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I'm a heartless motherfucker...
    #19109917 - 11/09/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Roommate can't pay rent, we're the 9th and it doesn't seem like I'll be getting it anytime soon... I gave him an ultimatum or else I gotta kick him out on the 30th.

It sucks, if the guy can't pay me rent now, how the hell will be able to make the first and last elsewhere? Essentially, he'll be living on the street.

Business has no soul. I can't afford not to get the rent. I feel like the rich guy making the poor guy's life shittier. Even though I'm far from rich.

It's nothing personal, it's just business... yeah well, I'm not a robot. It sucks even though he owes me.

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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19109923 - 11/09/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Don't blame ya, I'd do the same thing.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19109925 - 11/09/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So you're the owner of the property?


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19109928 - 11/09/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This doesn't strike me as heartless at all. Heartless is him expecting you to cover his share of the rent when you are admittedly not wealthy.

Is he disabled? Seems to me that if he cannot come up with rent it is probably due to poor choices and unnecessary expenditures.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19109939 - 11/09/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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So you're the owner of the property?




Yes.

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This doesn't strike me as heartless at all. Heartless is him expecting you to cover his share of the rent when you are admittedly not wealthy.

Is he disabled? Seems to me that if he cannot come up with rent it is probably due to poor choices and unnecessary expenditures.




He has a job and its obviously either poor choices or him not getting enough hours... He owes me, I know, but I can't help but feel bad man.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19109945 - 11/09/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like a shitty situation dude.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19109952 - 11/09/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh my fucking god... I just got my mail, guess what I found? A letter from a charity asking me to help the homeless...


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19109958 - 11/09/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

How much is his rent? I would figure that with three weeks of notice he would be able to come up with the money, but I don't know much aboot rent in Canada, eh.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19109969 - 11/09/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How much is his rent? I would figure that with three weeks of notice he would be able to come up with the money, but I don't know much aboot rent in Canada, eh.




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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19109976 - 11/09/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you want to extend kindness to him, loan him sleeping gear or give him a bare bones living situation , i.e. a couch and he can only be in the building from a certain time of night to a certain time in the morning. This is if you don't want to just throw him out on his ass.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19109977 - 11/09/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Do you have a backyard, or maybe some woods behind your house?


I moved in with a friend about 6 months ago, told him I'd pay him for a couple months rent with the $1000 of backed bills my old roommate's dad owed me.  This old-roomate's dad is loaded, and always paid me before, so there was no reason I saw for this the guy not to pay me.  Guy ended up not answering any of my emails or phone calls.  I got fucked.

"Friend" I lived with got pissed at me, thought I was lying to him the entire time about having that money coming to me.  When I was at work one day he threw all my stuff in the back of his pickup and dumped it in front of my old apartment. 

Previously, I had asked him if I could at least pitch a tent in the woods behind his place, seeing as he didn't want me there anymore after the 2 WEEKS I had been there.  Keep in mind this was a VERY good friend.  He said no.


TL;DR  It's a fine line man.  I would at least ask him to put together some sort of payment plan, and if he can't follow that then you gotta kick him out.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Set]
    #19109996 - 11/09/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Set said:
Previously, I had asked him if I could at least pitch a tent in the woods behind his place, seeing as he didn't want me there anymore after the 2 WEEKS I had been there.  Keep in mind this was a VERY good friend.  He said no.




Just out of curiosity, in what manner did he say no?


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19110002 - 11/09/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How much is his rent? I would figure that with three weeks of notice he would be able to come up with the money, but I don't know much aboot rent in Canada, eh.




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Hell, if he can't come up with that with three weeks to go, he deserves to be tossed to the curb. I thought Canada's economy was doing well, if it's a matter of hours he could easily get a second part time job, no?

Maybe being kicked out will be a reality check for him. The best lessons learned are usually pretty expensive.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Set]
    #19110011 - 11/09/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Set said:
Do you have a backyard, or maybe some woods behind your house?


I moved in with a friend about 6 months ago, told him I'd pay him for a couple months rent with the $1000 of backed bills my old roommate's dad owed me.  This old-roomate's dad is loaded, and always paid me before, so there was no reason I saw for this the guy not to pay me.  Guy ended up not answering any of my emails or phone calls.  I got fucked.

"Friend" I lived with got pissed at me, thought I was lying to him the entire time about having that money coming to me.  When I was at work one day he threw all my stuff in the back of his pickup and dumped it in front of my old apartment. 

