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I think my jars have stalled * 1
    #19111901 - 11/09/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have some rye berry jars that seem to have stalled at around 90% colonization. 

Should I go ahead and spawn them to bulk?

I don't know if it makes any difference but I'm using High Mountain Compost


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: psykonautix]
    #19111914 - 11/09/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I wouldnt use anything that stalled, post a pic


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #19111931 - 11/09/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Get out the sharpie and mark the edge. Then check it in a couple days. If it hasn't moved then you know for sure it's stalled. I wouldn't spawn anything that's stalled because first you don't know why it stalled, could be contamed, and second, uncolonized grains will be easy pickins for contams move  in and set up shop.


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19112172 - 11/09/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

they haven't made any noticeable progress in a week



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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: psykonautix] * 1
    #19112219 - 11/09/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You need to shake them up.

They appear wet and unhealthy though. Can you get a smell?

See what happens after the shake.

Also, I wouldn't trust micropore tape as a GE filter with grains.


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19112286 - 11/09/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You need to shake them up.

They appear wet and unhealthy though. Can you get a smell?

See what happens after the shake.

Also, I wouldn't trust micropore tape as a GE filter with grains.




:whathesaid: How long since you inoculated? I've found that a grain jar left for too long will eventually have an errant endospore germinate and bacteria will take over. I discovered that with a ps mexicana jar where all the wedges ended up on one side of the jar, and since I didn't want to shake em I just let it go. 6 weeks later and I found bacteria forming in the bottom corner opposite the wedges.

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Sterilzation only gives a 'window of opportunity' and is never complete.  If you g2g with uncolonized grains, those uncolonized kernels might sit for another two weeks in the receiving jar before the mycelium gets to them, thus they're outside their window, and more likely to contaminate. 

Let the jars fully colonize.  Being in a hurry never benefits mycology.
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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19112298 - 11/09/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yep should of shaken those a long time ago.

shake the shit outta them then post a pic of how they look after 2-3 days


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: twistedty]
    #19112949 - 11/10/13 01:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've shaken them that's def not the problem. 

I guess I'll just spawn em and see what happens


Why do you say micropore tape isn't good enough.


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: psykonautix]
    #19112976 - 11/10/13 01:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

One layer of micropore is not considered enough to filter the contams properly, two layers restricts GE too much.


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19112994 - 11/10/13 01:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

so whats the solution?


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: psykonautix]
    #19113018 - 11/10/13 01:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Shake em, see if they recover and finish. If they do then spawn em. If they don't, start over.


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: psykonautix]
    #19113505 - 11/10/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

In my opinion, the best solution is SFD's.

Micropore tape is okay for pf tek because you re primarily depending on the dry vermiculite as a contam barrier anyway.

You grain jars don't have this contam barrier and need a proper filter.


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19113640 - 11/10/13 08:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sfd's ftw


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19113659 - 11/10/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

SpitballJedi said:
You need to shake them up.

They appear wet and unhealthy though. Can you get a smell?

See what
happens after the shake.

Also, I wouldn't trust micropore tape as a GE filter with grains.




:whathesaid: How long since you inoculated? I've found that a grain jar left for too long will eventually have an errant endospore germinate and bacteria will take over. I discovered that with a ps mexicana jar where all the wedges ended up on one side of the jar, and since I didn't want to shake em I just let it go. 6 weeks later and I found bacteria forming in the bottom corner opposite the wedges.

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RogerRabbit said:
Sterilzation only gives a 'window of opportunity' and is never complete.  If you g2g with uncolonized grains, those uncolonized kernels might sit for another two weeks in the receiving jar before the mycelium gets to them, thus they're outside their window, and more likely to contaminate. 

Let the jars fully colonize.  Being in a hurry never benefits mycology.
RR




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I used to think this was bogus, now I know better :strokebeard:





I'm also very curious about this. I ended up with a couple extra qts of sterilized grains 3 weeks ago so I just stuck it up in my cupboard and I've been watching it. So far it's still clean


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: Stromrider]
    #19113840 - 11/10/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Give em another 6 weeks and then see. It did take a long time. The only reason I saw it, was with p mex, a slow species that didn't like a shake. Of course other things can happen as well, like mold spores working through the filter. That would suck too.


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: psykonautix]
    #19116152 - 11/10/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I've shaken them that's def not the problem. 

I guess I'll just spawn em and see what happens


Why do you say micropore tape isn't good enough.




well you need to shake them again bro


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: twistedty]
    #19116252 - 11/10/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I definitely agree to shake them again..
Put them to the test! :rockon:

First inspect them though..


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: twistedty]
    #19116694 - 11/10/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

dude Twisted that tattoo... fucking sick


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: psykonautix]
    #19117537 - 11/10/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have a few qt jars the same thing inside a temp. control cardboard
box. After 3 weeks they seem to stalled so I put them to the test.  I put them all under a warm window with filter sunlight.  Within one week they all colonized out the WBS.  Yeah, the WBS all turned black too from waiting too long inside these jars.  No sign of any mold or contam though.  Filtered sunlight = life.  Try it to see.


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Re: I think my jars have stalled [Re: MyTiny_Shroom]
    #19119416 - 11/11/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

when you say filtered sunlight?  can you elaborate a little?


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