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Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread
    #19109397 - 11/09/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Okay shroomer boomers, its finally time. I read a lot of articles from the last two years that have shown me the real safety of microdose mushroom consumption. It's finally going to happen for real.

I am in the pre plan and pre grow stages of this 6 month experiment. I will be consuming doses too low for psychedelic effects or short term effects of any kind. I will be consuming specifically psilocybin because it moves the slowest through the body and is far more stable than psilocin.

I deal with social phobias, a bit of depression, and bipolar.

It will be at least a few months until this thread is in full swing but keep a look out. This ones for science.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Yogi1]
    #19109513 - 11/09/13 08:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Agentchewy]
    #19124646 - 11/12/13 02:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Wow that is a really good idea. Let me know how it effects your focus i.e. increase or decrease. Good luck bro. :thumbup:


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: COshroom]
    #19124675 - 11/12/13 02:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19125842 - 11/12/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My dose will be actual microdose, no trippy effects, only enough to be present in my brain. I'll increase the dosage monthly to counter the downregulation.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Yogi1]
    #19126056 - 11/12/13 12:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Been micro dosing the pass 2 weeks as for the effects like 2 hours after I take my .2 in the morning (not every morning like every 3rd day)  it hits me like electric energy in my legs my vision gets wider colors are brighter smile on my face almost like a good hit of bud with out the cloud over your brain. But then I start to get stuck in my mind thinking about random thoughts kind of dazing off.

I would def do it on a day off because after a while you start to get fatigued. I actually dosed today 7am and went to work the drive after I came up was amazing wide vision the colors of the trees looked cool. Then it turned I was thinking about my job what I want to do with my life. Then I was dazing off getting stuck looking at patterns got off early luckily. Now it's only 3pm I'm kinda exhausted.

Really I see it as natural adderall gives you a nice energy jolt you think fast you just gotta watch out for those patterns and getting stuck in your head. Deff borderline tripping


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Yogi1]
    #19126068 - 11/12/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yogi1 said:
My dose will be actual microdose, no trippy effects, only enough to be present in my brain. I'll increase the dosage monthly to counter the downregulation.



I feel that if you increase the dose your gonna get stuck in that annoying place where your borderline tripping but never get over the hill like your stuck at the top of the hill but can't get over Very annoying. And you will get trippy effects colors getting bright wider vision is trippy effects.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Chief Kief]
    #19126140 - 11/12/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yogi1 said:
My dose will be actual microdose, no trippy effects, only enough to be present in my brain. I'll increase the dosage monthly to counter the downregulation.



I feel that if you increase the dose your gonna get stuck in that annoying place where your borderline tripping but never get over the hill like your stuck at the top of the hill but can't get over Very annoying. And you will get trippy effects colors getting bright wider vision is trippy effects.




There will be no dose high enough for said effects.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Yogi1]
    #19126144 - 11/12/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So you'll be doing like 0.1g? 0.2 already gets me borderline trippy.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19126178 - 11/12/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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So you'll be doing like 0.1g? 0.2 already gets me borderline trippy.




I'll be measuring an extract of pure psilocybin and doing a far lower dose than .1g

I havent done enough research to determine starting dose quite yes and I havent determined dose frequency.

The goal of this study is to see if microdosing (not low dosing) used like an ssri can be used to effectively curve depression, increase focus, and increase intelligence.

During this period I will also be keeping a dream journal. I will log dreams 1 month before the study begins and then throughout the experiment.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Yogi1]
    #19126216 - 11/12/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Having a standardised extract helps. I wouldn't know how much to take then. Curious to see what you'll find.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19131406 - 11/13/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There's a thread around here that i can't seem to find that the person found that he had to spread the  microdoses throughout the day. Once in the morning and then 8 hours later. I think that's wheres some  people fail in this experience. I think if you dont get that 2nd dose later in the day, it might leave you feeling tired or unbalanced. However, i think its more important to keep the dose very low if you are taking it twice a day. Probably no more than .2gm,and more like .1gm. Another part of this thread i found fascinating was that after a period of time (im thinking 6 months) that he noticed that it wasnt crucial that he had to take a dose everyday, and that he didnt "come unhinged" like he normally would at work, which makes me believe that the mushrooms have a healing affect, rather than just a band-aide, which i love this idea.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: shaya1]
    #19223154 - 12/03/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

anything to note so far? Really interested to see the results.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: treid2]
    #19223668 - 12/03/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I hope this guy doesn't disappear like the last one.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: krypto2000]
    #19224008 - 12/03/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This thread is a few months premature...