Previously, I had asked him if I could at least pitch a tent in the woods behind his place, seeing as he didn't want me there anymore after the 2 WEEKS I had been there.  Keep in mind this was a VERY good friend.  He said no.


TL;DR  It's a fine line man.  I would at least ask him to put together some sort of payment plan, and if he can't follow that then you gotta kick him out.




It's mid november, the temperature at night are below freezing. A tent won't help


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19110014 - 11/09/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How much is his rent? I would figure that with three weeks of notice he would be able to come up with the money, but I don't know much aboot rent in Canada, eh.




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Hell, if he can't come up with that with three weeks to go, he deserves to be tossed to the curb. I thought Canada's economy was doing well, if it's a matter of hours he could easily get a second part time job, no?

Maybe being kicked out will be a reality check for him. The best lessons learned are usually pretty expensive.




I don't know what his finances look like,its none of my business. I can't tell him how to live his life you know


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19110022 - 11/09/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It's mid november, the temperature at night are below freezing. A tent won't help




Would you consider kicking him out at the worst possible time for him so that his chances of dying or winding up in the hospital are greater?


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19110029 - 11/09/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's a shitty situation. I hope he has some family or friends he can stay with.


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    #19110041 - 11/09/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i would just tell him whats up, something like " hey look man, i don't want to kick you out on the streets but here's the situation"


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: flipsidetrue]
    #19110054 - 11/09/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I already talked to him, he knows what's coming, hopefully for him, he can find cash in time


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: s240779]
    #19110057 - 11/09/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Previously, I had asked him if I could at least pitch a tent in the woods behind his place, seeing as he didn't want me there anymore after the 2 WEEKS I had been there.  Keep in mind this was a VERY good friend.  He said no.




Just out of curiosity, in what manner did he say no?



"Fuck you!"

"You lied to me!  Why would I help you?!"

"I don't want some guy living in the woods behind my house!  I'll get in trouble!"


In that manner.  He basically saw that I had no other option, and wanted to "teach me a lesson" for his perception that I "knowingly fucked him" by sleeping on his couch for 2 weeks and him getting no monetary compensation.


Keep in mind I drove this guy around and to his job for the couple weeks I was there.  I also contributed food.  We were also really tight before he blew up on me. 

Some people have a core belief that they "get taken advantage of", so their automatic thoughts and subsequent reactions are reflective of that core belief.

I feel bad for him now that I'm on my feet.  I hope that I can forgive him soon (I know I will eventually), and that he isn't too stubborn to learn from the whole experience.

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It's mid november, the temperature at night are below freezing. A tent won't help



Oh yeah, true.  I've lived in nice weather for too long I forget that it's fuckin freezing up there.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Set]
    #19110086 - 11/09/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If he is employed he should do his best to at least give you some of what he owes.
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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: ChinChiller]
    #19110141 - 11/09/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry, but this tenant sounds lazy and lame.

If I were truly unable to make rent and wasn't planning to get kicked out, I'd be doing things like cleaning the fuck out of the house, trying to make myself useful. I would be very clear with the landlord about the kind of money I'm making and my hopes to make more in the near future. And, perhaps most importantly, I'd be paying what I could. Without that, this fellow is just digging himself into a hole he has no means to climb out of.

Give him a couple week's notice. Put your expectations in writing. Then get ready to cut ties.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19110168 - 11/09/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Roommate can't pay rent, we're the 9th and it doesn't seem like I'll be getting it anytime soon... I gave him an ultimatum or else I gotta kick him out on the 30th.

It sucks, if the guy can't pay me rent now, how the hell will be able to make the first and last elsewhere? Essentially, he'll be living on the street.

Business has no soul. I can't afford not to get the rent. I feel like the rich guy making the poor guy's life shittier. Even though I'm far from rich.

It's nothing personal, it's just business... yeah well, I'm not a robot. It sucks even though he owes me.

:frown: :confused: :frown:





WTF? Why would you feel even remotely bad about looking out for your interests?

Babysitting him is not your problem. Paying your bills is.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19110213 - 11/09/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You have given him plenty of time.

Maybe he owns something you would like to have, or something he could pawn?


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19110220 - 11/09/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

Patlal said:
Roommate can't pay rent, we're the 9th and it doesn't seem like I'll be getting it anytime soon... I gave him an ultimatum or else I gotta kick him out on the 30th.

It sucks, if the guy can't pay me rent now, how the hell will be able to make the first and last elsewhere? Essentially, he'll be living on the street.

Business has no soul. I can't afford not to get the rent. I feel like the rich guy making the poor guy's life shittier. Even though I'm far from rich.

