incapacitated, forcibly drawing blood, etc. At what point is it okay to intervene by defending yourself or intervening in something taking place with another individual? I'm looking for both moral and legal answers.


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Re: When is it okay to fight back against cops? (Enil, comments?) [Re: psyconaught]
    #19114434 - 11/10/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

When they're blatantly framing you "I'm gonna "find" 0.1g of H in your pocket and there's nothing you can do about it" *whips out baton*


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Re: When is it okay to fight back against cops? (Enil, comments?) [Re: Synthe]
    #19115535 - 11/10/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

When you can sue their monkey asses in court. 
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3209305.shtml?cat=500#.UoAKQBCP-_I

This guy is going to get millions


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Re: When is it okay to fight back against cops? (Enil, comments?) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19115598 - 11/10/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i saw that. That guy got fucked (almost literally and figuratively). I was talking more about physically defending yourself or others. If some guy is getting is skull bashed in by a cop do you just sit there or intervene? There was a story recently where a drunk off duty cop got pissed at a girl who rejected his advances so he handcuffed her and tried kidnapping her. Would it have been appropriate for the patrons of the bar to step in?


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Re: When is it okay to fight back against cops? (Enil, comments?) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19115621 - 11/10/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Wow that's fucked.


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Re: When is it okay to fight back against cops? (Enil, comments?) [Re: psyconaught] * 1
    #19115647 - 11/10/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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psyconaught said:
i saw that. That guy got fucked (almost literally and figuratively). I was talking more about physically defending yourself or others. If some guy is getting is skull bashed in by a cop do you just sit there or intervene? There was a story recently where a drunk off duty cop got pissed at a girl who rejected his advances so he handcuffed her and tried kidnapping her. Would it have been appropriate for the patrons of the bar to step in?




Yeah.  Call 911 and follow him.  Film it as much as you can.


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Re: When is it okay to fight back against cops? (Enil, comments?) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19115695 - 11/10/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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psyconaught said:
i saw that. That guy got fucked (almost literally and figuratively). I was talking more about physically defending yourself or others. If some guy is getting is skull bashed in by a cop do you just sit there or intervene? There was a story recently where a drunk off duty cop got pissed at a girl who rejected his advances so he handcuffed her and tried kidnapping her. Would it have been appropriate for the patrons of the bar to step in?




Yeah.  Call 911 and follow him.  Film it as much as you can.



Absolutely yes. As loyal American citizens we have a natural duty to report crimes - at least, that's what society says. If that's the case, then crimes committed by law enforcers should be no exception.


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Re: When is it okay to fight back against cops? (Enil, comments?) [Re: Synthe] * 1
    #19115742 - 11/10/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You have to let the other cops deal with the crazy cops because otherwise you are going to get arrested or shot yourself.  It is what it is.


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Re: When is it okay to fight back against cops? (Enil, comments?) [Re: psyconaught]
    #19116054 - 11/10/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You have the right to defend yourself against police if you are in reasonable fear of imminent bodily harm. 

Unfortunately, the problem isn't your rights...the problem is your credibility when it is your word against the police.  The other problem is that you can be certain that the cop is armed with a deadly weapon and might use it.  You can be right, but you don't want to be dead right.

I hate to say it, but the best course of action is probably to just play dead and take the beating.  Hopefully, they won't do permanent damage, and you can get a nice payday in civil court.  On the street with multiple armed cops is not the time for you to be standing your ground in a physical altercation.


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Re: When is it okay to fight back against cops? (Enil, comments?) [Re: Enlil]
    #19119467 - 11/11/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Hopefully, they won't do permanent damage, and you can get a nice payday in civil court.  On the street with multiple armed cops is not the time for you to be standing your ground in a physical altercation.




Fucked as it is....








i also hate the paid leave these assholes get while they're being investigated


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Re: When is it okay to fight back against cops? (Enil, comments?) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19119475 - 11/11/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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This guy is going to get millions



That dude deserves billions.  So fucked up.


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Re: When is it okay to fight back against cops? (Enil, comments?) [Re: memes]
    #19119564 - 11/11/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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i also hate the paid leave these assholes get while they're being investigated



You think they should lose pay every time someone makes up a story about them?  That's the alternative.


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