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Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA?
#19108051 - 11/08/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have been trying to find this for months, because I have rolled on MDMA a few times and only seen one other person roll in real life, and neither of us acted like the retard scum I am able to find on youtube. All I can find is people that scare the shit out of me. I am super curious to see what a normal, somewhat well-adjusted person acts like on MDMA from a sober viewpoint. I want to compare with all of the things I felt and said while on the substance. I swear to god, the last thing I would do is lay in the middle of the floor and drool all over myself in front of everyone like someone completely oblivious to the world of social norms.
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: Epigallo] 1
#19108069 - 11/08/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Most normal people probably know its not the best idea to post videos of themselves doing anything illegal. I'm not being a prick I just think thathis probably why. Kinda like all the salvia and synthetic weed videos on youtube
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: niteman]
#19108084 - 11/08/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's an interesting point I agree, I don't think I look the least bit "fucked" up on MDMA.
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: niteman]
#19108089 - 11/08/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh, I agree. It's just that for LSD or mushrooms you can find clips of people involved in research or that somewhat represent a typical experience on the substance. On MDMA it is as if I did a search for "retarded person huffing gasoline". I just want to see what the experience means to others from a really genuine perspective.
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: Epigallo]
#19108101 - 11/08/13 10:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Have you never been floored? Don't hate on kids enjoying themselves Lend your opinion if you feel necessary, but don't expect anyone to listen to you (I wouldn't . Based on that paragraph, I'd have my own "advice" for ya ) People go out and make asses of themselves. It's fun. Not everyone cares about seeming "well-adjusted" on MDMA. Why would they? It's a drug for embracing the opposite.
Sorry I'm not well-adjusted, and retard scum 
Were you expecting a bunch of video blogs with someone chatting away, occasionally spacing out? Why would anyone post that in the first place, and why would you want to see that?  People rolling generally look obviously intoxicated if they aren't regular users and/or aren't "pushing the envelope" so to speak.
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: pcplease]
#19108109 - 11/08/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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They're most likely on randomized e-pills and not mdma
most people don't even test their powder for mdma
I'd assume though they look/act normal but just have saucer eyes
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: pcplease]
#19108116 - 11/08/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why would you post yourself acting indistinguishably from a cracked out alcoholic? Sure I understand the desire to dance and be silly, but in a way that is connected to what is happening around you. That's the whole point of public versus private space. When I did MDMA it was extremely lucid, and I was able to make others feel comfortable despite the torrent of emotion with myself, not make others cringe at the near sight of myself in a social setting.
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: Epigallo]
#19108129 - 11/08/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Like when Miley Cyrus smoked salvia?
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: Epigallo]
#19108130 - 11/08/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I FUCKIN LUV MDMA! I mean ACTUAL off white grayish MDMA! It is so amazing granted the high isn't as long as the cut stuff but none the less way more intense if you ask me and very spiritual! I've done a lot of rolling in my time. You guys ever tried white and orange speckled picachu's (Pokemon) sorry for the spelling! Any hoot! Ive seen stuff on these and only these i ate 2 and a half pills wooooooo noice
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: HostileX420] 1
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: Konyap]
#19108139 - 11/08/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Illyabo said: Like when Miley Cyrus smoked salvia?
I have no idea. Nor am I really willing to investigate Miley Cyrus and salvia.
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: Konyap]
#19108143 - 11/08/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Go to a party, yes, that guy overly touchy-feely possibly willing to hug any strangers regardless of previous sexual orientation. Now why did you need a video?
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: Konyap]
#19108154 - 11/08/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I agree it would be a bad idea to put videos of illicit activities on any web site like tube! Lots of people get caught from you tube and craigslist now that's another ignorant one why post on a site and sell illicit material ,its just crazy!
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: Epigallo]
#19108160 - 11/08/13 10:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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maybe you didn't let go as they did.
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: GreySatyr]
#19108161 - 11/08/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Because I have never been that overly touchy-feely guy overstepping comfort zones and it bothers me that all I can find is these stereotypical displays completely at odds with my experience!!
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: Epigallo] 1
#19108192 - 11/08/13 10:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bradley said: Why would you post yourself acting indistinguishably from a cracked out alcoholic? Sure I understand the desire to dance and be silly, but in a way that is connected to what is happening around you. That's the whole point of public versus private space. When I did MDMA it was extremely lucid, and I was able to make others feel comfortable despite the torrent of emotion with myself, not make others cringe at the near sight of myself in a social setting.
You have basically no experience with the stuff. I'd bet that at a higher dose, you end up looking a lot like the "retard scum" you seem to so desperately want to avoid resembling. One obviously romanticized experience is not enough to judge how you react to the stuff. EVERYONE gets overly-lovey on the stuff, despite how they act sober. Your experience just sounds like you dosed very low 
At the "randomized e-pills" comment Yes, there are bunk pills and bunk molly. The thing is, no RC less methylone will floor someone like MDMA can. As for the "most people don't even test their molly" comment, I would argue that testing molly is more important than testing a pill. You can't cut a pill once it has been pressed, and the popularity of pill-reports has made it to where almost every press, every batch, etc. makes its way onto the site.
