|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: Vitalux]
#19110920 - 11/09/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
sloantbone said: it is stories like this .....that make me THANK GOVERNMENT for making jails to lock fucking sick bastards away like this and protecting society.
Well without the gov his friends/family could just go out and kill those people, instead they'll live on costing tax dollars and probably get out of jail at some point.
|
jolo
Stranger

Registered: 09/26/09
Posts: 166
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: Repertoire89]
#19110937 - 11/09/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Humans like yourself are what's wrong with humanity.^^^
Edited by jolo (11/09/13 03:54 PM)
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: jolo] 1
#19110954 - 11/09/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
jolo said: Humans like yourself are what's wrong with humanity.^^^
Is that so?
If everyone was of my constitution, we wouldn't have wars or prohibition, torture, rape or religion. Violence of any form would be extremely rare and always in self-defense, people would share what they could and never abuse a position of authority.
Yeah, I'm a terrible person and people like me are exactly whats wrong with this world.
|
Pastywhyte
Say hello to my little friend



Registered: 09/15/12
Posts: 37,810
Loc: Canada
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: jolo] 4
#19110985 - 11/09/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Its stories like this that make me thank the worlds governments for taking a harmless plant, making it worth more than gold, so that gangs and psychopaths can do battle over the right to produce and profit from it. All for the noble cause of racism and persecution. I mean we gotta think of the children.
|
c1dh3d
The elephant is BACK




Registered: 07/15/08
Posts: 5,229
Loc:
Last seen: 7 months, 18 days
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19111148 - 11/09/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
O....m.........g.
|
GreenGrassMatt
Stranger


Registered: 12/09/12
Posts: 28
Last seen: 9 years, 5 months
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: c1dh3d]
#19112622 - 11/09/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
The people who did this have a last name spelled Kevorkian. Lol! Don't trust people with the last name Kevorkian obviously.
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: GreenGrassMatt]
#19112629 - 11/09/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
GreenGrassMatt said: The people who did this have a last name spelled Kevorkian. Lol! Don't trust people with the last name Kevorkian obviously. 
Whats wrong with Euthanasia?
I'm disgusted right now
|
xbloodwhipx

Registered: 02/24/12
Posts: 12,791
Last seen: 4 years, 5 months
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: Repertoire89]
#19112832 - 11/10/13 12:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Shit makes my blood boil. Because i know i cant do anything to the fuckers who did this to him, but i want to. Like i would cut off all their penises if i could. If the 4 have male children or a living father, their dick gets cut also.
|
TrentBoyett
Aspiring Mycologist



Registered: 11/29/12
Posts: 16,000
Loc: Kazakhstan
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: Repertoire89]
#19112980 - 11/10/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
LiquidGlass said:
Quote:
foodsgoodtoo said: Trust noone
Who is noone and why should I trust him/her . . .

Quote:
T-Rex said: Damn they took his dick with them. Thats brazen
QFT
Quote:
ElVatoFirme said:
Quote:
Synthe said:
Quote:
LiquidGlass said: the four—including a grower that supplied the Orange County dispensary—planned to rob the owner because they mistakenly believed he'd buried cash in the California desert.
http://ewpopwatch.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/walt1.png
Thats exactly what I thought of. Damn Breaking Bad.
Breaking Bad popped in my head as soon as I read that as well.
Quote:
Repertoire89 said:
Quote:
imachavel said: Remind me never to go to Newport Beach
Never go to Newport Beach

Quote:
Repertoire89 said:
Quote:
sloantbone said: it is stories like this .....that make me THANK GOVERNMENT for making jails to lock fucking sick bastards away like this and protecting society.
Well without the gov his friends/family could just go out and kill those people, instead they'll live on costing tax dollars and probably get out of jail at some point.
QFT
Quote:
jolo said: Humans like yourself are what's wrong with humanity.^^^
The Butthurt Crybaby Thread
Quote:
Pastywhyte said: Its stories like this that make me thank the worlds governments for taking a harmless plant, making it worth more than gold, so that gangs and psychopaths can do battle over the right to produce and profit from it. All for the noble cause of racism and persecution. I mean we gotta think of the children.
You gotta think of the childeren man, they're the future.
Quote:
Repertoire89 said:
Quote:
GreenGrassMatt said: The people who did this have a last name spelled Kevorkian. Lol! Don't trust people with the last name Kevorkian obviously. 
Whats wrong with Euthanasia?
I'm disgusted right now
QFT
What's wrong with not wanting to live in pain? I think it's bullshit that you can't go to a doctor to help you with this, so instead people just end up fucking themselves up even more, then cause people that find them emotional trauma, etc...
It'd be much better to be able just to go to a doctor and fill out some papers and get it over with.
|
Ellis Dee
Archangel



Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 13,104
Loc: Fire in the sky
Last seen: 4 years, 10 months
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: Repertoire89]
#19113654 - 11/10/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Repertoire89 said:
Quote:
jolo said: Humans like yourself are what's wrong with humanity.^^^
Is that so?
If everyone was of my constitution, we wouldn't have wars or prohibition, torture, rape or religion. Violence of any form would be extremely rare and always in self-defense, people would share what they could and never abuse a position of authority.
Yeah, I'm a terrible person and people like me are exactly whats wrong with this world.
You are a human.
Starve you for 10 days, deprive you of bathing and creature comforts for a few months. Put you in a situation where you have to be brutal to feed your starving kids...
You will revert to your true human nature or you will die.
Humans are gentle as long as they have the basic stuff they need and want. But start to deprive them. Shortages and harshness will bring out your true nature or will ensure your weakness is removed from the gene pool. This is the way of life in the material universe. Survive any way you can...
-------------------- "If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do."-King Solomon And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19121001 - 11/11/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Ellis Dee said:
Quote:
Repertoire89 said:
Quote:
jolo said: Humans like yourself are what's wrong with humanity.^^^
Is that so?
If everyone was of my constitution, we wouldn't have wars or prohibition, torture, rape or religion. Violence of any form would be extremely rare and always in self-defense, people would share what they could and never abuse a position of authority.
Yeah, I'm a terrible person and people like me are exactly whats wrong with this world.
You are a human.
Starve you for 10 days, deprive you of bathing and creature comforts for a few months. Put you in a situation where you have to be brutal to feed your starving kids...
You will revert to your true human nature or you will die.
Humans are gentle as long as they have the basic stuff they need and want. But start to deprive them. Shortages and harshness will bring out your true nature or will ensure your weakness is removed from the gene pool. This is the way of life in the material universe. Survive any way you can...
Ha I've gone weeks without food, worked 18 hour shifts with 4hrs of sleep a night usually without breaks/food during the work - manual labor. Taken numerous beatings etc.
Your bullshit about the innate indecency of humans under pressure doesn't even fit into the context of the conversation, but to follow that fallacious line of reasoning I've been put under hard pressure most of my life and have never abused a position of authority, never raped anyone or provoked violence. The cruel, the oppressors of humanity, are not generally even of those who have suffered through the working classes. They're elitists
|
Ellis Dee
Archangel



Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 13,104
Loc: Fire in the sky
Last seen: 4 years, 10 months
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: Repertoire89]
#19121115 - 11/11/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Repertoire89 said: Ha I've gone weeks without food, worked 18 hour shifts with 4hrs of sleep a night usually without breaks/food during the work - manual labor. Taken numerous beatings etc.
Your bullshit about the innate indecency of humans under pressure doesn't even fit into the context of the conversation, but to follow that fallacious line of reasoning I've been put under hard pressure most of my life and have never abused a position of authority, never raped anyone or provoked violence. The cruel, the oppressors of humanity, are not generally even of those who have suffered through the working classes. They're elitists
Decency and indecency are human constructs with no basis is anything but the thoughts of well fed philosophers. Ten missed meals will bring out the animal in most people. Look at hurricane Katrina and the pilage and looting undertaken by the peasants there after a mere flood.
-------------------- "If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do."-King Solomon And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19121162 - 11/11/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Ellis Dee said:
Decency and indecency are human constructs with no basis is anything but the thoughts of well fed philosophers. Ten missed meals will bring out the animal in most people.
And that's the problem with humanity - humanity, its not people like me who have some degree of empathy.
I don't believe in morality, its a social fabrication. Still not interested in rape or non-sporting/hunting violence, in abusing people, those things bring me no pleasure. At some point everyone has a breaking point and will do what they need to do, but from what I've seen of people they're almost all the same in regard to a capacity for cruelty (as a sport). Which is to say I agree with what you're saying.
|
Celestial Traveler
Random Observer



Registered: 03/03/11
Posts: 7,639
Loc: Idaho
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19123333 - 11/11/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Ellis Dee: You are a human.
Starve you for 10 days, deprive you of bathing and creature comforts for a few months. Put you in a situation where you have to be brutal to feed your starving kids...
You will revert to your true human nature or you will die.
Humans are gentle as long as they have the basic stuff they need and want. But start to deprive them. Shortages and harshness will bring out your true nature or will ensure your weakness is removed from the gene pool. This is the way of life in the material universe. Survive any way you can...
You still can't really say that's TRUE human nature, because like being kind and peaceful (which is contigent upon certain conditions such as food, water, etc), unlocking the brutality and savagery within is also contingent upon certain conditions (being starved, emergency). There is no DEFAULT human characteristics that can be called TRUE human nature. All human behavior is contingent upon the present conditions that are being faced.
|
ChinChiller



Registered: 07/03/10
Posts: 3,270
|
|
|
ElVatoFirme
The Thread Killerâ„¢


Registered: 11/13/10
Posts: 1,603
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: ChinChiller]
#19125490 - 11/12/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Errolscool said:

Thanks for getting the thread back on topic.
As for the others, take that human nature talk back to PS&P. Damn trolls...
Just kidding. Ellis Dee and Celestial Traveler both had really great insights on human nature, so did the others.
But anyone know why that dude in Europe was arrested? As well as the guy last year?
--------------------
Did you know the pen Is stronger than the knife? And they can kill you once But they can't kill you twice Did you know destruction of the flesh Is not the ending to Life? Fear not of the Anti-Christ - Damian Marley -
|
Ojom
member




