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FunkyBuddha
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Buddha's First Grow 1
#19108100 - 11/08/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alrighty everyone,the time has nearly come and I think I've worked out how my anal pubes' uncle are going to go about growing his first shrooms.
I'm posting all of this a few weeks ahead of starting so I have time to receive advice, relay that to my anal pubes' uncle so he can make modifications and purchase anything that he's missing. So please, any and all advice is welcome.
Pubies uncle going to be working off m00nshine's bulk growing for noobs tek ( http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10981397 ) which is basically pf cakes to a bulk sub for either trays or monotubs. He's purchasing the jars and spore print in the next few days and his idea is basically to make up 10 or 12 cakes, crumble half of them into bulk sub for monotubs (pictured below) and use the other half for standard pf tek, that way he'll get an experience with both grow styles and if he fuck up the bulk he should at the very least get a few valid specimens for study.
He has some desk lamps that he could possibly just sit on top of the chambers but unless he's using LED or other eco-friendly bulbs he wouldn't want to run them for very long as they'd use a lot of power and might blow. How do you guys light your sgfc's and monotubs?
The next question is, the only needles he can get in my area are 13mm long (barely over 1/2") so should he try and find some other needle, make my dry verm layer less thick or just get the needle as far down the side of the jar as he can and hope the spores will run down?
Also, he's heard that coir (will be using coir instead of cow manure) used for gardening is usually infested with a variety trichoderma species to benefit the plants so is the type bought from pet stores okay? And as he live in australia he probably have different brands to you yankers so any aussie input would be primo.
Also, he'll be hand grinding the brf from organic brown rice 1) for personal reasons and 2) he saw somewhere that people typically get slightly higher yields from grinding their own rice? (picture of how fine he got it below)
How does one go about spraying/watering and misting monotubs and pf cakes? he knows he needs to mist and fan 3-5 times a day, fanning for two minutes for pf cakes but what about monos? And is a spray shield necessary? If so, what are some common ways of doing it?
And probably the most important issue is, he has a window of about a little over two months (end of november to start of february) in which he can grow but he's going to be out of town to visit the genital wart relatives in woop woop from the 8th to the 18th of December which is a bit of a fuck around as there is no way he can check or alter anything that happens in that time but he doesn't want to wait until he gets back, is there an ideal time throughout the process that this 10 days could fit? He was thinking either inoculating the pf jars the day before he leaves or maybe just after he births them/transfers to bulk but any advice is more than welcome, he needs all the help he can get.
That's all I can think of for now, I will update with more questions and any major events to do with the process as they come up. Thank you to anyone who responds. Peace 
This is the proposed SGFC, yes it looks very opaque but light goes through it really well
Proposed mono tubs (10" x 13" x 17.5")
Hand-ground BRF, is this fine enough?
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i light mine anyway possible, the right spectrum is the more important thing
get a longer needle, there cheap
weather it was laced with trich or not your gonna pasturize so it doesn't matter
misting mono's isn't neccesary for the first flush, misting cakes is diffrent, mist until they glisten then fan once they no longer have that glisten or visible moisture mist again but fan in between this time, no spray shields are not neccesary thats old school aqaurium shit build a sgfc. when you fan it's not needed to go 2 minutes just fan the stale air out(mono's should not need fanning) i would inoculate about a week before i left or now and then spawn them to bulk
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Re: Buddha's First Grow [Re: cronicr]
#19108222 - 11/08/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay, and daylight cfl is where it's at?
It's not about price, I can't find then anywhere
Alrighty thanks
Okay awesome thanks, and I can't inoculate now because I don't have the time or materials, the earliest I could do it would be as soon as everything arrives (shipping is 2-5 weeks to australia) but I there's no way I can delay my leaving if I'm in the middle of colonising or something, so if I was to inoculate a week before leaving wouldn't there be the worry of them pinning in the jars or something? However the way things are going I think I'll be lucky to even inoculate before I leave, so I'll have to see how things go. Thanks
Edited by FunkyBuddha (11/08/13 11:24 PM)
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Re: Buddha's First Grow [Re: cronicr]
#19108224 - 11/08/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dude I'm sorry but STOP. You can use PF jars to spawn to bulk but the tek this guy is describing is waaaaaay out of date. You can do way better.
