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OfflineNotTheDevil
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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: Maverick]
    #19110790 - 11/09/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #19110816 - 11/09/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:
Pretty much any answer given beyond "beat the rapist's ass" is full of shit. It's one thing to sit there and say what you'd do, another to actually live through the situation.

Rapists get away with it quite often, yet there's almost never a story in the news about one facing vigilante justice such as having their genitalia removed or being disemboweled or fed to the wolves or the hundreds of different things people say. It just doesn't happen.




QFT. I've been in this situation before.

Had a good plan for how he was gonna get his and everything, but ultimately what it comes down to is the fact that you will most likely get caught and on top of the feelings the victim is already going through, now she will blame herself for you being locked up, and she'll be without your much needed shoulder for support. Then there's the thought of what if she's lying? You can usually tell if you've known her for long, but we've all met psychotic and vindictive women who are unbelievably convincing while they weave their webs of deceit.

Impulse is a fools compass.


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: RiderOnTheStorm] * 1
    #19110839 - 11/09/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If someone I knew rapped I would be mad happy because then I could do all the things I wanted to do back in highschool and people would think I'm tough and stylish.


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: qman]
    #19110851 - 11/09/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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qman said:
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Uzziel said:
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qman said:
it's a criminal justice issue, nothing more.




Yeah because our government is 100% competent to do what needs to be done, all the time, no exceptions.

Right....




If you want to use vigilante justice, go for it, but the criminal justice system uses a real investigation based on physical evidence before arresting and convicting someone of rape. 

Many women make false allegations, and then people react based on their verbal accusation, without any proof.




Except they just came out saying over 400,000 rape kits aren't even TESTED all over the news. Yeah fucking RIGHT.

Sure there are fakes.... but THERE ARE TONS OF REAL RAPES.

Keep fucking spouted ignorant nonsense about how your government is doing justice....

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/05/michigan-test-old-rape-kits/2394609/

http://www.nonprofitquarterly.org/policysocial-context/22247-400-000-untested-rape-kits-nonprofits-take-the-issue-on.html

http://nation.time.com/2013/09/07/the-dark-side-of-clearing-americas-rape-kit-backlog/


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #19110877 - 11/09/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Shroomslip said:
Pretty much any answer given beyond "beat the rapist's ass" is full of shit. It's one thing to sit there and say what you'd do, another to actually live through the situation.

Rapists get away with it quite often, yet there's almost never a story in the news about one facing vigilante justice such as having their genitalia removed or being disemboweled or fed to the wolves or the hundreds of different things people say. It just doesn't happen.



I was just thinking the same thing reading all the tough guy vigilante responses in this thread. People almost never do anything about it even when they know about it. In fact, often women are ostracized from their social circles in favor of the rapist when things get uncomfortable. It's very sad but true.


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: Uzziel]
    #19110885 - 11/09/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah but in a lot of weird places you can claim rape even if there was no struggle or anything...


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: Uzziel]
    #19110940 - 11/09/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Uzziel said:
Quote:

qman said:
it's a criminal justice issue, nothing more.




Yeah because our government is 100% competent to do what needs to be done, all the time, no exceptions.

Right....




oh, so because something isnt absolutely perfect then it should be done away with or something?

ever make any mistakes of your own?


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: Konyap]
    #19110946 - 11/09/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Illyabo said:
Yeah but in a lot of weird places you can claim rape even if there was no struggle or anything...





rape doesnt have to involve a struggle


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: Uzziel]
    #19110953 - 11/09/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Uzziel said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

Uzziel said:
Quote:

qman said:
it's a criminal justice issue, nothing more.




Yeah because our government is 100% competent to do what needs to be done, all the time, no exceptions.

Right....




If you want to use vigilante justice, go for it, but the criminal justice system uses a real investigation based on physical evidence before arresting and convicting someone of rape. 

Many women make false allegations, and then people react based on their verbal accusation, without any proof.




Except they just came out saying over 400,000 rape kits aren't even TESTED all over the news. Yeah fucking RIGHT.

Sure there are fakes.... but THERE ARE TONS OF REAL RAPES.

Keep fucking spouted ignorant nonsense about how your government is doing justice....

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/05/michigan-test-old-rape-kits/2394609/

http://www.nonprofitquarterly.org/policysocial-context/22247-400-000-untested-rape-kits-nonprofits-take-the-issue-on.html

http://nation.time.com/2013/09/07/the-dark-side-of-clearing-americas-rape-kit-backlog/




I never said the criminal justice system was perfect, there are limited resources, unsolvable crimes, and plenty of real rapes that take place.

