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Flyinghigh



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ID please? Possible strictipes maybe?
#19110928 - 11/09/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey guys didnt have much luck in the lib thread so wondering if you can help me here? i found these today, could be deconica could be p.strictipes
Habitat: Southeast uk, I found these on a small field where people,dogs and horses walk, they where in grass (not on any dung) at the side of the footpath,
Gills: The gills are chocolate brown, unnattached
Stem: the stem was pretty much the same as a lib stem.
Cap: Biggest cap was about 1.2cm in diameter, umbonate, olive green to brown when wet with transluscent prominent nipple, cap drying to a creamy wrinkled lib colour, also had the pelicile film when wet,
Spore print color: I think I've left it too long to gain a spore print :/
Bruising: didn't notice any
Here's some pics hope they help! 
 
Any helps great thanks,
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Re: ID please? Possible strictipes maybe? [Re: Flyinghigh]
#19111002 - 11/09/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Deconica seems promising.
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Re: ID please? Possible strictipes maybe? [Re: canid]
#19113113 - 11/10/13 02:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Very interesting whatever it is!
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Flyinghigh



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Re: ID please? Possible strictipes maybe? [Re: Tangich]
#19113142 - 11/10/13 02:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sorry for the late reply! I just looked under the glass to see if I had a spore print but seems I was too late! Next time ill get 1 ASAP to help identify better 
Ill take it as deconica and throw them away, but I am so surprised at how 'lib like' it was, the way it dried, the nipple and pelicile, colour etc. just shows the importance of a spore print and how similar different species can be 
Ill be a better myco 1 day haha
Thanks for the help guys
Happy hunting!
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Re: ID please? Possible strictipes maybe? [Re: Flyinghigh]
#19113174 - 11/10/13 03:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Flyinghigh said: Sorry for the late reply! I just looked under the glass to see if I had a spore print but seems I was too late! Next time ill get 1 ASAP to help identify better 
Ill take it as deconica and throw them away, but I am so surprised at how 'lib like' it was, the way it dried, the nipple and pelicile, colour etc. just shows the importance of a spore print and how similar different species can be 
Ill be a better myco 1 day haha
Thanks for the help guys
Happy hunting! 
wow wow... dont throw them away, those are cool either way. dry them and save them, try and find more, could be really interesting!
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Re: ID please? Possible strictipes maybe? [Re: Joust]
#19113526 - 11/10/13 07:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think these are P. semilanceata. I know the cap is slightly off, shape wise, but I've found alot that look like them this season so keep hold of them 
EDIT: Just re-read and noticed gill colour. Find some more and do a spore print
Edited by Bubbles85 (11/10/13 07:29 AM)
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Flyinghigh



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Re: ID please? Possible strictipes maybe? [Re: Bubbles85]
#19114904 - 11/10/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've dried them and put them seperate from anything for future reference maybe 
I've had weather reports of frost so finding anymore may be a problem yea bubbles to me it felt very lib like, that's why I thought strictipes because of the slight shape difference the thing that made me stop was the colour of it, exactly the same as a lib otherwise I would have just thought it was a deconica sp. and walked on,
So can you guys tell me please, do some deconica species have a removable pelicile?
Any helps great thanks
Peace
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Re: ID please? Possible strictipes maybe? [Re: Flyinghigh]
#19114926 - 11/10/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Make sure you've labeled them recognizably.
A little frost is nothing to worry about.
Yes, several species in Deconica have a separable pellicle.
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Re: ID please? Possible strictipes maybe? [Re: canid]
#19114964 - 11/10/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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My guess is P. semilanceata. I am not sure that P. strictipes is a valid taxon, they might just be P. semilanceata that have more convex caps and smaller spores.
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canid
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and more brittle stipes. I've never felt sure this isn't a factor of age/weather, but it may hold up.
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Re: ID please? Possible strictipes maybe? [Re: canid] 1
#19114994 - 11/10/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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canid said: and more brittle stipes. I've never felt sure this isn't a factor of age/weather, but it may hold up.
A great deal of the more mature semilanceata specimens I find have, in wet conditions, a quite brittle stipe. To me it seems both age, weather and the general conditions in the habitat are factors. I have noted that the stipes are tougher before the cap is fully opened.
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Flyinghigh



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Re: ID please? Possible strictipes maybe? [Re: canid]
#19115147 - 11/10/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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canid said: Make sure you've labeled them recognizably.
A little frost is nothing to worry about.
Yes, several species in Deconica have a separable pellicle.
Ok that's good to know thanks, and I've labeled them so i know where and when they came from.
I would also like to call them libs they just seemed to 'feel' like libs in my gut, I'm no expert but its just how I felt...just the shape puzzled me...
Anyways great for all the info guys thanks! 
Good luck on your travels
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Re: ID please? Possible strictipes maybe? [Re: Flyinghigh]
#19115162 - 11/10/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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do they feel like libs in your hands too? It's possible.
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Flyinghigh



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Re: ID please? Possible strictipes maybe? [Re: canid]
#19115223 - 11/10/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haha wish I did have some libs in my gut!
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