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( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss.
    #19112071 - 11/09/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's been 4 weeks, 3  days.. at a  fairly consistent 72 deg. I THINK I'm  doing  fine with about  half of these and the  other half are in  question.  But I  need your expertise.  I hear varying  opinions with regards to metabolites  being present and still  going forward with  the fruiting stage. 
So,  jar for jar.... what are the  keepers ( if any),  the " watchers",  and the  definite " tossers"?

jar #1
jar #2

jar #3


jar #4

jar#5

jar#6

  jar#7

jar#8

jar#9

jar#10


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: 3rdEyeGuy]
    #19112142 - 11/09/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just curious,
How much and of what did you inoculate with?


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: 3rdEyeGuy]
    #19112143 - 11/09/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

looks way to wet, a pic of your lid would help also.

and those are the wrong size jars.

looks like metabolites from a bacterial contam that is getting ready to set in from to much moisture

what are you using for GE


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: twistedty]
    #19112159 - 11/09/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Toss them all. Get wide-mouth half-pint jars. Do what the tek says.


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19112226 - 11/09/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yeah thats for sure bacterial contam, when making your substrate i usually go a lil on the shy side when adding my water in.
have to think about how much water is going in from your sringes as well


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: shroomseng]
    #19112251 - 11/09/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

inoculated with syringe  and about a 10th of the  syringe per jar.


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: 3rdEyeGuy]
    #19112270 - 11/09/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

is  there at least  ONE  OR  TWO  worth  saving? I got the  spores from " the  spores store. "  fyi


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: 3rdEyeGuy]
    #19112276 - 11/09/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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is  there at least  ONE  OR  TWO  worth  saving? I got the  spores from " the  spores store. "  fyi





most likely not but you can try, if at first you dont succeed try try again my friend.


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19112383 - 11/09/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Toss them all. Get wide-mouth half-pint jars. Do what the tek says.




By the time you buy the right jars inoculate them and grow them the full pint jars will still be colonizing if they don't go bacterial by then.


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19112486 - 11/09/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Toss them all. Get wide-mouth half-pint jars. Do what the tek says.




They could all be fine. I hate when people just tell someone to throw away their work just because part of it doesn't fit the spec.

SOME people make the tall jars work.  He should definitely start a new grow to be safe but there is no reason to toss these before he even finds out if they will finish colonizing.

Also, a little bit of metabolites are nothing to worry about.  Just keep an eye on it.


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19112513 - 11/09/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid:

If anything, I believe you can bury them outside,
even in winter perhaps.

But in a warmer climate, prepare just like a mono
put spawn,layer of sub, mix, and cover...

And something should come of it... 

At atleast you may get some pins...

I would not throw them away, but that is just me.


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19112685 - 11/09/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I agree, no reason to be hasty and toss it all!

I agree that spawning it to bulk may be best, just use less sub so it colonizes faster. The fresh air and dryer substrate may do the mycelium good.


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
    #19113141 - 11/10/13 02:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

these are half pints... so apparently the  style I  have isn't  the proper type.  What should I  look for  if I  go ahead and  continue  to the fruiting stage?


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: 3rdEyeGuy]
    #19113173 - 11/10/13 03:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

In the future,

THEY SAY

Go for containers that are as wide as they are tall.

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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19113475 - 11/10/13 07:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Toss. I think was the answer you are looking for. 1/4cc per innoc hole.


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: Sockadin]
    #19113603 - 11/10/13 07:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, how I wished I had the heart of the optimist.

I just know I hate dealing with really nasty jars and I think those are going to get nastier.

Sure, there's nothing wrong with hanging on to them and see what happens. I've been wrong before.

Seeing that much metabolites before 100% colonization has never worked out for me.

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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19113737 - 11/10/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So  when  there's that  type of  metabolites  present,  what is  to be  expected  if I  WERE to go  forward to the  fruiting  stage?  And with most eluding to  too much wetness,  do you think more than likely I  over inoculated  the jars?


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: 3rdEyeGuy]
    #19116173 - 11/10/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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So  when  there's that  type of  metabolites  present,  what is  to be  expected  if I  WERE to go  forward to the  fruiting  stage?  And with most eluding to  too much wetness,  do you think more than likely I  over inoculated  the jars?





keep those jars i wish you the best of luck, but why you are waiting get the right sized jars

follow the tek again with the utmost attention to detail and dont skip a step.

and this http://www.mushroomvideos.com/


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Re: ( sigh) Ok, give it to me straight damnit!!! Keep or toss. [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #19116334 - 11/10/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid:

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I've been wrong before.

Seeing that much metabolites before 100% colonization has never worked out for me.

Just my opinion.




Based on my experience, I would expect it to continue to grow contaminants. I would not want to put a contamed cake in my SGFC. If I did, then I would want to clean my perlite very well after I tossed the cakes.

If you choose to continue on and see what happens, give them a smell test once you open them. You may be able to get a little whiff now, without opening the jar. If it smells like anything other than mushrooms, toss it for sure. If it smells okay and just has metabolites, it's your choice whether to fruit them or not. Opinions vary.


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