This is why in areas where both top-notch pills and top-notch MDMA powder is everywhere (i.e. the Netherlands), the powder will always cost less.
What happens when the "cracked-out alcoholic" is all-around more knowledgeable on the subject than you are?
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: pcplease]
#19108217 - 11/08/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bradley said: Why would you post yourself acting indistinguishably from a cracked out alcoholic? Sure I understand the desire to dance and be silly, but in a way that is connected to what is happening around you. That's the whole point of public versus private space. When I did MDMA it was extremely lucid, and I was able to make others feel comfortable despite the torrent of emotion with myself, not make others cringe at the near sight of myself in a social setting.
You have basically no experience with the stuff. I'd bet that at a higher dose, you end up looking a lot like the "retard scum" you seem to so desperately want to avoid resembling. One obviously romanticized experience is not enough to judge how you react to the stuff. EVERYONE gets overly-lovey on the stuff, despite how they act sober. Your experience just sounds like you dosed very low 
At the "randomized e-pills" comment Yes, there are bunk pills and bunk molly. The thing is, no RC less methylone will floor someone like MDMA can. As for the "most people don't even test their molly" comment, I would argue that testing molly is more important than testing a pill. You can't cut a pill once it has been pressed, and the popularity of pill-reports has made it to where almost every press, every batch, etc. makes its way onto the site.
This is why in areas where both top-notch pills and top-notch MDMA powder is everywhere (i.e. the Netherlands), the powder will always cost less.
What happens when the "cracked-out alcoholic" is all-around more knowledgeable on the subject than you are?
Can you really get floored on Methylone? I've only done methylone and only a few times but i never got floored. Both times were around 2 points so nothing massive, but it felt unbelievably lucid. I felt INCREDIBLE, yet able to drive and hold out complex conversation and such
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: pcplease]
#19108218 - 11/08/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I could barely walk the first time I took MDMA and spent the whole time in intense reflection of my life and my most difficult experiences. Never during the time did I think it would be a great idea to run amok acting like a retarded zombie. It was unthinkable to do anything else but devote myself to quiet reflection and prepare to integrate the experience.
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: Epigallo]
#19108248 - 11/08/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just checked it right now they're reporting like once a month and some scrub is giving the rating and uploading info
that totally tells me alot
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: Epigallo]
#19108279 - 11/08/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well it sounds like you had some issues to resolve. Hopefully the experience helped! Think about what your next experience could be like though. Now that you've already worked through those issues, what would be on your mind? Eventually, most/all fans of MDMA have a roll where they feel absolutely perfect. Happier than imaginable- total euphoria, glowing with love and happiness.
Most people don't analyze and calculate the experience anywhere near as much as you seem to like to  It doesn't sound like you have as much fun as you could (some would argue should ) be having.
@yabro Yea I'm sure there has only been one report in the past month  Maybe in the pacific islands- and there wouldn't be as many presses found to begin with
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: pcplease]
#19108333 - 11/08/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I do have issues...nothing debilitating, maybe not even clinically diagnosable, but I have hardship, regrets, etc. I honestly don't think I am over-analyzing the experience, and maybe if I knew more people that did MDMA I wouldn't be posting this at all, but my perception of those apparently on MDMA is completely different than how I feel on it. It's fine though. I have taken a lower dose a few times and gone to concerts, and I definitely didn't act like a freak, because the empathy made me even more attentive and careful not to infringe on any boundaries that would make others uncomfortable. That's why I made this post about being amazed to see the youtube videos I have. But whatever. Youtube is retarded. The internet is weird.
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19108375 - 11/08/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bradley said: Why would you post yourself acting indistinguishably from a cracked out alcoholic? Sure I understand the desire to dance and be silly, but in a way that is connected to what is happening around you. That's the whole point of public versus private space. When I did MDMA it was extremely lucid, and I was able to make others feel comfortable despite the torrent of emotion with myself, not make others cringe at the near sight of myself in a social setting.
You have basically no experience with the stuff. I'd bet that at a higher dose, you end up looking a lot like the "retard scum" you seem to so desperately want to avoid resembling. One obviously romanticized experience is not enough to judge how you react to the stuff. EVERYONE gets overly-lovey on the stuff, despite how they act sober. Your experience just sounds like you dosed very low 
At the "randomized e-pills" comment Yes, there are bunk pills and bunk molly. The thing is, no RC less methylone will floor someone like MDMA can. As for the "most people don't even test their molly" comment, I would argue that testing molly is more important than testing a pill. You can't cut a pill once it has been pressed, and the popularity of pill-reports has made it to where almost every press, every batch, etc. makes its way onto the site.
