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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: Psilicon]
    #19252018 - 12/09/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

thanks, there was two bags that looked a little overly damp when I got the 4, but I thought it was normal and went ahead and knocked them up, i'll just ordered some substrate from them, I'll mention the bags too.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19252409 - 12/09/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'd just let it sit and see if it grows.  If it does, contact your vendor.  As far from the injection port as that is, there isn't really any possibility of user error.  They will almost certainly send you another without complaint, especially if you show them the picture.




are they edibles? if so they will, but if not the cubensis spores are for microscopy use only.  we here at shroomery love to look at spores


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: twistedty]
    #19252448 - 12/09/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'd just let it sit and see if it grows.  If it does, contact your vendor.  As far from the injection port as that is, there isn't really any possibility of user error.  They will almost certainly send you another without complaint, especially if you show them the picture.




are they edibles? if so they will, but if not the cubensis spores are for microscopy use only.  we here at shroomery love to look at spores




Looks like oyster mycelium to me :shrug:


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: twistedty]
    #19252481 - 12/09/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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van der griegen said:
I'd just let it sit and see if it grows.  If it does, contact your vendor.  As far from the injection port as that is, there isn't really any possibility of user error.  They will almost certainly send you another without complaint, especially if you show them the picture.




are they edibles? if so they will, but if not the cubensis spores are for microscopy use only.  we here at shroomery love to look at spores




OP, there's no need to answer that question.  That far away from the inoculation point, it doesn't matter what you inoculated with.  The bacteria was in the grain.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: Psilicon]
    #19252509 - 12/09/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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OP, there's no need to answer that question.  That far away from the inoculation point, it doesn't matter what you inoculated with.  The bacteria was in the grain.




good point.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19255591 - 12/10/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I can't help to check on them everyday since this is my first grow,
the bag that showed signs first is REALLY taking off,
theres only one bag that isn't showing ANYTHING and it was the bag
that seemed overly damp.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19256105 - 12/10/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



starting to see that rizomorphic growth on a few of the grains.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19260946 - 12/11/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)


:datass:


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19260950 - 12/11/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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:datass:



:whathesaid:


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19262245 - 12/11/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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:datass:




:fuckyeahdance:


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19262546 - 12/11/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm pretty happy.
I shouldn't be looking at it everyday but I love
watching it grow, its amazing.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19263942 - 12/12/13 01:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I look at them all the time.  I've spent hours in my grow room just looking.  My wife has told me that I must be crazy.  To her it seems like I am just sitting there waiting for mushrooms to spring up right before my eyes.  It is all part of the hobby my friend.  Let yourself look and enjoy the looking.  The more time you spend staring at your bag the more familiar you are about how things look.  The more familiar you are with how things look the quicker you will spot something if it goes wrong.  You will also familiar with how thing are supposed to look.

I really want to see you succeed.  Now on to your mono tub designs.  I hate to be a kill joy, but none of them work.  I am surprised no one has said anything about it yet.  I really don't want to come in to your thread and talk smack.  All the criticism I have about your tubs is just to let you know what you are doing wrong so you can fix it and your grows will be successful.  A shotgun style fruiting chamber is used for fruiting cakes.  A mono tub is obviously used for mono tubs.  Mono tubs are used to cultivate bulk substrate with grains.  The mono tub design is tried and true.  That is why we still do it like we do, it works.  Tinkering with the design of a mono tub will change it's ability to do what it needs to do.  If for example you add holes or take holes away from any given part of the mono tub you have changed the way the air will flow in the tub.  This will then cause the humidity in the tub to change.  Next thing you know your tub isn't holding the right humidity and then the air flow changes, then the humidity changes, then the air flow changes, the... Well you get the point right?  Get a tote, pick a tek and stick with it.  TranscendingLife has really solid teks.  His wording and directions are really noobie friendly and I use his tek for my mono tubs.  Here is a link: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14722933#14722933

Figuring out how much spawn and substrate to use in any given tub can be a daunting task.  Here's a few things to keep in mind when trying to figure this out; ten quarts of substrate to one quart of spawn will get the job done.  Whenever you have a new tub that you are going to work with there is a really simple formula to follow. This will make it easy to figure out how many quarts you need to fill that baby up to whatever substrate depth you want to work with.  The standard depth seems to be right around three to five inches depending on who you ask.  I personally set my substrate level at four inches.  to figure out how many quarts I am going to need with a tub that I haven't worked with yet I get out my tape measure and mark four inches around the outside of the tub.  Now I get a quart jar, fill it with water, dump it into the tub, and then I look to see how high up the water level is.  I make a tally mark on a piece of paper each time I add another quart of water to the tub.  I keep adding water one quart at a time while tallying the quarts until the water has reached my sharpie line on the outside of the tub.  This is how many quarts I need.  Once I know this I go about making my mono tub following TranscendingLife's tek.  Now I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that the mini tubs you are using are the same ones I use.  If I am right then I can tell you that those particular tubs need eight quarts of substrate/spawn if you want a four inch substrate depth for your tub. 

