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N2ocean
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TeaSippinHippie said: by kneed do you mean move the grains around gently? of actual breaking up of the grains
just moving them around gently if it's practical to do, if not don't worry about it. also, i edited my post above do you think you'll have enough sub to have a 4" depth in your tubs?
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TeaSippinHippie



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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: N2ocean]
#19128344 - 11/12/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have 1 mino mono(27 qts) and 1 5 gallon bucket and 4 1lb bags of grain spawn, and i'm ordering 6 1lb bags of 50/50 substrate, im hoping 2:2 will be enough for the bucket, so I can put a 2:3 in the monotub,
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Edited by TeaSippinHippie (12/07/13 12:20 PM)
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N2ocean
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yea, sorry for all my wariness w/ the monos, i'm really just not familiar with them. It's hard for me to judge how much sub exactly you have and the size of your mono's; you're the best judge at that. I'd say just lay the stuff inside your tubs, and estimate to make sure you've got enough depth... as long as you do or come close you'll be just fine
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TeaSippinHippie



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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: N2ocean]
#19128420 - 11/12/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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and if its under 3" it'll do poorly correct?
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N2ocean
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it won't do optimally, no. But it could still do ok. I just did a super small pan with 1" of sub with what i had left that wouldn't fit in a few trays. It actually performed quite well. I had a great pinset and a ton of mushrooms grew from it. However they were all about 1-1.5" tall. My deeper substrates are growing 3-4" caps on average.
If you are debating I'd go w/ one tub w/ a deeper substrate layer rather than 2 tubs that skimp on depth. If you're a little below 3 i you'll still do alright, even 2" i'm guessing will do pretty ok. My 1" grow did fine, just not optimal.
Or if you want you could spawn 1 tub to decent depth and then make small tray with a smaller amount of substrate and put into your other tub (converted to a sgfc if you don't want an all your eggs in one basket kind of thing. Then you can see which method you prefer.
No need to worry too much, impatience can cause the grower to do a lot of unnecessary things to his grow that will only harm it. Just be calm and allow these things time to grow slowly.
And make sure you're sterile!
is your substrate pasteurized or sterilized?
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TeaSippinHippie



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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: N2ocean]
#19133553 - 11/13/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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its the 50/50 substrate from outgrow.com, im assuming its both. and I do wanna keep it two tubs incase of contaminates. i'm thinking of ordering 6 50/50 bags and put 3 to two spawn bags, that should be enough for a good depth, if not I'll do what you stated, thanks man
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TeaSippinHippie



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I've been seeing a lot on rack grows, anybody think this would work? rack/monotub
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Notfromarkansas
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Shrooms are shrooms with proper conditions it should be filled out or mostly around a month.
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Notfromarkansas
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I think the racks are for good drainage and airflow the only problem i see is substrate falling through but im sure it would work.
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TeaSippinHippie



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I know that, right now im worrying over my 27qt monotubs being to big.
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TeaSippinHippie



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Notfromarkansas said: I think the racks are for good drainage and airflow the only problem i see is substrate falling through but im sure it would work.
ima mess around with that later, seems like a good shot to me.
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TeaSippinHippie



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rack/monotub

gonna go ahead and try this out since it'll take less substrate and will fix my problem. I have holes on top of the tub, and some below the rack where the substrate will sit, theres room between the rack and tub wall for airflow and side pins,
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Notfromarkansas said: the only problem i see is substrate falling through but im sure it would work.
I think the holes are ideal, even so I'll do it over some new aluminum foil and dump the bit that falls through on the top.
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TeaSippinHippie



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spores never got here and the vendor hasn't replied about a replacement, so I guess im going to order more from a different vendor. I will get this thread going soon as I get some spores, my bad shroomery
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shroomseng
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Not all presterilized bags are created equal. If your bags stall, and smell sour bacteria that'd be bad. Keep your nostrils open and waft the air towards you so you can get a light breather of it.
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BittrBuffalo
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Goddamn, does anyone else feel like they're watching a bunch of guys building a man cave? Just sayin'. ( you guys )
You went through all that before your spores even came?
So it turns out you're not supposed to name names when it comes to Shroomery vendors in the Cultivation Forum at all, because technically cubensis spores are meant for microscopy only and you don't want to get any of them in trouble. However, you ARE allowed to name names of non-Shroomery vendors if you're reporting on how bad they've fucked you. Grower discretion is advised.
Not to be a buzzkill, but IME, homemade ALWAYS works better than store-bought. I actually had a similar experience once: I didn't have a PC but wanted to try my hand at bulk, so I bought pre-sterilized rye bags. Turns out they were contaminated with bacteria, and I wasted a whole syringe of TLY (which I had wanted to try) and a bunch of time. The vendor replaced them, which was nice of them, but later I found out that at least two other Shroomery members had the same problem with the same vendor. The vendor was very accommodating, but it was still annoying. After that I just got myself some Home Depot and Bed Bath and Beyond coupons and got a PC, WBS, some gypsum, and quart jars and did it my own damn self and haven't looked back. Despite what the assholes may tell you, other pressure canners can do just as well as AA and you can probably actually afford and/or find one. Rubber gaskets are not the huge problem people make them out to be, and you really shouldn't have to replace them more than once or twice or else you're just unlucky or doing something you shouldn't be. Really.
I'm gonna plug the PF tek right now, because I feel like being an iconoclast. PF tek is fast and simple, you don't need a ton of supplies, and your chance of contamination is really low if you do it right. It's kinda like microwave popcorn: fast, tasty, simple, cheap, and practically impossible to fuck up if you follow the directions. You're gonna get more if you have one of those schwanky movie-theater machine setups, but if you don't need all that, a bag in the microwave will do just fine.
Anyway, you've already got your schwanky setup going and all of the boys in the house here just can't let anyone do anything small (have you noticed that the unofficial Shroomery motto is "Go big or go home"?). Sucks about the spore syringe...sometimes things do take up to two weeks regular mail, though. Go to the vendor forum. Sometimes vendors have specials they only do at the Shroomery and you may be able to get a freebie or something. 
Now I want popcorn.
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TeaSippinHippie



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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#19180148 - 11/23/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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the first order shipped out, just never arrived, its been over two weeks, but I located a vendor closer to me and im going to try them. ( I only use shroomery recommended vendors ) on the pf tek, I am going to do this one day, when I feel I have the proper environment and such, right now I feel like doing it this way is a better approach to the hobby without ruining it through stress.
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TeaSippinHippie



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could I put both my tubs in bags and not tape them up during colonization? I heard fresh air is key, but then lots of people say no FAE during colonization. I think I'm going to do it either way, I just wanted some input and I think the little bit of air in the bags will be ok.
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PussyFart
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TeaSippinHippie said: could I put both my tubs in bags and not tape them up during colonization?
No, tape them up(the holes, not the lid).....you want high co2 levels for colonization, and FAE for fruiting.
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Edited by PussyFart (12/04/13 10:58 PM)
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TeaSippinHippie



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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: PussyFart]
#19229434 - 12/04/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I figured there wouldn't be any problems, there in a bag tied up wouldn't they have high co2 levels?
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TeaSippinHippie



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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. *DELETED* [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
#19229441 - 12/04/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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