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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: akira_akuma]
#19109752 - 11/09/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok, so the dad lets his unlicensed son cruise his work truck, the kid gets stopped, and the dad loses his work truck, his insurance, and his livelyhood. He had to call the cops.
Also, whoever wrote this article is very irresponsible for leaving out everything about the chase. Even in the main pic of the story, it's plain to see that the truck is smashed to shit.
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Khii Khwaay]
#19109763 - 11/09/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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the cops didn't have to chase him, they could have been informed with chasing the fucking kid. holy shit, thinking!1 WOW~!
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Sleepwalker]
#19109772 - 11/09/13 10:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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setb said: He stole a car, pulling him over was pretty justified. Some people have no respect for property rights.
some people could also care less about life, too. like mainly all of you.
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akira_akuma said: i dunno know about you people, but when police officers start chasing you, people have the tendency to run, if you feel it's unjust.
No, I've never been in a car chase with police. Have you?
What was unjust about it? He stole the car.
the kid probably thought it was unjust, hence the car chase. the needless one that ended up putting people danger and getting him killed. kinda the polices fault too. was he swerving and banging into cars and running lights BEFORE the chase? do you know?
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: akira_akuma]
#19109776 - 11/09/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: too bad instead of letting the kid just drive around a bit, after his car was stolen, the idiot father called the cops on him and in turn lead his son into freaking out and running, causing a pursuit.
you people can't see that? are do you guys just love death and destruction? the kids was chased. i dunno know about you people, but when police officers start chasing you, people have the tendency to run, if you feel it's unjust.
All he had to do was pull the truck over in the first place. Trying to run was totally stupid, he had no chance at all of evading them. A big white truck covered with identifying markings, pulling a huge loaded trailer, in broad daylight. Being caught was inevitable.
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: psi]
#19109779 - 11/09/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes, this is true^ that inherently was stupid of him. only because everyone should know that the cops are gonna fuck you up if you make them.
but the Dad should have known that too. he's more of an idiot then the kid could ever be. especially now.
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: nexxone]
#19109788 - 11/09/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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nexxone said: but was he dangerous enough to unload on him?
what part of 'he was in a mobile weapons system and refused to surrender his weapon' is so difficult to understand?
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19109797 - 11/09/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cops provoked.
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: akira_akuma]
#19109813 - 11/09/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: the cops didn't have to chase him, they could have been informed with chasing the fucking kid. holy shit, thinking!1 WOW~!

The cops absolutely had an obligation to pull him over, and when he refused to stop they had an obligation to chase him.
They could have shot the tires and motor out before shooting the kid, but the blame here lies mostly with the son for being a dangerous fucking idiot and also partly with the father who shouldn't have relied on the cops to do his parenting for him.
This kid has surely played GTA4 before, he should know that if you ram the cop cars repeatedly, that they get out and shoot at you.
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
#19109836 - 11/09/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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question, maybe you can answer... was the kids driving dangerously before the cops got involved? do you know?
the cops had an obligation to pull him over, yes, because that's their job. their job is to be crass blithering morons with no sense of how to actually deal with a person, BECAUSE they have to protect other idiots. might as well just call it the Idiot Safety Patrol.
it's really not that hard to deal with a person, but because idiots are all such bloodthirsty scared fools, police are trained to deal with a person... well basically like how you should never deal with a person. especially if you're their to help. but they aren't. they're there to cull idiocy to where other idiots don't get scared or hurt. if they were smart... they could let the problem resolve itself, and poppy would have just belted the kid when he got back home.
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
#19109857 - 11/09/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This kid has surely played GTA4 before, he should know that if you ram the cop cars repeatedly, that they get out and shoot at you.
That's actually a fair point lol
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: akira_akuma]
#19109858 - 11/09/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It doesn't appear that way in the video, which starts with the truck stopped at a red light. As soon as the kid realizes that the cops are running his plates, he starts speeding.
Their job is protect the public and themselves, this kid was clearly a danger to both. It's very hard to deal with a person who is trying to run you over.
