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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: morrowasted]
    #19110536 - 11/09/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Scientists experiment the fuck out of the fruit flies. I'm sure they released them into the population and now we have a bunch of freak fruit flies flying around now.


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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: Set]
    #19110537 - 11/09/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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It's just colour difference on the wing that we interpret as looking like ants, no?



*Predators of the fly interpret it looking like ants.



So, we eat fruit flies?



















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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19110550 - 11/09/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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What I want to know is wether fruit flies are healthier than normal flies?



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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: NotTheDevil] * 1
    #19110556 - 11/09/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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It's just colour difference on the wing that we interpret as looking like ants, no?



*Predators of the fly interpret it looking like ants.



So, we eat fruit flies?

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Yes!  although for the majority of us it's unintentional.  :ohyeahdefinitely:


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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: Set] * 1
    #19110969 - 11/09/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The only part of the article I really agree with are the first three words. It's hard to comprehend how natural selection can cause generations to keep small characteristics adding up to something so specific as this. Mellowparty/badchad, care to explain?




Not really. You are assuming that the pattern on the wing has to look exactly like an ant to work. All that natural selection has done is tell you that the ant pattern seems to work BEST. A fly with a dot may be afforded some protection, while one with few more dots may have an even better chance. Eventually, the more complicated patterns have added upon each other.

Fruit flies have a very short life cycle and you can actually observe some fairly significant evolutionary changes in a fairly short time.


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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: koods]
    #19110992 - 11/09/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

anyone figure out what the g stands for? for all i can tell (about 2 google searches lol) i cant even find a fruit fly genus that starts with g


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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: badchad]
    #19111017 - 11/09/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Not much of an evolutionary-science guy, but it seems the basic premise is plausible:  The flies with "ants" on their wings were more likely to survive, and pass on their genetic material, including these abstract spots.

Mimicry is pretty common in animals and insects as well.

My other comment is that this could be a great example of pareidolia, where we tend to interpret somewhat abstract shapes as common objects/animals etc.  If you saw those abstract shapes on a piece of paper, would you immediately say "those are ants?"  maybe, maybe not.




I agree that it sounds like evolution (of course), but it isnt that easy for a mutation to just "cause" full images of flies on wings.

Quite interesting.


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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: morrowasted]
    #19111024 - 11/09/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah that's pretty cool but I'm thinking it just coincidentally kinda looks like an ant, not that the fruit fly evolved to use the image of an ant as camouflage. Looks pretty badass though.


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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19111074 - 11/09/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Not much of an evolutionary-science guy, but it seems the basic premise is plausible:  The flies with "ants" on their wings were more likely to survive, and pass on their genetic material, including these abstract spots.

Mimicry is pretty common in animals and insects as well.

My other comment is that this could be a great example of pareidolia, where we tend to interpret somewhat abstract shapes as common objects/animals etc.  If you saw those abstract shapes on a piece of paper, would you immediately say "those are ants?"  maybe, maybe not.




I agree that it sounds like evolution (of course), but it isnt that easy for a mutation to just "cause" full images of flies on wings.

Quite interesting.




I just explained that two posts above yours.


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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: hidenseek1] * 1
    #19111096 - 11/09/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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anyone figure out what the g stands for? for all i can tell (about 2 google searches lol) i cant even find a fruit fly genus that starts with g



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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: Set]
    #19111227 - 11/09/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Set said:
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It's just colour difference on the wing that we interpret as looking like ants, no?



*Predators of the fly interpret it looking like ants.



Thinking about a predator of a fruit fly being afraid of an ant made me laugh xD


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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: Sled]
    #19111410 - 11/09/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Orchis simia and  Dracula simia


Nature is pretty sweet


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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: koods]
    #19111539 - 11/09/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I agree that it sounds like evolution (of course), but it isnt that easy for a mutation to just "cause" full images of flies on wings.

Quite interesting.




I just explained that two posts above yours.




Yeah, it would be interesting to see some other flies.  In science "representative sample" is actually "best darn one ya got".


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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: Sled]
    #19111696 - 11/09/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Sled said:
It's just colour difference on the wing that we interpret as looking like ants, no?



*Predators of the fly interpret it looking like ants.



Thinking about a predator of a fruit fly being afraid of an ant made me laugh xD



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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #19111784 - 11/09/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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My other comment is that this could be a great example of pareidolia, where we tend to interpret somewhat abstract shapes as common objects/animals etc.  If you saw those abstract shapes on a piece of paper, would you immediately say "those are ants?"  maybe, maybe not.




That's a good point.




i always thought of this as well.  I've always been waiting to actually find something like this and finally it happened.  If it is just a random pattern.. its still comes on as some other bug on its wing so even unsuspecting animal think theirs three bugs in one spot.  Image trickery lol

Which is where intelligent design comes into play.  How does the wing know to take on that form in such a way that.. unsuspecting creatures view it as a separate bug. 

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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: tripp23]
    #19111800 - 11/09/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: tripp23]
    #19111812 - 11/09/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Which is where intelligent design comes into play.  How does the wing know to take on that form in such a way that.. unsuspecting creatures view it as a separate bug. 

God really is everything.  Awesome!



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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: WindSearcher]
    #19111869 - 11/09/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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fruit flies do evolve fast



Yeah so did photoshop. :lolsy: I propose rule 4 enforcement on grounds of stupidity. All you guys should go to your local community college and take genetics 101. You'd be really surprised they teach really important things like probabilities. :facepalm: The rest can send me Credit cards, checks and money orders so we can buy a bunch of lottery tickets. Though cash is O.K. too I promise we'll divide the winnings fairly :lolsy:


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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: Set]
    #19111883 - 11/09/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Which is where intelligent design comes into play.  How does the wing know to take on that form in such a way that.. unsuspecting creatures view it as a separate bug. 

God really is everything.  Awesome!



"Lord Of the Flies" wasn't a literal title.




Wasn't it a rotting pigs head?


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Re: WTF fruit fly "evolved" to have pictures of ants on its wings [Re: koods]
    #19111902 - 11/09/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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tripp23 said:
Which is where intelligent design comes into play.  How does the wing know to take on that form in such a way that.. unsuspecting creatures view it as a separate bug. 

God really is everything.  Awesome!



"Lord Of the Flies" wasn't a literal title.




Wasn't it a rotting pigs head?



I think "beastie" is the scientific term.


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