This is why in areas where both top-notch pills and top-notch MDMA powder is everywhere (i.e. the Netherlands), the powder will always cost less.
What happens when the "cracked-out alcoholic" is all-around more knowledgeable on the subject than you are?
Can you really get floored on Methylone? I've only done methylone and only a few times but i never got floored. Both times were around 2 points so nothing massive, but it felt unbelievably lucid. I felt INCREDIBLE, yet able to drive and hold out complex conversation and such
Yup, you can. For users with little-no tolerance- I have seen it on ~1/3g. For me- if I haven't rolled in more than a month I'll eat a half gram. I have been floored from a little less (more than .4 though), but IMO/IME it's always better to add the extra just in-case. If I come up and am not floored, I won't be able to re-dose to get there unless I take more than double the original dose. Again, IME. Always worth noting that when you get to the point of "flooring" is when serotonin syndrome can happen. Also worth noting that SS isn't very common, even at huge doses; some people just seem to be more susceptible. So don't roll alone I'm not sure how/why anyone would ever want to, though 
@brad It sounds to me like you aren't embracing the love. Yes, it sounds incredibly cliche, but that's what it is. Call it the perfect combination of dopamine, serotonin, and oxytocin with little-no norepinephrine release if you want There are no boundaries; there is no discomfort. I have known introverts who had experiences that sound like what you describe, but eventually they really open-up and get friendly, lovey, affectionate etc. IMO the introverts benefit from this and MDMA in general more than most people can, if they can finally crack those last shells.
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: pcplease]
#19109365 - 11/09/13 07:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yup, you can. For users with little-no tolerance- I have seen it on ~1/3g. For me- if I haven't rolled in more than a month I'll eat a half gram. I have been floored from a little less (more than .4 though), but IMO/IME it's always better to add the extra just in-case. If I come up and am not floored, I won't be able to re-dose to get there unless I take more than double the original dose. Again, IME. Always worth noting that when you get to the point of "flooring" is when serotonin syndrome can happen. Also worth noting that SS isn't very common, even at huge doses; some people just seem to be more susceptible. So don't roll alone I'm not sure how/why anyone would ever want to, though 
Well i'm clearly not taking enough then I've always maintained extremely moderate mdxx use due to the potential for receptor damage and I've never really been sure how high is safe with methylone so I just kept it at 200mg. I'd be afraid to go much higher though, i already feel like a fucking god
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19109855 - 11/09/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe you should not be taking it by yourself.
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#19109957 - 11/09/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: Maybe you should not be taking it by yourself.
yeah this. I couldn't think of a more boring way to roll and I am very antisocial. My favorite way is with a gf or someone close. That way it can be therapeutic and fun
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: Epigallo] 1
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WTF is a "normal person"
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19110427 - 11/09/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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ime people rolling dont look that strange. first is a big smile. you get the eyes dilated and shaking and maybe an eyes half shut rolling back into their head thing. jaw gurn. energetic dancing, maybe a bit of wobble in their step.
i guess you could see some of that rolling on the floor stuff on high doses, but thats just because they are enjoying a wild sensory ride. i think the people who are completely incoherent are on a cocktail of things or just can't handle themselves under an influence.
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: lovesexdubstep]
#19110431 - 11/09/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Kinda like that girl in your sig
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said: WTF is a "normal person"
@jackson Well one thing to keep in mind was that it was designed to not damage/down-regulate any of your receptors. In my (somewhat extensive ) use with it, I've noticed that I could get floored on M1 every week on the same dose. Whereas with MDMA (and much moreso MDA) I have to increase the dose every few weeks (increased required dose=down-regulation, but it sounds like you already know this )
For some more peace of mind- even with pushing the envelope, most people's tolerance plateaus around ~.2-.3g/dose (not per night) with pretty regular use. Hence why dutch/euro pills frequently contain 120-200mg+, which would completely wreck many US users .
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: pcplease]
#19110477 - 11/09/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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When I do mdma I draw extremely well and mutter to myself while doing it. It is one of the most creativity expanding drugs I can think of. I was drawing this mural thing and muttering "this is all for you" and the people watching were probably like "wtf?" but they said it looked sweet so I think they liked it
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Re: Why can I not find a video of a single normal person on MDMA? [Re: mindgnome]
#19112061 - 11/09/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's really interesting. I was thinking of taking MDMA before this acrylic workshop I am taking but thought it would be a bad idea because, back to the videos I have mentioned, the only thing I can remember of MDMA being connected with art was some high school kid who was just going over one line again and again, making it darker and not doing anything else, and seeming very absent-minded about it.
Youtube is a terrible thing sometimes.
I forgot who said "WTF is a normal person?" Just someone who wouldn't give most people the creeps.
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