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    #19113520 - 11/10/13 07:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well i checked my email finally today, turns out i had a drug test to take on the first and had a grace period of till the 4th, at 1pm to get it done by... its the 10th today, the day each month i have to report to the telephone reporting system. the telephone call last time and this time didn't give me a date to come in for a drug test. it never told me to. i was told that i would have been given the instructions to do so OVER THE PHONE. shit is confusing as hell too

i am pretrial diversion, and the "urgent" email i got today was that i had to do all this shit, and that if i didnt my enrollment in the program would be revoked and i have to go back to court.

im not doing to well, i dont know what to do. its sunday, and my lawyer isnt in, and apparently neither is my pTD officer...




things just keep getting shittier and shittier. :suicide:
if this all goes down, i no longer have a car, because insurance will be far to high for me to be able to pay.


WHO THE FUCK SENDS "URGENT" FUCKING EMAILS. mother FUCK she had my telephone number, why not have someone call me?!

in before "well you're an idiot, and you're incompetent, and you should have checked your email."


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: 404] * 2
    #19113532 - 11/10/13 07:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19113537 - 11/10/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i did, called three times and left a message the first time. going to try again on monday i guess?


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: 404]
    #19113541 - 11/10/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you've called everyone you can and nobody is in then all you can is wait. Just enjoy the rest of today :shrug:


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19113565 - 11/10/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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call your PO



:whathesaid:  The longer you put this off, the worse the consequence will be. Is your urine dirty right now?


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: Magicman69]
    #19113575 - 11/10/13 07:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: Magicman69]
    #19113578 - 11/10/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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call your PO


Is your urine dirty right now?



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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #19113605 - 11/10/13 07:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My guess is your PO doesn't work Sunday. If she/he is cool you can probably just explain yourself and they might forgive you. It sounds like you were ready to take a urine sample. Hopefully you didn't smoke or anything before you saw the email. Best of luck.


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: 404]
    #19113652 - 11/10/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Call your PO tomorrow morning.  Explain the situation and hope for the best.
I wish I had better advice, but as far as I've seen shit like this happens all the time, to the point that I'm not sure whether it's more naive to think that these sorts of snares are purposefully set or that they aren't.

Either way, best of luck to you dude.  I hate to hear this kinda thing happening to people I care about.  As always: this, too, shall pass.


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: 404]
    #19113705 - 11/10/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

drug charges, non-violent crime, possession i assume?

if you're on PTI that means it's your first offense, you're fine dude.

they don't want to send addicts to jail, you're "allowed" to fail three drug tests where i'm at (unless it's drug court)

for real, just call her tomorrow, show up with some money, and bullshit your way through it, go home, and get high.

you won't get locked up if that's what you're worried about.

oh, and skip the "you fucked me by not doing your job right routine". that shit never works. all you can do is call dude, if you don't, THEN you're fucked.


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: stzacrack]
    #19113875 - 11/10/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

dui, non violent arrest, my urine is clean (i dont smoke weed anymore because of my situation, and i dont really dabble with other things that they test for), i dont think my ptd officer works sundays. so i am shit out of luck till monday, and hopefully not down and out after that.


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: 404] * 1
    #19113915 - 11/10/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

just explain yourself and be truly sorry about it. Say you would rather have a phone call than a email because you don't check your email often.


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: mindgnome] * 1
    #19114183 - 11/10/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

unfortunately this is the nonsense you have to go through when you're in the system. they DON'T care about you. they DON'T care about your success. you are inhuman to them and you must bend to their will and whims, however unfair, unjust and unreasonable those may be.

that being said, don't freak out. there's nothing you can do today. take care of it as soon as humanly possible, just be honest, calm, and kiss their ass if you can find a way to do so. I think you're going to be fine.

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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: yogabunny]
    #19114201 - 11/10/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's just 1 test, and it's even pre trial probation. I'm sure you will be fine, I recently missed 2 tests because I was supposed to be done with randoms but I guess I was wrong.

I saw my PO and basically what she said was if I miss 1 more then I get a probation violation, and got a stricter random testing schedule.

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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: 404]
    #19119306 - 11/11/13 07:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

this lady won't answer the phone or my email.... the corrections department must be run by chimpanzees. i have never dealt with a more frustrating organization.


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: yogabunny]
    #19119372 - 11/11/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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they DON'T care about you. they DON'T care about your success. you are inhuman to them and you must bend to their will and whims,



You must have a crystal ball or something for you to know this.

My experience with probation officers is that they generally DO care and DO want their probationers to succeed...

Of course, you're psychic, so you know that his specific probation officer doesn't care about him...


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: Enlil]
    #19119453 - 11/11/13 08:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I just realized i'm fucked till tomorrow, because today is veteran's day.