Watch RR's 'let's grow mushrooms' Pay for it if you can. It's worth every penny and more.
Make 24 - 32 1/2 pint jars worth of spawn via the EXACT METHOD shown in the video.
Use frankhorigan's propper pasteurization tek to pasteurize coconut coir and follow his method for spawning to a monotub. Replace the wild bird seed jars he uses with your 24 - 32 half pint brown rice flour jars.
Do not follow the tek you linked to. You will be set up to fail so hard. It makes me want to cry just thinking about it. You'll be back to this forum in two weeks asking what went wrong and why your grow isn't working.
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I looked at that TEK you linked, and it's gonna end in tears for your anal pube's uncle
Edited by OgreLokon (11/08/13 11:07 PM)
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elasticaltiger
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Read the rules. Spores are for microscopic research only. Remove the sponsors name from your post.
A daylight spectrum CFL is a 6500 kelvin spectrum bulb. Most local hardware and home improvement stores carry them. So does walmart.
This is a link to frankhorrigan's methods. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17897163#17897163
Again, simply replace the wild bird seed with 24 - 32 wide mouth half pint BRF jars made using this method exactly: http://www.mushroomvideos.com/
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
Edited by elasticaltiger (11/09/13 07:01 AM)
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FunkyBuddha
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Okay thanks for telling me the tek was bunk, very glad I posted now. I can't afford to do that many pf jars so would it still work if I just changed the ratios to accommodate two tiny trays made from two and a half or three cakes each? Because I do want to give trays or mono tubs a go but if I fuck this up I don't know when I'll get the chance to grow again so I want to have at least half of the cakes reserved for just straight up pf tek.
And apologies for the sponsor thing, brain fart
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FunkyBuddha said: Okay thanks for telling me the tek was bunk, very glad I posted now. I can't afford to do that many pf jars so would it still work if I just changed the ratios to accommodate two tiny trays made from two and a half or three cakes each? Because I do want to give trays or mono tubs a go but if I fuck this up I don't know when I'll get the chance to grow again so I want to have at least half of the cakes reserved for just straight up pf tek.
And apologies for the sponsor thing, brain fart 
As long as you can build a proper shotgun fruiting chamber that is NOT stuck in a closet then YES you can absolutely change the ratios to spawn to smaller trays. Though with only three cakes I'm not sure you're going to see a lot of improvement over fruiting the cakes as cakes. You could try doing a minimono but even for that you should be using like 4 - 6 pf cakes depending on the size of the tub. If you buy a 12-jar pack of half pint jars and follow the videos to the letter (wide mouth half pint jars, not the tall skinny ones) you could see as much as 2 dry ounces after two - three flushes. Trust me, if you follow it to the letter you will have more mushrooms than you know what to do with. There is no shame in sticking with cakes. They worked great for me for months. The only reason I moved on to bulk monos is because I was having so much fun learning how to grow mushrooms. If I just wanted to trip I would have stuck with fruiting little cakes.
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Edited by elasticaltiger (11/08/13 11:36 PM)
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Re: Buddha's First Grow [Re: cronicr]
#19108364 - 11/08/13 11:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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Okay so just go straight pf according to RR's videos? (Which I'm watching now and god damn they're good, no wonder he's the go to guy
And yeah I can't recall whether or not I bought a 10 or 12 pack of the jars but they are definitely the 1/2 pint wide mouth jars.
Those are cool! And the other thing that I'm worried about is now that I'm just doing pf tek, which of the two containers should I use? The big one is ridiculously big and I have a feeling it's actually big enough to the point that it'd be hard to keep humidity up but the smaller (and totally transparent) containers are only 10" deep, so I doubt there'd be room for 5" of perlite plus cakes plus shrooms so could I use less perlite?