Anywho, nothing is going to happen. Maybe after a while when you quit  you'll just end up spaced out for a while. Microdosing is like ordering a pizza then letting it sit out for three weeks and smelling it every time you pass by. Yeah, it lasts longer but it's still not doing shit but being wasted.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19226519 - 12/04/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I love micro-dosing.
It puts me in a better mood for work.
I usually do 0.2 or 0.3 grams.
I like to take it after breakfast tho.
If I do it on an empty stomach it tends to daze me out a lil bit which isn't optimal for work.
It makes me happy and talkative, which is good for my type of work.
I been doing it 3-4 days a week for the past few months.
No negative side effects yet and I don't think there will ever be.
Psilocybin is truly magical.
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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: keepsake]
    #19354473 - 01/01/14 12:01 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

I still have to set up lab and really structure this. It will get updated but it will be a while till full swing.

I'll state again that this is microdosing not low dozing. If I feel any psychedelic effects then I am dosing wrong.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Yogi1]
    #19355326 - 01/01/14 04:26 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)



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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Jimmy Sage]
    #19356763 - 01/02/14 12:25 AM (10 years, 29 days ago)

interesting that i stumbled upon this thread. i am just about to start micro-dosing with psilocybin myself. i have approximately 6gm of mushroom extract (goo) and 14 ml of tincture (1ml = 1gm)

i will probably start with 20-30mg of psilocybin goo, which i think will be just enough to affect mood, but not cause a psychedelic experience. i have had much experience with the goo, and the lowest doses i've fooled around with range from 50-120mg.

i will post how it goes. i'm mainly using it for depression


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: crispy86]
    #19357754 - 01/02/14 09:59 AM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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interesting that i stumbled upon this thread. i am just about to start micro-dosing with psilocybin myself. i have approximately 6gm of mushroom extract (goo) and 14 ml of tincture (1ml = 1gm)

i will probably start with 20-30mg of psilocybin goo, which i think will be just enough to affect mood, but not cause a psychedelic experience. i have had much experience with the goo, and the lowest doses i've fooled around with range from 50-120mg.

i will post what how it goes. i am bipolar, but i'm mainly using it for depression





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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Yogi1]
    #19357870 - 01/02/14 10:46 AM (10 years, 29 days ago)

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    #19672959 - 03/09/14 07:02 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: livingmagic]
    #19673068 - 03/09/14 07:30 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

OP, just for reference, recent studies have said that the way to cure psychological disorders most likely lies in taking a few large doses that can lead to more mystical experiences. Micro dosing has only really been shown to help with cluster headache as far as I've found in my research.

Recently wrote a paper to my college professor about this so my information is pretty reliable.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: George Sears]
    #19673183 - 03/09/14 08:00 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

OP and others - what doses are you considering microdoses i.e what weight/size? 

I'm interestedin microdosing as well, but I'm wondering what the general consensus for the 'threshold' is around in people who are microdosing's experience?


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: ralnraln]
    #19673834 - 03/09/14 10:20 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

After microdosing on and off for the last year, I've found my perfect sweet spot to be 0.08g of P. Cubensis. With Psilocybin body weight is not a factor in tolerance.

I find this dosage works perfectly as I get the mood lift without the confusion and body load associated with the come-up (and potent microdoses). I have tried anywhere from 0.05-0.3g microdoses until I found the right dose for myself at least.

I do not have a dosing regimen, however if I do take a dose I will not take another for at least 3 days if I choose to dose again soon.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Jimmy Sage]
    #19676449 - 03/10/14 02:48 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

My dose will be too small to be active in mood changes. It will be a very small microdose that will be just enough to alter brain chemistry


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Yogi1]
    #19677723 - 03/10/14 07:25 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

That's the point though, you really don't want it to be apparent but more "behind the scenes" effects. Sub-threshold.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Jimmy Sage]
    #19678139 - 03/10/14 08:29 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

The energy behind mushrooms may mess with your sleep cycle, let us know how that affects you


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: SecretOfManna]
    #19841004 - 04/14/14 12:04 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

One month later... any updates on this??


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: DontGivetheEnd]
    #19841672 - 04/14/14 04:38 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Again no word back. Even though I am not interested in microdosing myself, I may just have to start doing so, for science. No one reports back... :shocked:


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19841686 - 04/14/14 04:43 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

It's because they don't follow through.

Nobody wants to go through with it after a few days.

Personally I've done it up to three days in a row, loses the magic quickly, and gets rather tiring to be so oddly off-baseline for so long


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: drr]
    #19842225 - 04/14/14 09:06 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

I feel the same way about Psilocin.

From my experience, LSD is more effective when microdosing.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: drr]
    #19842234 - 04/14/14 09:08 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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It's because they don't follow through.

Nobody wants to go through with it after a few days.

Personally I've done it up to three days in a row, loses the magic quickly, and gets rather tiring to be so oddly off-baseline for so long




Well, then they should report that! Does it make them lazy as well?


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19842245 - 04/14/14 09:11 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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It's because they don't follow through.

Nobody wants to go through with it after a few days.

Personally I've done it up to three days in a row, loses the magic quickly, and gets rather tiring to be so oddly off-baseline for so long




Well, then they should report that! Does it make them lazy as well?