Tell me, how could they have "let the problem resolve itself"?
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
#19109883 - 11/09/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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by not actively chasing him. you know that police chases cause vehicular accidents, right?
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: akira_akuma]
#19109914 - 11/09/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: by not actively chasing him. you know that police chases cause vehicular accidents, right?
I might agree with you if it had just been a matter of the kid trying to get away, but the chase began after he backed his trailer into the cop car and punched the gas into an intersection, there was already a large risk of further accidents. The kid had multiple chances to stop and had to know he was done for when the first cop hit the truck on the campus grounds. Instead he kept trying until a bunch of other cops showed up, and one of them lit him up.
He could have kept it at one star, but he escalated the situation and kept endangering people until he had three. They always shoot you when you have three stars.
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
#19109926 - 11/09/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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^ This. Nobody is saying that they wanted the kid to get killed or anything.
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
#19109932 - 11/09/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: by not actively chasing him. you know that police chases cause vehicular accidents, right?
I might agree with you if it had just been a matter of the kid trying to get away, but the chase began after he backed his trailer into the cop car and punched the gas into an intersection, there was already a large risk of further accidents. The kid had multiple chances to stop and had to know he was done for when the first cop hit the truck on the campus grounds. Instead he kept trying until a bunch of other cops showed up, and one of them lit him up.
He could have kept it at one star, but he escalated the situation and kept endangering people until he had three. They always shoot you when you have three stars.
lol, i concede to your GTA hypothesis.
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: akira_akuma]
#19109936 - 11/09/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: too bad instead of letting the kid just drive around a bit, after his car was stolen, the idiot father called the cops on him and in turn lead his son into freaking out and running, causing a pursuit.
you people can't see that? are do you guys just love death and destruction? the kids was chased. i dunno know about you people, but when police officers start chasing you, people have the tendency to run, if you feel it's unjust.
and the kid couldnt have just said "ok dad, I dont need smokes today"
hindsight is a motherfucker isnt it
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: robbyberto]
#19109946 - 11/09/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yea and even random people can kill people as long as it's some "scary kid" look at trevon martin and now this i also heard of a kid who snuck in his neihbors house thinking it was his because the houses were all the same and he got shot without warning people are just paranoid and don't trust young people(not that they ever did)...
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: lighthouse09]
#19109975 - 11/09/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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lighthouse09 said: yea and even random people can kill people as long as it's some "scary kid" look at trevon martin and now this i also heard of a kid who snuck in his neihbors house thinking it was his because the houses were all the same and he got shot without warning people are just paranoid and don't trust young people(not that they ever did)...
This has to be a troll post.
If you snuck into my house even on accident, I would shoot you too. Ever heard of the night stalker murders? Shit like that really happens, I'm not gonna assume that a shadowy figure crawling in through a window is just some fucked up hippie who has mistaken my house for his.
Trayvon got the justice owed to him, 3x in the chest.
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
#19110101 - 11/09/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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RiderOnTheStorm said: Trayvon got the justice owed to him, 3x in the chest.
lol... trayvon was only shot once
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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
#19110114 - 11/09/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sulfurshelfsean said: Did anyone listen to the audio? The kid rammed a op vehicle, dumped a trailer and blew stop lights. I'm usually all for coming down hard on cops when they fuck up, but this kid was acting reckless as shit. I don't think he deserved to die, but its not like he was just sitting in a car refusing to get out.
Yes, but this was all after the chase began, and clearly this kid was all kinds of paranoid and freaking out, which is, well, understandable. What is clear is that the police were not operating under the assumption that this was "teaching a lesson" and the father's decision here was reprehensible. But what's pretty clear is that lethal force was not required. But this still doesn't add up, IMO. Strange story. Was he tweaking?
The police had no obligation to operate under the father's assumption. If the father thought his son would get a slap on the wrist for grand theft auto, he is a fool. Even if he chose not to prosecute the state probably still would have.
Article is super biased, like Trayvon Martin level of biased. Got a much different picture after watching the video.
It's more of an example of why no civilian should interact with police.
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