Vigilante justice based on a accusation still makes little sense for most men.


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19110955 - 11/09/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Uzziel said:
Quote:

qman said:
it's a criminal justice issue, nothing more.




Yeah because our government is 100% competent to do what needs to be done, all the time, no exceptions.

Right....




oh, so because something isnt absolutely perfect then it should be done away with or something?

ever make any mistakes of your own?




Where did I say to get rid of it? I never did.

I'm just saying there are times when you take matters in your own hands because the government isn't always going to help you.


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: Uzziel]
    #19111011 - 11/09/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Uzziel said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Uzziel said:
Quote:

qman said:
it's a criminal justice issue, nothing more.




Yeah because our government is 100% competent to do what needs to be done, all the time, no exceptions.

Right....




oh, so because something isnt absolutely perfect then it should be done away with or something?

ever make any mistakes of your own?




Where did I say to get rid of it? I never did.

I'm just saying there are times when you take matters in your own hands because the government isn't always going to help you.





what matters would those be? what would one do in a situation
like this if they didnt get the police involved?


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19111051 - 11/09/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Something involving drugs, would definitely be an obvious one. The police can't help you return stolen items a lot of the time as well.

Reports about how many rape victims aren't even followed up on..I'm sure there is a lot more situations where the police can't help you.

From my knowledge, they don't have to or even be obligated to help you even if they are there to help.


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: Uzziel]
    #19111083 - 11/09/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They could it's just it'd divert a lot of time away from gathering other resources lol :smile:


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: Konyap]
    #19111124 - 11/09/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Watch every episode of Dexter at least 3 times and then begin preparation.
:ohsodevious:

Gotta have Scopalamine for these kind of situations.

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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: Konyap]
    #19111128 - 11/09/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Illyabo said:
They could it's just it'd divert a lot of time away from gathering other resources lol :smile:




Which is entirely my point. Sometimes you have to do shit yourself and not rely on anyone else.


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19111198 - 11/09/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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TheMovement said:
and the police refused to or could not prosecute the rapist.  Would you take justice into your own hands?  How would you handle the situation?





I would support the one I cared about, I'd be there for her and do what I
could to help her through the troubling times she's in for



Basically :whathesaid:

Like I'd love to sit here and say that I'd find the rapist, tie him up and leave him in my garage for a day, rape him, and then when I'm done with him and he's on the floor crying, point at him and call him gay (and possibly fat too), but I'm too much of a pussy for that kind of shit :lol:. Besides, supporting the one I care for seems like it would more helpful approach :thumbup:


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: gulper2323]
    #19111231 - 11/09/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What if said rapist is a high school guidance counselor? would that change anything?


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19111244 - 11/09/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I would do my best to be as emotionally supportive and understanding as possible to encourage healing in my traumatized family (friends are family as well).  I'd have to try really really hard not to do something stupid, and I'd rather not get into any specifics of what could happen.




Quote:

RiderOnTheStorm said:
Quote:

Shroomslip said:
Pretty much any answer given beyond "beat the rapist's ass" is full of shit. It's one thing to sit there and say what you'd do, another to actually live through the situation.

Rapists get away with it quite often, yet there's almost never a story in the news about one facing vigilante justice such as having their genitalia removed or being disemboweled or fed to the wolves or the hundreds of different things people say. It just doesn't happen.




QFT. I've been in this situation before.

Had a good plan for how he was gonna get his and everything, but ultimately what it comes down to is the fact that you will most likely get caught and on top of the feelings the victim is already going through, now she will blame herself for you being locked up, and she'll be without your much needed shoulder for support. Then there's the thought of what if she's lying? You can usually tell if you've known her for long, but we've all met psychotic and vindictive women who are unbelievably convincing while they weave their webs of deceit.

Impulse is a fools compass.




I might get some negative backlash for this, but fuck- reading some of this stuff reminded me of this song...


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Re: What would you do if someone you cared about was raped.. [Re: TheMovement]
    #19111279 - 11/09/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

TheMovement said:
and the police refused to or could not prosecute the rapist.  Would you take justice into your own hands?  How would you handle the situation?




I would kidnap the guy, take a log, a nail and a hammer, I would put his left nut on the log then carefully position the nail on the nut and then BAM!!!! I'd break his hand with the hammer.

Truth is though, I couldn't do shit, I'm not a fighter and I'm too smart to do something that would land me in jail.


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