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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: drr]
    #19842562 - 04/14/14 10:22 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

There should be some kind of penalty for people who start microdose threads but never follow through.


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Universe]
    #19843257 - 04/14/14 12:38 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

I did a week of microdosing to try it myself and i must say that it is
great for when you want to study something or work on solving tasks.
Microdosing also does not show much in your pupils that you are
operating with mystical superpowers.

Now microdosing is around 0.25g, i did 0.35 because most of my smaller
shrooms was in the 0.33 to 0.37g and was easy to dose with.
Be adviced that if you up the level and go beyond 0.5g your pupils will
start to become larger and give you that weirdo looking stare.

Taking 0.35g every 4 hour or so gives me the boost for the entire day,
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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: qweqaz]
    #19843576 - 04/14/14 01:43 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Lol @ anyone thinking this guy was going to follow through. Even if he eventually reports back, he won't do what he said.

This happens all the time. Somebody who just joined the forum within the last year or so is SUPER EXITED about all this cool new stuff he's reading about. He decides he's going to do this or that, whether its building a Martha in mush cult, or micro dosing here.

Wasn't a big hint the fact that he had no shrooms, never grew, and had to "build a lab"?


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Green2whitethumb]
    #19843649 - 04/14/14 01:59 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I kinda deduced that nothing was gonna happen when he didn't even know how he was gonna for sure micro dose. With no game plan and not even any mushrooms in the first place there was no way hahaha.


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    #19843653 - 04/14/14 01:59 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

and then?



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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: qweqaz]
    #20018985 - 05/21/14 07:37 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Just throwing in my experiences:

1st: First report

2nd: Second report

Better if you read those reports before this post.

Iam still doing it on and off, less regularly than before. It has been about year and a half. Cant say that I have a reason not to take it. It just doesnt feel like I need to anymore.

Still cant say about any negatives. If you keep your dosage right and dont overshoot. Sometimes when took too much on a normal day, just felt kinda too colorful inside of me...feelings related, kinda like having a rainbow in stomach..heh :laugh: . Nothing serious tho, just slightly trippy. But I only blame my inconsistent dosage and potency (not weighting).
And when you overshoot, the "random thoughts" come...that kind of a chaos in the head that is usual when having a full trip. So your focus might suffer when you overdose.

So dosage is one thing to be careful for, if you are going to do any responsibilities in the day. There is a very fine threshold.

Oh and best on an empty stomach in my opinion, but eat atleast 1 or 2 hours after that because you will feel a bit "acidy" in your stomach.

And I would say that it may have long lasting effects even when u stop taking it. But some are probably just related to getting used to things that those microdoses help you with doing. (Talking to people/anti anxiety for example)
Although I would still say that there are long lasting effects with memory, focus, problem solving, etc...

The most noticable effects seem to last for almost 2 days, so sometimes just a single dose every 2 days seems allright and enough.
But they are all very very subtle.

I would also say that there are some effects that just get better when dosing consistently. (kinda like reverse tolerance OR very similar to what they describe in nootropics that it builds up over time)

I would very much compare it to effects of nootropics (just from reading experiences from nootropics people), tho I dont have that much experience with nootropics.

But.
I have started experimenting with nootropics about a week ago.
Cant yet say any real effects from nootropics yet(specifically pramiracetam and noopept)
And have been considering experimenting with combination of psilocybin and nootropics.

People say that effects of nootropics start after some weeks of taking it. In this case and my opinion, psilocybin has much more faster effects (immediate in fact), but I have yet to compare effects of eachother.

Too soon for any real reports of nootropics.

BTW: kinda hate how all those microdosing topics just die eventually D:
Any questions are more than welcome!
Just hoping that I set my email notifications right xD


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Neoony]
    #20024700 - 05/22/14 11:59 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

On a second note, Iam heavily reconsidering nootropics as it just seems to give me a brainfog and fatigue, tryed recommended doses, overdoses (just more than recommended dose) and underdoses...no choline, just eggs a lots, not really any difference to note, other than just a bit of more communicative, but feeling less focused..more mistakes at work and etc....

I might try "in some other times" but currently, noopept and pramiracetam seems to give me no positives at all...probably need to do more research on them first..

Heard that racetams (and peptides) respond differently to everybody.
And I just rather feel allright with what I already have...

...sticking to psilocybin in this case so far..


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Neoony]
    #20024712 - 05/22/14 12:05 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I experimented the other day with .3 + some smaller shrooms that wouldn't register weight. Absolutely loved it. Got a little higher than intended. About to down .2g and see how it goes. :thumbup: Good thread and good luck!


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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: ShroomPuncher]
    #20046153 - 05/27/14 09:27 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Everyone I'm busy growing for the microdose experiment. Also, suck my dick.

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Re: Psilocybin Microdose Long Term Thread [Re: Yogi1]
    #24415067 - 06/18/17 12:55 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Yogi, was this a successful experiment?


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