As far as the cost of doing things, buying supplies, and all the money needed for this hobby you are going to have to buy a PC.  There is absolutely NO way around this.  You can get a fairly inexpensive PC from Walmart for about $40.  The $40 model will only be big enough to fit  about four half pint jars for PF tek cakes but it's a start.  You can do the PF tek without a PC, but you will not be able to work with grains without a PC, and a small PC just wont cut it for quart jars.  You want something big.  You want an "All American PC".  At this point in your hobby you are buying substrate bags from vendors.  Everything comes to you all sterile and ready to go.  But as you have already seen it is very expensive to get your supplies like this, and it is not always 100% of the time going to be properly sterilized. It's just the cost of doing it like that will KILL you.  It works for now but you are not going to get out of getting a pressure cooker.  Do what you are doing because it works for you for right now but... If and when you ever happen to run into some extra cash in the near future use it to buy your pressure cooker.  Hobby mycologist are innovative people.  I am sure you can somehow figure out a way to get some extra cash.

Was there anything else?  Oh I don't remember.  I've rambled enough for now.  I hope what I am saying makes sense to you.  But ya back to that first thing I was talking about; spend all sorts of time with your jars.  This is such a fun hobby.  First, you are worrying about getting the money to buy a new tote to make a new tub while you sit and stare at jars waiting to see if you can see the growth, and I swear to you sometimes I almost think I can see that stuff grow. It grows so damn fast. Then all of the sudden you are worried about the money to get a blower for your flow hood while you are still staring at jars waiting to see the twisting and braiding of rhizomorphic mycelium as it happens.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: Willy Wonka]
    #19265635 - 12/12/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

After a few grows I'm going to invest in a PC and a food dehydrator and a few other things, I'm glad to hear you want me to succeed. :thumbup: Far as my mono goes I thought it was fine, the sterallite tub from Wal-Mart was recommended and I put holes in the right spots, only thing I did different was add a cut basket so I could have bottom fruits too.
and I made my mono/bucket just as the site said.
My 6lbs of 50/50 substrate got here today, I'm thinking of a 1:2 ratio for the bucket and a 1:3 for the regular mono giving both a 4in depth.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19266265 - 12/12/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Heres a full update at day 8.

The three survivors of the 4.


sorry for the glares, this is mainly to show the over all of the bag.

A-strain bag1



A-strain bag2



Tasmania bag1(the bad wet bag)



Tasmania bag2



To address the tub and bucket I'm using,


Followed the bucket 100% correctly,

the monotub I added a basket bottom so mushies could grow on the bottom of the substrate too, other than that everythings good, I have 2 holes on each side right above were the substrate will be and a few big holes below the basket for good FAE. There's pockets were the basket bends inwards in between the basket and the tub (in between the two smaller holes, above the big hole) on the longer sides, witch creates channels for air to go between the side of the basket and tub wall and reach the bottom.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19267374 - 12/12/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Time to shake those bags.  =)


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    #19267400 - 12/12/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

this soon? I'd say bagA-1 is 25% and bagT-2 is 20%


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19267440 - 12/12/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, 20-25% is great, but I personally think they look a lot more colonized than just that.  Keep in mind mycelium grows in a three-dimensional pattern, and that any streak you see is usually actually half a tube, and every circle is a truncated sphere.


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    #19267458 - 12/12/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

how should I go about shaking the bags,?
I'll give a-1 and t-2 a shake tomorrow morning.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19267645 - 12/12/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I use the RR method and bang them against a bicycle tire. :grin: I don't normally shake it until it's at 100%, for no real reason other than I haven't really noticed a difference one way or the other. To each their own. :wink:


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19267655 - 12/12/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I use the RR method and bang them against a bicycle tire. :grin: I don't normally shake it until it's at 100%, for no real reason other than I haven't really noticed a difference one way or the other. To each their own. :wink:



y would you bang a bag on a tire....stoner lol


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