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Synthe
Gatorade me, bitch!



Registered: 11/10/12
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fortydubz said: I like this poll. Its good to know there are other like minded people that think the same.
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Enlil said: What other kind of like-minded people would there be?
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zappaisgod said: The social welfare bums think they have a right to my money. That is a legit question regarding property rights and you more than anyone else are the exemplar of that.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Let me clarify it for you
The social welfare bums think they have a right to take my property for their own uses
Why do you make it out as if they think you personally owe them? I would assume the mentality is more "well, the government will give me free money, so why not take it?" not "OH ZAPPAS MONIES IS MINE NOW!"
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Mush4Brains
LOOL HACKED!!!

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Re: Rights [Re: Synthe]
#19116248 - 11/10/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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He views taxation as theft. There is no arguing with him on this point.
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Enlil
OTD God-King




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Property rights and rights humans have to own property..not rights the property has.
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Simplicitry
Just another mushroom lover



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psyconaught said: please clarify. Are you asking how it should be or how it currently is?
That's what I thought. I answered the way I thought it should be even though that has no basis in reality
Just like a lot of the things you say.
I was simply stating that I don't think every human's full rights are honored by our current government (to clarify for the Obama bots in the room I don't just mean the current Administration either) but you got your chance to be clever, so good for you
Ridicule if that's how you deal with being wrong all the time but do you agree? Or do you believe people's rights are perfectly respected and protected by our government?
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Mush4Brains
LOOL HACKED!!!

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Re: Rights [Re: Enlil]
#19116320 - 11/10/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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How is saying that many of the things you say have no basis in reality ridicule you?
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zappaisgod
horrid asshole


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Mush4Brains said: No, I meant the second part. You didn't clarify shit.
Oh you mean about whether you are or not a social welfare................... advocate?
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zappaisgod
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Re: Rights [Re: Synthe]
#19116379 - 11/10/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Synthe said:
Why do you make it out as if they think you personally owe them? I would assume the mentality is more "well, the government will give me free money, so why not take it?" not "OH ZAPPAS MONIES IS MINE NOW!"

Because I'm the one paying the bill
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Simplicitry
Just another mushroom lover



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Mush4Brains said: How is saying that many of the things you say have no basis in reality ridicule you?
I won't lose any sleep over that. Avoiding the question?
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Mush4Brains
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Mush4Brains said: No, I meant the second part. You didn't clarify shit.
Oh you mean about whether you are or not a social welfare................... advocate?
Are you sure that is what you meant?
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Why do you make it out as if they think you personally owe them? I would assume the mentality is more "well, the government will give me free money, so why not take it?" not "OH ZAPPAS MONIES IS MINE NOW!"

Because I'm the one paying the bill
YOU PAY THE ENTIRE BILL?
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zappaisgod
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Mush4Brains said: No, I meant the second part. You didn't clarify shit.
Oh you mean about whether you are or not a social welfare................... advocate?
Are you sure that is what you meant?
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Why do you make it out as if they think you personally owe them? I would assume the mentality is more "well, the government will give me free money, so why not take it?" not "OH ZAPPAS MONIES IS MINE NOW!"

Because I'm the one paying the bill
YOU PAY THE ENTIRE BILL?
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setb
10th level beer nerd

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Mush4Brains said: He views taxation as theft. There is no arguing with him on this point.
Taxation is theft, legalized theft but theft all the same. I wish they would do away with automatic withholding and forced people to write checks at the end of the year, that way people would realize how much money the State is stealing from them.
Of course, they won't do that, withholding was put in place for precisely that reason. You don't miss the money if you never really see it.
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Enlil
OTD God-King




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Re: Rights [Re: setb]
#19119090 - 11/11/13 05:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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setb said: Taxation is theft, legalized theft but theft all the same.
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Of course, they won't do that, withholding was put in place for precisely that reason. You don't miss the money if you never really see it.
If there wasn't withholding, far fewer people would pay voluntarily, and the IRS would have to be larger than it already is to enforce the tax code.
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myc_check1212
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Our rights are guaranteed by the second amendment, it is the people that give the constitution and rights authori-tay. The government only exists because the people permit it to.
its like baseball. You can bring people together and play. You need rules of course (constitution), maybe ground rules when decided upon (amendments). You certainly don't need an MLB or an NCAA to have a good game. You might if you want a deeper league so to speak.
government has its place but it seems like its overstepping its bounds, and it looks like it's going to get worse before it gets better.
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