Enlil, they don't care about me. I am one of thousands attending a program at this facility, and really just another 'fuck up' to them. theve lost filed documents, and all sorts of shenanegans.

my officer notified me regarding a serious matter saying their records showed that i was supposed to take a drug test (when the reporting system never gave me instructions to do so) and did it .... via EMAIL.. not my phone.


it's complete nonsense. if she really wanted me to succeed and not kick me from the program, she would have notified me via a more reasonable method, like a phone call and a voicemail. considering that she didnt possibly because she has so many other people to deal with simply proves my point... that im just another screw up to them.


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: 404]
    #19119458 - 11/11/13 08:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If they didn't care, they wouldn't have notified you at all.  They'd just let it slide and pass you through the system.


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: Enlil]
    #19119641 - 11/11/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This sorta happened to me. I was unable to get a ride to my last day of probation, I wasn't able to finish community service either. What made everything even more confusing is that I was reassigned a new PO because my original one moved to another building. Which was shitty news because my last PO understood I had problems with transportation. It took me 3 days just to finally contact this new PO after leaving several messages, I even had the front office write down my name and phone number so they could tell the PO to give me a call. I was just told to go back to court, all that really means is that you will get your probation reinstated most likely. It has been 2 months, no letters in the mail, and the courthouse doesn't even have me in their system. :shrug:


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: zee007]
    #19119657 - 11/11/13 09:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

wow so i looked at my home phone caller id and they called me under "BCC" on the fifth.... and probably left me a voicemail. which i have no access to. man i am so fucked man.


by the way, people seem to be confusing PRE-TRIAL DIVERSION for Probation. I am in pre-trail diversion at the moment, so if i get dropped from that i just get put into probation, and then all of this fucking shit is on my record for the rest of my life, i lose my license and my insurance goes through the roof. FUCK CORRECTIONS!!!!!!!!!! im so pissed right now!!!!


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: 404]
    #19119687 - 11/11/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yeah mine was pre-trial diversion too.. I'm hoping my record isn't fucked either.

I really wouldn't worry so much man. My county is strict as fuck and I was told from the probation office 9 times out of 10 I would get the chance to re-do the program without having to pay any extra fees. A lot of county's actually gladly do this because they desperately need volunteers for parks and what not.

I know the feel though, I went through this pretty recently, and you have to jump through 50 fucking hoops just to get a hold of someone. If you show initiative they will work with you. I'm assuming this is your first offence besides small things like traffic violations.


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: zee007]
    #19119745 - 11/11/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

May I ask why you are on parole?


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: Patlal]
    #19119748 - 11/11/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

He didn't say he was on parole.


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: Enlil]
    #19119755 - 11/11/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, then which crime has he committed to be subject to government imposed consequences


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: Patlal]
    #19119771 - 11/11/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Ok, then which crime has he committed to be subject to government imposed consequences




Anytime you break the law? Lols. That question wasn't specific enough


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: Enlil]
    #19119815 - 11/11/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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they DON'T care about you. they DON'T care about your success. you are inhuman to them and you must bend to their will and whims,



You must have a crystal ball or something for you to know this.

My experience with probation officers is that they generally DO care and DO want their probationers to succeed...

Of course, you're psychic, so you know that his specific probation officer doesn't care about him...





yes, Enlil, I am a WIZARD! didn't you know?

this is just how my experience has been being in the system. and i have a pretty decent PO that i work with, she's nice and helpful, but in the end I know I am just another number to her. one situation in particular sticks out where their equipment was broken one day so i had to fill out a document as proof of reporting instead for that month. they lost the document and said i failed to report that month. it's shit like that, when our lives and livelihoods are at stake that really make you feel less than human in their eyes....


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: zee007]
    #19119876 - 11/11/13 10:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

zee i thought you were dropped from pre trial, and now its just regular probation?


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: 404]
    #19120216 - 11/11/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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zee i thought you were dropped from pre trial, and now its just regular probation?




Nope... I just never heard from the court, and when I called them I had no trial lined up. I called the court house twice already, two weeks after I failed to make it to the probation office, and a week before my birthday, which was almost 2 months after. I'm going to find out if my diversion is pending after I finish community service just in case I have a warrant out and go from there. I think they just decided to drop me out of the system which I heard happens, so I might have just gotten pretty lucky.


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: zee007]
    #19120868 - 11/11/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well i hope the best for you



in other news... MY OFFICER IS ACTUALLY COOL! i just got an email today saying "stop it.... we just need to get on the same page. its good that you are communicating, i will reset it, just come in for a drug test tomorrow"


im so relieved. i shit bricks for two days straight man, fuck.


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: 404]
    #19120881 - 11/11/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So much for your theory that he doesn't care about you.


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Re: fucked and dont know what to do. [Re: 404]
    #19121015 - 11/11/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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well i hope the best for you



in other news... MY OFFICER IS ACTUALLY COOL! i just got an email today saying "stop it.... we just need to get on the same page. its good that you are communicating, i will reset it, just come in for a drug test tomorrow"


im so relieved. i shit bricks for two days straight man, fuck.




can I say... I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO!

Haha glad to hear man! :highfive: As long as you show them you care they will work with you.


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