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s240779

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Would a Buddhist ever commit murder?
#19109414 - 11/09/13 08:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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A true Buddhist. Let's say a Buddhist monk gained knowledge that a certain individual was a human trafficker. Would he kill him? Assume that having the trafficker locked up would be out of the question.
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: s240779]
#19109451 - 11/09/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sure. People put religion aside all the time and kill. And many people just beg forgiveness afterwords and still think they're getting into their religions afterlife.
People legitimize things in all kind of crazy ways.
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: Synthe]
#19109720 - 11/09/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im Buddhist , By no means perfect thought
I would kill in a heartbeat to protect myself or my family , cold blooded murder never , If I could I would have by now for all the shit Ive gone through in life
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: Synthe]
#19109785 - 11/09/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Synthe said: Sure. People put religion aside all the time and kill. And many people just beg forgiveness afterwords and still think they're getting into their religions afterlife.
People legitimize things in all kind of crazy ways.
There's a difference between committing murder and killing someone bro.
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: Atrium]
#19109837 - 11/09/13 10:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would commit murder If I knew it would protect to people I love
But never out of my own hate
Edited by Kalypto (11/09/13 10:28 AM)
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? (moved) [Re: s240779]
#19109861 - 11/09/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Sexuality and Relationships.
Reason: Not S&R related.
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? (moved) [Re: Chairman Meow]
#19109869 - 11/09/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol I meant to post this in "Spirituality & Mysticism." Didn't realize I posted it in "Sexuality and Relationships."
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: s240779]
#19109870 - 11/09/13 10:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Look at what's going on in Sri Lanka. Yes a "true" Buddhist would commit murder. No religion is absolutely free of bad people.
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: OZA]
#19109875 - 11/09/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I meant murder in a just way. That's clear from my first post.
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: s240779]
#19109876 - 11/09/13 10:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wouldn't one who would commit murder in an unjust way also murder in a just way?
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: OZA]
#19109878 - 11/09/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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No. Ridiculous assertion.
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: s240779]
#19109889 - 11/09/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So is the assertion that killing a human trafficker is just. Maybe they find the killing of muslims as they're overpopulating Sri Lanka to be just. It's all relative - there's no cold hard line between just and unjust.
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: OZA]
#19109900 - 11/09/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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OZA said: So is the assertion that killing a human trafficker is just. Maybe they find the killing of muslims as they're overpopulating Sri Lanka to be just. It's all relative - there's no cold hard line between just and unjust.
It never ceases to amaze me how backwards some people are. There obviously is a cold hard line between those two examples.
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: s240779]
#19109905 - 11/09/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What is a true buddhist?
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19109907 - 11/09/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Unnecessary question.
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19109908 - 11/09/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Someone who follows the four noble truths and the eight fold path to enlightenment IMO
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: s240779]
#19109913 - 11/09/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Da2ra said: Unnecessary question.
As a buddhist, I consider it a necessary question.
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19109916 - 11/09/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said:
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Da2ra said: Unnecessary question.
As a buddhist, I consider it a necessary question.
Ditto
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: Kalypto]
#19109924 - 11/09/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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There are many different interpretations of the 8 fold path, but my understanding of it means that one who follows it would not kill another regardless of the circumstances. Things like what goes in in Sri Lanka are much like any other faith. Some people actually live the faith, and some people use it as a label or a type of social networking.
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Re: Would a Buddhist ever commit murder? [Re: s240779]
#19109934 - 11/09/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Da2ra said:
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OZA said: So is the assertion that killing a human trafficker is just. Maybe they find the killing of muslims as they're overpopulating Sri Lanka to be just. It's all relative - there's no cold hard line between just and unjust.
It never ceases to amaze me how backwards some people are. There obviously is a cold hard line between those two examples.
To you there is and I admit the same for me, but you need to understand that somebody else has different values; and as fucked up as *we* see it, they just may consider the killing to be justified. I'm sure the pilot flying into the world trade center thought it was perfectly reasonable to do so. Don't take this as me saying these instances are equally fucked up. I'm saying using "just" as the defining word will get you nowhere
Not backwards (resorting to personal flares doesn't set you on top..), it's perspective and the context of the situation. I guarantee not every human would even find the most justifiable murder case to be an okay thing to do. I'm not offering an answer to your question, I'm saying your question is invalid because what's justified to you could be cold blooded murder to the next guy. Not everybody was raised with your values and not everybody was raised with mine. Use a more objective word and maybe somebody could answer.
E: although it seems no types of murder for a Buddhist are justified..
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Edited by OZA (11/09/13 11:07 AM)
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