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OfflinePatlal
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I'm a heartless motherfucker...
    #19109917 - 11/09/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Roommate can't pay rent, we're the 9th and it doesn't seem like I'll be getting it anytime soon... I gave him an ultimatum or else I gotta kick him out on the 30th.

It sucks, if the guy can't pay me rent now, how the hell will be able to make the first and last elsewhere? Essentially, he'll be living on the street.

Business has no soul. I can't afford not to get the rent. I feel like the rich guy making the poor guy's life shittier. Even though I'm far from rich.

It's nothing personal, it's just business... yeah well, I'm not a robot. It sucks even though he owes me.

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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19109923 - 11/09/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Don't blame ya, I'd do the same thing.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19109925 - 11/09/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So you're the owner of the property?


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19109928 - 11/09/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This doesn't strike me as heartless at all. Heartless is him expecting you to cover his share of the rent when you are admittedly not wealthy.

Is he disabled? Seems to me that if he cannot come up with rent it is probably due to poor choices and unnecessary expenditures.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19109939 - 11/09/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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So you're the owner of the property?




Yes.

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This doesn't strike me as heartless at all. Heartless is him expecting you to cover his share of the rent when you are admittedly not wealthy.

Is he disabled? Seems to me that if he cannot come up with rent it is probably due to poor choices and unnecessary expenditures.




He has a job and its obviously either poor choices or him not getting enough hours... He owes me, I know, but I can't help but feel bad man.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19109945 - 11/09/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like a shitty situation dude.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19109952 - 11/09/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh my fucking god... I just got my mail, guess what I found? A letter from a charity asking me to help the homeless...


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19109958 - 11/09/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

How much is his rent? I would figure that with three weeks of notice he would be able to come up with the money, but I don't know much aboot rent in Canada, eh.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19109969 - 11/09/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How much is his rent? I would figure that with three weeks of notice he would be able to come up with the money, but I don't know much aboot rent in Canada, eh.




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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19109976 - 11/09/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you want to extend kindness to him, loan him sleeping gear or give him a bare bones living situation , i.e. a couch and he can only be in the building from a certain time of night to a certain time in the morning. This is if you don't want to just throw him out on his ass.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19109977 - 11/09/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Do you have a backyard, or maybe some woods behind your house?


I moved in with a friend about 6 months ago, told him I'd pay him for a couple months rent with the $1000 of backed bills my old roommate's dad owed me.  This old-roomate's dad is loaded, and always paid me before, so there was no reason I saw for this the guy not to pay me.  Guy ended up not answering any of my emails or phone calls.  I got fucked.

"Friend" I lived with got pissed at me, thought I was lying to him the entire time about having that money coming to me.  When I was at work one day he threw all my stuff in the back of his pickup and dumped it in front of my old apartment. 

Previously, I had asked him if I could at least pitch a tent in the woods behind his place, seeing as he didn't want me there anymore after the 2 WEEKS I had been there.  Keep in mind this was a VERY good friend.  He said no.


TL;DR  It's a fine line man.  I would at least ask him to put together some sort of payment plan, and if he can't follow that then you gotta kick him out.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Set]
    #19109996 - 11/09/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Set said:
Previously, I had asked him if I could at least pitch a tent in the woods behind his place, seeing as he didn't want me there anymore after the 2 WEEKS I had been there.  Keep in mind this was a VERY good friend.  He said no.




Just out of curiosity, in what manner did he say no?


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19110002 - 11/09/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How much is his rent? I would figure that with three weeks of notice he would be able to come up with the money, but I don't know much aboot rent in Canada, eh.




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Hell, if he can't come up with that with three weeks to go, he deserves to be tossed to the curb. I thought Canada's economy was doing well, if it's a matter of hours he could easily get a second part time job, no?

Maybe being kicked out will be a reality check for him. The best lessons learned are usually pretty expensive.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Set]
    #19110011 - 11/09/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Set said:
Do you have a backyard, or maybe some woods behind your house?


I moved in with a friend about 6 months ago, told him I'd pay him for a couple months rent with the $1000 of backed bills my old roommate's dad owed me.  This old-roomate's dad is loaded, and always paid me before, so there was no reason I saw for this the guy not to pay me.  Guy ended up not answering any of my emails or phone calls.  I got fucked.

"Friend" I lived with got pissed at me, thought I was lying to him the entire time about having that money coming to me.  When I was at work one day he threw all my stuff in the back of his pickup and dumped it in front of my old apartment. 

Previously, I had asked him if I could at least pitch a tent in the woods behind his place, seeing as he didn't want me there anymore after the 2 WEEKS I had been there.  Keep in mind this was a VERY good friend.  He said no.


TL;DR  It's a fine line man.  I would at least ask him to put together some sort of payment plan, and if he can't follow that then you gotta kick him out.




It's mid november, the temperature at night are below freezing. A tent won't help


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19110014 - 11/09/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How much is his rent? I would figure that with three weeks of notice he would be able to come up with the money, but I don't know much aboot rent in Canada, eh.




525




Hell, if he can't come up with that with three weeks to go, he deserves to be tossed to the curb. I thought Canada's economy was doing well, if it's a matter of hours he could easily get a second part time job, no?

Maybe being kicked out will be a reality check for him. The best lessons learned are usually pretty expensive.




I don't know what his finances look like,its none of my business. I can't tell him how to live his life you know


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19110022 - 11/09/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It's mid november, the temperature at night are below freezing. A tent won't help




Would you consider kicking him out at the worst possible time for him so that his chances of dying or winding up in the hospital are greater?


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Patlal]
    #19110029 - 11/09/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's a shitty situation. I hope he has some family or friends he can stay with.


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: Chairman Meow]
    #19110041 - 11/09/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i would just tell him whats up, something like " hey look man, i don't want to kick you out on the streets but here's the situation"


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: flipsidetrue]
    #19110054 - 11/09/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I already talked to him, he knows what's coming, hopefully for him, he can find cash in time


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Re: I'm a heartless motherfucker... [Re: s240779]
    #19110057 - 11/09/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Da2ra said:
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Set said:
Previously, I had asked him if I could at least pitch a tent in the woods behind his place, seeing as he didn't want me there anymore after the 2 WEEKS I had been there.  Keep in mind this was a VERY good friend.  He said no.




Just out of curiosity, in what manner did he say no?



"Fuck you!"

"You lied to me!  Why would I help you?!"

"I don't want some guy living in the woods behind my house!  I'll get in trouble!"


In that manner.  He basically saw that I had no other option, and wanted to "teach me a lesson" for his perception that I "knowingly fucked him" by sleeping on his couch for 2 weeks and him getting no monetary compensation.


Keep in mind I drove this guy around and to his job for the couple weeks I was there.  I also contributed food.  We were also really tight before he blew up on me. 

Some people have a core belief that they "get taken advantage of", so their automatic thoughts and subsequent reactions are reflective of that core belief.

I feel bad for him now that I'm on my feet.  I hope that I can forgive him soon (I know I will eventually), and that he isn't too stubborn to learn from the whole experience.

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It's mid november, the temperature at night are below freezing. A tent won't help



Oh yeah, true.  I've lived in nice weather for too long I forget that it's fuckin freezing up there.


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