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too much moisture in rye jars?
    #19114240 - 11/10/13 10:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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So this is my first (Real) grow. My first was a homestead kit. It worked out really well and I learned a lot. I would definitely recommend it to any first timer. Anyways I ordered my spores from sponsor (golden teachers). I mentioned shroomery and they sent me a free syringe (pf classic). There were way less spores in this one but hey I'm not complaining it was free!

I decided I'd start out with the pf classics (free!) as a trial run to see if I could not Fuck anything up!

I followed the tek rye bitches RYE!!!!!! (almost)

I started soaking before I was actually ready then I had to leave town a day and my jars ended up soaking like 52 hours. When they wrer done they smelled kinda like rotten milk. I rinsed the shit out of em and simmered 45min then into the pc 1 .hr at 15psi.

I didn't have any tyvek I decided to use poly fill. I inoculated 2 holes in each jar in my homemade glove box then put the foil back on. One hole I pushed the poly fill thru. I covered it with a bandaid I had handy.

Well my jars have been incubating at 82 for 2 weeks now and there are just a few tiny little spots of myc in them. There is a bunch of what looks like myc but I shook 2 of them and found it was mostly moisture spots where the rye is touching the glass. After a week the shaken and not shaken jars look pretty much the same.

On further inspection there is a little bit of standing water in the bottom of them in the deepened circle.

I pretty much know I got too much moisture in them so my questions are.

1. What did I do wrong and how to fix it next time.

2. Is there any saving these poor little guys? Take my foil off and pray they don't get contam?

Sorry for shitty phone pics





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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: spinalmushroom]
    #19114274 - 11/10/13 10:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You're suffocating them for one thing, who told you to leave the foil on? If they're too wet they should still grow, but it'll just be slower, however keep an eye our for bacteria too.


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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: krypto2000]
    #19114688 - 11/10/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've read on several forums that you don't want gas exchange until about 60% colonized so I put the foil back over the top is this wrong?


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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: spinalmushroom]
    #19115179 - 11/10/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone?


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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: spinalmushroom]
    #19115236 - 11/10/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Foil only serves one purpose, it keeps the the filter dry from the condensation raining down inside the PC. Leave the foil off for the entire colonization.

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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19115693 - 11/10/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Foil only serves one purpose, it keeps the the filter dry from the condensation raining down inside the PC. Leave the foil off for the entire colonization.

Check out how I do rye in my signature.




Ok I'll take the foil off then. Do you think they are still ok?

I don't see your sig


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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: spinalmushroom]
    #19115753 - 11/10/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't count on them turning out well.

Here's How I Do Rye Berries In Jars


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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19116235 - 11/10/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I wouldn't count on them turning out well.

Here's How I Do Rye Berries In Jars




never checked your teks out before i went through them very easy to follow nice pictorial and looks easy enough for a newb to follow and i dont think you missed anything.

and there is videos!

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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: twistedty]
    #19116270 - 11/10/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you. I really appreciate that.


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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19116281 - 11/10/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I wouldn't count on them turning out well.

Here's How I Do Rye Berries In Jars




Ok so after you inoculate your jars you don't put anything over the holes you put in the tyvek with your needle? Seems like that could let in contams right?


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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: spinalmushroom]
    #19116313 - 11/10/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

SpitballJedi said:
I wouldn't count on them turning out well.

Here's How I Do Rye Berries In Jars




Ok so after you inoculate your jars you don't put anything over the holes you put in the tyvek with your needle? Seems like that could let in contams right?




he uses sfds which you should invest in as many as needed after your first grow. those jars are for g2gs or agar wedges, but if you would use MS syringe on a lid this style you would just unscrew the lid and innoc in a SAB.

otherwise use the search engine on how make ports to innoc threw for grain jars, easiest would be a single hole with polyfil that allows for GE and you can innoc threw it as well


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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: twistedty]
    #19116342 - 11/10/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: twistedty]
    #19116424 - 11/10/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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twistedty said:
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spinalmushroom said:
Quote:

SpitballJedi said:
I wouldn't count on them turning out well.

Here's How I Do Rye Berries In Jars




Ok so after you inoculate your jars you don't put anything over the holes you put in the tyvek with your needle? Seems like that could let in contams right?




he uses sfds which you should invest in as many as needed after your first grow. those jars are for g2gs or agar wedges, but if you would use MS syringe on a lid this style you would just unscrew the lid and innoc in a SAB.

otherwise use the search engine on how make ports to innoc threw for grain jars, easiest would be a single hole with polyfil that allows for GE and you can innoc threw it as well




I thought sfds were made out of tyvek is it different?

Polyfil is what I'm using now but i have 2 holes. Not exactly sure why just followed the tek on that one.

So you use the polyfil hole with the sfd over the top of it?


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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: spinalmushroom]
    #19116433 - 11/10/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I thought sfds were made out of tyvek is it different?



Completely different.

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So you use the polyfil hole with the sfd over the top of it?



No.

No need for polyfill, just the SFD as the filter.

   


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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: PussyFart]
    #19116530 - 11/10/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just had a facepalm moment haha I get it now thanks for the advice guys!


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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: spinalmushroom]
    #19116580 - 11/10/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

... and you can make a SHIP if you don't want to have to open your jars.


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Re: too much moisture in rye jars? [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19117186 - 11/10/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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... and you can make a SHIP if you don't want to have to open your jars.




Yeah I'm gonna modify my lids with a ship on one hole and the sfd on the other. Again thanks for the advice. I'd thumbs up you guys but apparently I'm still too much of a newb


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