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cronicr said: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18277258#18277258 there's some of my novelty cake grows
Nice.
thnx
use the bigger one, if you build it right you will have no issues
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FunkyBuddha said: Okay so just go straight pf according to RR's videos? (Which I'm watching now and god damn they're good, no wonder he's the go to guy
And yeah I can't recall whether or not I bought a 10 or 12 pack of the jars but they are definitely the 1/2 pint wide mouth jars.
Those are cool! And the other thing that I'm worried about is now that I'm just doing pf tek, which of the two containers should I use? The big one is ridiculously big and I have a feeling it's actually big enough to the point that it'd be hard to keep humidity up but the smaller (and totally transparent) containers are only 10" deep, so I doubt there'd be room for 5" of perlite plus cakes plus shrooms so could I use less perlite?
Use the big one. I used a 100 litre SGFC with 5 inches of perlite and it performed just fine. Bed time now. Good luck!
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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FunkyBuddha said: Okay, and daylight cfl is where it's at?
It's not about price, I can't find then anywhere
Alrighty thanks
Okay awesome thanks, and I can't inoculate now because I don't have the time or materials, the earliest I could do it would be as soon as everything arrives (spore works shipping is 2-5 weeks to australia) but I there's no way I can delay my leaving if I'm in the middle of colonising or something, so if I was to inoculate a week before leaving wouldn't there be the worry of them pinning in the jars or something? However the way things are going I think I'll be lucky to even inoculate before I leave, so I'll have to see how things go. Thanks
Read the rules. Spores are for microscopic research only. Remove the sponsors name from your post.
A daylight spectrum CFL is a 6500 kelvin spectrum bulb. Most local hardware and home improvement stores carry them. So does walmart.
This is a link to frankhorrigan's methods. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17897163#17897163
Again, simply replace the wild bird seed with 24 - 32 wide mouth half pint BRF jars made using this method exactly: http://www.mushroomvideos.com/
Edit yours as well
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Re: Buddha's First Grow [Re: OgreLokon]
#19108561 - 11/09/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay, thank you all for the input, I'll start collecting the materials now and post when get started
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FunkyBuddha
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Oh just another quick question, what is wrong with the tek I posted? Just so I can self-check in future
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It's a bit of a piecemeal of diff TEKs, so going through the whole thing will just take too long. Watch RR's videos, and then you'll be able to know what you should and shouldn't do.
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Re: Buddha's First Grow [Re: OgreLokon]
#19108608 - 11/09/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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he uses the wrong jars for the pf tek also uses the pillowcase to pasturize and his results
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Re: Buddha's First Grow [Re: cronicr]
#19108912 - 11/09/13 02:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, the only thing that struck me as odd when I first went through it was his creepy crawly shrooms and how most of them looked really low yield compared to the other bulk pictures I'd seen but I put that down to natural variation, thanks.
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Re: Buddha's First Grow [Re: OgreLokon]
#19109251 - 11/09/13 07:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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OgreLokon said: Edit yours as well

Lol now your turn.
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Spores and jars ordered And I did get the 12 pack, will update when they arrive.
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Okay so I didn't really get much of a reply to my needle/syringe question, I can't find any needles longer than 13mm, what would be the best way to deal with that? I have a feeling that if I just poked the needle down the side of the jar as far as I can (Which would make it to the very bottom of the verm layer) that the spores should just run down the glass into the BRF. But I also have a feeling that I'm a noob. WHAT DO?
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FunkyBuddha said: Spores and jars ordered And I did get the 12 pack, will update when they arrive.
You ordered a spore syringe right? Not a print?
In my experience, syringes always come with a needle that is plenty long enough for cakes.
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Nah I ordered a print because syringes can't get into australia
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Ah sorry I just reread the first post. Have you tried going to the local chemist and asking if they sell them? That's how heroin addicts get them.
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Edited by elasticaltiger (11/10/13 11:26 PM)
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FunkyBuddha
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Yeah I did but the longest they had was 1/2" "frown"
But I did find an online store that sells syringes though but it's hard to find any that are much more than 1" would that be long enough? I saw another thread saying their 1" syringe was too short.