It's nothing personal, it's just business... yeah well, I'm not a robot. It sucks even though he owes me.

:frown: :confused: :frown:





WTF? Why would you feel even remotely bad about looking out for your interests?

Babysitting him is not your problem. Paying your bills is.




Yeah I know, but still, I'm making his life even harder.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19110224 - 11/09/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You shouldn't feel bad about it dude. It will make him straighten up. If he is jobless and can't support himself don't let him leech off of you. I like hippies, but not hippies that don't have their shit together.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: mindgnome]
    #19110227 - 11/09/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Find better tenants in the future, why did you accept this one?


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19110228 - 11/09/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Quote:

Patlal said:
Roommate can't pay rent, we're the 9th and it doesn't seem like I'll be getting it anytime soon... I gave him an ultimatum or else I gotta kick him out on the 30th.

It sucks, if the guy can't pay me rent now, how the hell will be able to make the first and last elsewhere? Essentially, he'll be living on the street.

Business has no soul. I can't afford not to get the rent. I feel like the rich guy making the poor guy's life shittier. Even though I'm far from rich.

It's nothing personal, it's just business... yeah well, I'm not a robot. It sucks even though he owes me.

:frown: :confused: :frown:





WTF? Why would you feel even remotely bad about looking out for your interests?

Babysitting him is not your problem. Paying your bills is.




Yeah I know, but still, I'm making his life even harder.




No. He made his life harder. You're just not allowing him to make yours harder.

Don't lose a moments sleep over this.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: qman]
    #19110232 - 11/09/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Find better tenants in the future, why did you accept this one?




Even the best tenant can become a bad one.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19110240 - 11/09/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I know where he is coming from though. I used to give people free weed if I got along with them. Even if he takes it personal at first he will realize you are a good person, you just cant afford to pay his living expenses.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19110276 - 11/09/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Find better tenants in the future, why did you accept this one?




Even the best tenant can become a bad one.




That is the truest thing said in this thread.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19110341 - 11/09/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Roommate can't pay rent, we're the 9th and it doesn't seem like I'll be getting it anytime soon... I gave him an ultimatum or else I gotta kick him out on the 30th.

It sucks, if the guy can't pay me rent now, how the hell will be able to make the first and last elsewhere? Essentially, he'll be living on the street.

Business has no soul. I can't afford not to get the rent. I feel like the rich guy making the poor guy's life shittier. Even though I'm far from rich.

It's nothing personal, it's just business... yeah well, I'm not a robot. It sucks even though he owes me.

:frown: :confused: :frown:





Ive been in this same situation a couple times. It really sucks, but I had to kick a family out because the mom was just so bat-shit insane and couldn't afford to pay me. They had a 3 kids but seriously, they could afford cable and to send one of their kids to college, but they cant pay their rent??

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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19110529 - 11/09/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

if i was in ur roommate's shoes i would understand. it's just business, but people should still treat it as lightly as possible. from the looks of it you're doing good so far op, just don't turn into a dick.. btw if you've ever leeched off of anyone in the past you're in no position to judge harshly. just sayin


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19110535 - 11/09/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hope you're going by your local laws, hate to see you fuck something minor up and get sued


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: unknown1123]
    #19110608 - 11/09/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i have a few slum houses and It always makes me mad just to go there and get money from these people. one they spent it all on heroin or crack, two they give me a story how they can pay me next week, three how they pay me and borrow the money back, and pay me next week..

how many motherfuckers do you know /that only have to pay 250 for 8room house? .. oh cant afford heat ..
im sorry, have you heard of this thing called a "COAT".. niggas be like this house is so cold. but they have the all the windows open, and their brats broke all the storm doors...

before I go on a rant. Im out... :shrug:


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: orison] * 1
    #19110665 - 11/09/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was expecting all the left wings hippies to be like "you fucking power hungry asshole".

Turns out, you guys have actually made me feel better. Its his fucking problem, pay me or GTFO.

Thanks guys


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19110796 - 11/09/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)


Mark Knopfler - Behind with the Rent + lyrics


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19110803 - 11/09/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
Oh my fucking god... I just got my mail, guess what I found? A letter from a charity asking me to help the homeless...



You can help the homeless by giving the bum the charity's phone number when you kick his deadbeat ass out.  Direct action, FTW.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19111302 - 11/09/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Today In the city there was these 4 little black kids with an adult and they were asking for money for their football team. I gave one of the boys a 20 and his face lit up. He took the 20 and goes "SWERVEEEEEE" and ran to show his friends.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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