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Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing * 1
    #19113533 - 11/10/13 07:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

OK so i fully expect 3D printing to follow its PC-predecesor's footprints and go from:
-Theory, to
-Prototype, to
-Industry acceptance, and finally...
-Public acceptance and incorporation into the household




Now.  I don't know how this marketplace will look by the time proliferation comes around, and the technology is still in its infancy so I don't want to invest in any individual 3D-printer manufacturer (yet), but I have had the thought of keeping an eye out for the industry-leading SUPPLIERS of 3D printer input material, and investing instead "upstream".

A lot of the profit potential will reveal itself as the market forms itself (standardization.  Can Company ABC make input materials for both Sony AND Samsung?  Or are their 3D printers so different that an entire retooling of the production line would be necessary), but it's something I'm interested in (a) saving up for and (b) timing right.








Anyone ever thought about this?  Getting in during infancy?  Or, perhaps, investing upstream from a pending boom?


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Re: Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing [Re: memes]
    #19113966 - 11/10/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19148659 - 11/17/13 07:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I can't wait to have a 3d printer!


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Re: Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing [Re: lwheidt]
    #19181251 - 11/24/13 01:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

all sounds good

the getting in during infancy and investing upstream
I have no experience in investing but in my opinion if you can find something that you know will be awesome and get in while it's cheap do that over investing upstream

like google or apple before they went up a million gajillion percent

I've been wanting to get in on something myself.....
so the trick would be predicting what the next big thing will be....

how about we brainstorm on that matter

hydrogen cars/fuel cells may start taking off soon


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Re: Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #19186195 - 11/25/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Man, 3D printing. It has so much potential. It circumvents the manfacturing process completely.

Soon companies will make money buy selling you the 3D printing info of their product so you can make it at home. Although I do foresee a big problem that might prevent 3D printing to become a popular household product. It's pirating!

If someone buys the plan for an item and decides to post it online where everyone gets it for free, how is the company suppose to prosper? Even if they put failsafes and codes in product keys and whatnot, there's always somebody that will manage to figure it out.

Lots of potential. Lots of problems too.

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Re: Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing [Re: Patlal]
    #19188318 - 11/25/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i imagine a type of file will be created that doesn't show the raw schematics. Similar to how if you download an app to your iPhone/ipad its not exactly easy to view the code unless you have a lot of technical knowledge.


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Re: Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing [Re: psyconaught]
    #19188386 - 11/25/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've been researching a lot about 3D printers lately too.

There really is a lot of potential.

This is a video of students from Budapest University printing a mold for a Plastic Injection Molding Machine from a 3D printer. Molds are expensive as hell too, so this saves a fortune on production costs.

It really gives people the ability to transfer creative thought and design into the physical environment.





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Re: Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing [Re: memes]
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Re: Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing [Re: memes]
    #19203169 - 11/28/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

3D Systems Corporation (Ticker: DDD) is leading the pack.  Profitable and well positioned in an emerging sector, but already richly valued with a Price to Earnings Growth ratio of ~6 (to reference, a PEG > 2 is generally considered expensive).  The stock went from little over $1 in 2008 to $80+ earlier this month.  The train is leaving the station, but there is a fundamental reason for it, and that train may have a nice ride yet ahead of it.


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Re: Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing [Re: Big Worm]
    #19209003 - 11/30/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Looks like any ordinary CNC method... How is this a revolution/innovating?


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Re: Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing [Re: Beanhead]
    #20699529 - 10/13/14 10:06 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

im thinking about investing the bulk of my Roth in 3D (I only have $5500 in there).

Am thinking a 3 way split between 3d systems, ssys, and onvo. Has anyone been following 3d stocks? There was a serious drop for some bigger companies over 2014. I would be in it for the long haul anyways, so my interest is where they will be 10-15 years from now.


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Re: Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing [Re: ManianFH]
    #20699808 - 10/13/14 11:11 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

my grandma had invested pretty heavily in 3d systems some years ago but got out when it started to fall. She still came out ahead though. My opinion is that the 3d printing market is going to get huge, if you spread your risk and stay in for the long haul i think its a smart investment.


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Re: Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing [Re: psyconaught]
    #20700589 - 10/14/14 07:40 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

What's to stop big technology corps from squashing these little guys as soon as the technology moves from niche to mainstream?  If I were big business I would let these little guys innovate and develop the technology, but when the market is ready use my financial and marketing leverage to dominate.


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Re: Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing [Re: Mojo]
    #20700933 - 10/14/14 10:02 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

the big guys have a tough time being limber and agile in the market place, smaller firms can move a lot quicker than big companies. If a smaller company starts to get traction its more likely that a larger established tech company (google, apple, etc) will simply buy them out instead of competing directly.


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Re: Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing [Re: Mojo]
    #20702117 - 10/14/14 02:37 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Mojo said:
What's to stop big technology corps from squashing these little guys as soon as the technology moves from niche to mainstream?  If I were big business I would let these little guys innovate and develop the technology, but when the market is ready use my financial and marketing leverage to dominate.




thats what happens.  the little guys get bought.  everyone gets paid


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Re: Getting in on a wave when it's still placid: 3D Printing [Re: memes]
    #20707851 - 10/15/14 07:02 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

They have 3d printers in all materials now even metal. You have to heat the item to a very high temp after you print it because it has to fuse. Sort of like making ceramics, you mold it cold and then fire it. Speaking of firing, they are making guns with it too. Plastic guns have been around for a while and should be easier to make and now the parts that really should be metal can be printed like the barrel, firing pin and spring.

This could revolutionize everything, making patents almost obsolete. Even if they refuse to give out the plans for it, people can buy an item, take it apart and scan it. Sort of like what a copier does. At first it will be with simpler things and later with more complex items. One of the funnier offshoots is food printing. You can make a cake or frost it with a fancy design using off the shelf food printers. They also work with chocolate and other substances.

It might get down to the fact that a factory can make it cheaper using robot labor and computerization on a mass scale than you can make it at home. Plus the factory job may be higher quality. Do you want your brakes to be home made or factory made? But it would be cool to be able to make little statues of yourself or other individual items. I saw where they were selling them, at a high price too.

The next step will be chemical printing, which as already been done to some degree. They have devices that can manufacture chemicals. You put the starter materials in, the reagents and so on, it mixes, heats, even distills and separates. Its still kind of crude but someday you will be able to whip up all sorts of goodies. Then there is genetic engineering to make bacteria produce complex chemicals like insulin, thc, morphine and so on. But that is getting a bit off topic. Or is it?


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