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Check out this guy's journal https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13066257#13066257
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Syringe needles (18gauge) Location: vet, medial supply store, family doctor, online stores. UNLIKELY to find one at a pharmacy Cost: 20-50 cents each. I tried many pharmacies but none stocked needles, or if they did it was only 25gauge or higher. I called a vet and they had 18gauge that they were willing to sell me. Be creative with why you need them (craft, experiment, etc). Looking for a wide gauge like 16 or 18 helps, as drug users would not want such a thick needle, yet we need thick needles to stop spores clogging. ruckusman: www.livingstone.com.au - they're lab and health care suppliers. They've got stainless steel 14 gauge needles for LC in 50mm and 100mm lengths plus 60ml syringes. plus petris, scalpels, blades, micropore tape etc etc etc
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Was just about to post that I found some at on online farm supply store but I just saw your post and realised that I have a vet like a 5 minute skate from my house, I'll give them a call and see how it goes. Does 'measuring exact amounts of honey for a biology experiment' sound like a legit enough excuse to buy a long-ass 16G or 18G syringe? Or should I put my thought into it?
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Lol you're on your own for that part but it never hurts to bring a 'prop' to make the act look real. In the case you described I would bring a notebook with tables and measurements and a small vial of honey or something I dunno. Yeah definitely get creative. That could be over kill but my parents were Shakespearean actors so I tend to get into it.
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Yeah, I'll probably swing past the store on my way there and buy some honey and maybe some sterile gloves or something to be super legit haha and it'd probably be a good idea to put some normal clothes on and tuck my dreads away, stereotypes and all
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Small vial of honey sounds good then you can pull it out and say you need a needle that is long enough to go to the bottom of it
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Re: Buddha's First Grow [Re: Rubestoad]
#19120209 - 11/11/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think nobody gives a shit why you need a syringe for it could be a lot of thing. Modeling, glueing, injecting fluids, measuring etc. get creative. If you have dreads you are fucked anyway nobody is going to beleive the biological experiment bullshit
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Re: Buddha's First Grow [Re: eLeSDenes]
#19123915 - 11/11/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shit son, ordered the jars like yesterday and here they are it's finally becoming real
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Okay, I know it's been ages but I've done heaps of stuff since I last posted: made spore syringe, made cakes, inoculated and they've been colonising for the last 5 days and I saw the first signs of growth yesterday! Will post lots of pics tonight.
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Okay so here is a photo (I've got plenty more if you're really that interested but I'm tired as all fuck right now and feeling lazy) of the jar with the most progress on day 5 EDIT: Day 4
All jars show some progress and I haven't identified any contaminants yet and everything seems to be going smoothly I'll post new pics occasionally when I see something worth posting.
Edited by FunkyBuddha (12/05/13 03:30 PM)
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Okay, I know I'm being really inconsistent with my posting but here's an update anyway, all cakes have reached 100% colonisation and my first 6 cakes were birthed about 10 minutes ago and are dunking right now and I'll chuck them in the sgfc tomorrow after work. Here's a few pics of the cakes and whatnot.
One of the cakes has an orangey bit on it so I thought it'll either be an anti-bacterial secretion (indicating bacteria) or bacterial growth (also indicating bacteria) so I though I'd best dunk it separately just to be safe, it smelt fine but it didn't wash off. I didn't scrub I just ran it under water and rubbed with my finger but worst comes to worst if it freaks out I can just case it outside and start a mini outdoor grow with it.
I'll update with more pics after I get them all into the FC tomorrow after work.
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Bacteria is gonna build up during your dunk anyway, just rinse well after you dunk
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Re: Buddha's First Grow [Re: cronicr]
#19323908 - 12/25/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay I'll give a good rinse after, do you think it would be fine to have in the same fc as the other cakes or should I just spawn straight outside?