Registered: 10/27/99
Posts: 2,148
Last seen: 3 years, 5 months
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: ElVatoFirme]
#19125633 - 11/12/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/09/us-usa-mutilation-california-idUSBRE9A802Q20131109
(Reuters) - Four people have been charged with abducting the California owner of a medical marijuana dispensary, torturing him and cutting off his penis in an attempt to force him to divulge the location of cash they mistakenly believed he had hidden in the desert.
Two of the suspects, Ryan Anthony Kevorkian, 34, and Naomi Josette Kevorkian, 33, were arrested in the central California town Fresno, on Friday, a day after a third defendant, Hossein Nayeri, 34, was taken into custody in the Czech Republic.
Authorities said Nayeri had initially fled the United States to Iran for several months, and was picked up by the FBI in Prague while trying to make an airline connection to Spain to visit family there.
Kyle Shirakawa Handley, 34, the accused mastermind of the kidnapping scheme, has been in custody since he was arrested last October, not long after the crime occurred, police and prosecutors said in a joint statement.
Each of the four is charged with kidnapping, aggravated mayhem, torture and burglary, with a sentencing enhancement for inflicting great bodily injury. All are being held without bail and face a maximum penalty of life in prison without the possibility of parole if convicted.
The victim was not identified, but was described as the owner of a lucrative dispensary for marijuana, which is legal in California for medical purposes.
He survived the kidnapping and mutilation ordeal but was hospitalized for an extensive period of time. Police said the suspects who abducted him fled with his severed penis so that it could never be reattached.
Details of the case, in which the FBI assisted, were outlined in a statement issued by the Newport Beach Police Department and Orange County District Attorney's Office.
According to their account, the kidnapping plot was hatched after the victim had taken several marijuana growers who were suppliers for his pot dispensary, including Handley, on an expensive weekend trip to Las Vegas.
Handley is later suspected of telling his co-defendants that the victim was extremely wealthy, and they set about devising plans to abduct and rob him.
They went on to carry out weeks of video surveillance of the victim and followed him as he took numerous trips by car to discuss a possible investment deal, incorrectly surmising he was making those desert trips to bury large amounts of cash there, authorities said.
The plot came to a head on October 2, 2012, when the three male suspects allegedly slipped into the victim's home, kidnapped him and the girlfriend of a roommate who happened to be there, then drove them both to the desert. They also are accused of stealing cash from the victim's home.
According to police, the three suspects repeatedly tortured the dispensary owner during his ordeal by burning him with a blowtorch, before finally cutting off his penis.
They then poured bleach over the victim in an effort to destroy any DNA evidence before dumping both captives on the side of a road and fled. Naomi Kevorkian was not present during the kidnapping but was charged because she participated in the plan to abduct and torture the victim, according to the statement.
The woman abducted with the dispensary owner was unharmed and managed to flag down a police car after running for a mile in the dark.
The Kevorkians are expected to be arraigned on Tuesday. Nayeri faces extradition proceedings in Prague. Handley is scheduled for a preliminary hearing on November 15.
(Reporting by Steve Gorman; Editing by Lisa Shumaker)
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: Ojom]
#19126924 - 11/12/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
What a brutal senseless crime, its hard to fathom putting someone through all that. And for nothing.
|
Ellis Dee
Archangel



Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 13,104
Loc: Fire in the sky
Last seen: 4 years, 10 months
|
|
Quote:
Celestial Traveler said:
Quote:
Ellis Dee: You are a human.
Starve you for 10 days, deprive you of bathing and creature comforts for a few months. Put you in a situation where you have to be brutal to feed your starving kids...
You will revert to your true human nature or you will die.
Humans are gentle as long as they have the basic stuff they need and want. But start to deprive them. Shortages and harshness will bring out your true nature or will ensure your weakness is removed from the gene pool. This is the way of life in the material universe. Survive any way you can...
You still can't really say that's TRUE human nature, because like being kind and peaceful (which is contingent upon certain conditions such as food, water, etc), unlocking the brutality and savagery within is also contingent upon certain conditions (being starved, emergency). There is no DEFAULT human characteristics that can be called TRUE human nature. All human behavior is contingent upon the present conditions that are being faced.
I take the position that everything humans do is human nature. Even in the best of circumstances and general abundance humans always try to find ways to exploit each other. Humans are the main species on this planet that preys on its own. That much has to be undeniable.
-------------------- "If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do."-King Solomon And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
|
Pastywhyte
Say hello to my little friend



Registered: 09/15/12
Posts: 37,810
Loc: Canada
|
Re: 4 charged with severing pot clinic owner's penis [Re: Ellis Dee] 1
#19127752 - 11/12/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Ellis Dee said: Humans are the main species on this planet that preys on its own. That much has to be undeniable.
Humans prey on everything, often for no reason.
|
|