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It should be fine as long as it smells good
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Re: Buddha's First Grow [Re: cronicr]
#19323935 - 12/25/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay sweet. I may look into it and try to start an outdoor patch anyway just for the experience. Plus from what I've seen outdoor shrooms look way cooler (short, meaty and funky) than indoor
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Outdoors is fun and was one of my only real successes, I would spawn it indoors first and fruit it outdoors if your temps are suitable
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Re: Buddha's First Grow [Re: newera]
#19360117 - 01/02/14 06:36 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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So the first six cakes have been in for a week and only a few lumps that I'm not even sure are pins and the other 5 (one more birthed today and is dunking right now) have been in for 3 days so I took them (still in the chambers) all outside for 10 minutes of good strong direct sun and this should hopefully stimulate a few pins I'll update with pics as soon as I have confirmed pins
Edited by FunkyBuddha (01/02/14 06:37 PM)
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good stuff
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Re: Buddha's First Grow [Re: cronicr]
#19360169 - 01/02/14 06:45 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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From what I've heard I should be waking up to heaps of pins But the levelheaded me is trying to contain the excitement until I see results.
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Fuck. Nothing except a shit ton more bruising than yesterday, I think that's a sign of low humidity? This is getting really annoying 
EDIT: Okay so I'm pretty sure that the bruising is because they're dehydrated from too much sun. How much longer do you think I should wait to see pins before I just dunk them again and see how that goes?
Edited by FunkyBuddha (01/03/14 12:39 PM)
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Okay so both chambers got 10 minutes of sunlight this morning (5 minutes each side) and I'm currently sterilising some more vermiculite to roll the last cake in a little while (I blended the vermiculite this time to get a better coating because all of my other cakes are coated horribly because the vermiculite was so coarse And after I give that cake it's 2 hours of watering I'll give both chambers another 10 minutes of sun. I know I'm being impatient because it's only been 8 days but I'm really wanting these shrooms to get a move on
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WHO GROWS SHROOMS? BUDDHA GROWS SHROOMS! I can't even explain the happiness that was coursing through my body when I saw these chubby little fuckers.
Even though there's a lot of bruising (Due to me not misting throughout sun bathing the cakes, only before) they are well on the way to recovery and holy shit the sweet smell of mushrooms is filling the air! There are a few more pins right underneath but I thought I should handle the cakes as little as possible and just let them work their way out so I didn't take any photos.
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Congrats Buddha. It's been a long journey for you. From struggling to figure out where to get supplies all the way to pins.
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Thanks man, I really appreciate all of the advice you've given me. Now that my crankey impatientness has subsided I'll post many more photos of them along the way
But I will still curse the shroomery's image uploading system, it's so damn frustrating
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More pins popped up overnight! And there are more that have grown literally in the hour between me taking those photos and me uploading right now! I'm just so happy!
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So who wants to see my first harvest? This isn't the whole first 'flush' there is about 1.5x this left on the cakes but I've decided to harvest on a shroom by shroom basis rather than 'flushes'. FUCK THE SYSTEM But yeah so this is around 27.75 grams
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So one more thing I'm concerned about, I've read through and seen RR saying that snipping with scissors is the best way to remove shrooms because tearing a hole in the substrate can give contaminants a way in but I feel like I've just left way too much on the cake 
I can't snip any closer without risking taking some of the substrate off but I'm worried about a) those bits rotting and b) them taking up room for potential pins to grow in the next 'flush'.
What do you guys think?
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Use an xacto knife of scalpel to carve off those last pieces? I know it's better to cut but for all my cakes I carefully did the twist and pull and I feel like they all turned out ok. The only time I think it REALLY makes a big difference is when doing monotubs. That's just me though. I'm sure there will be someone out there who says to always cut no matter what.
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Yeah well I ended up just carefully twisting/pulling those bits off and I barely even took the outer layer of vermiculite off so I'll just do that from now on
Anyway, so here is the whole first flush from my first 6 cakes, fresh weight of 82.54 grams (Minus the 27.78 grams from my first trip last night which are the shrooms on the laptop ) and it dried out to 11 grams on the dot, which I know is nowhere near 90% loss but these fuckers were crispy as shit like they couldn't possibly be anymore dry, a few snapped just from me picking them up and I checked the bigger ones just to be safe 
I'm only storing them for about 2 weeks or so before all of my mates are coming round for a big group trip 
I'll get started on writing up my trip report now and link to it here when it's done 
Edited by FunkyBuddha (01/12/14 11:51 PM)
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