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parkera26
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Help Identifying
#19107347 - 11/08/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok so for the most part I am new to mushroom hunting but I'd like to think I'm learning quickly. Anyhow there happen's to be hundreds of different types of mushrooms on my family's cattle/mountain land. Up to this point these are some of thee only one's I have came across that bruise blue, I have found one's I would swear up & down were cubensis but they don't bruise blue ;/ There is little dark spots forming on the caps as they dry, The spore print is very dark, blackish. Also I am in Oregon if that helps!
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19107551 - 11/08/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hard to say from the photo, but I think these are Panaeolus foenisecii/cinctulus.
There's alot of active species in Oregon, but Psilocybe cubensis is not one of them. You'll have much better luck looking in landscaped wood chips for Psilocybe cyanescens and such.
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They are Panaeolus for sure, take a spore print and take a good picture of it along with some better pictures of the mushrooms.
If the spore print is jet black than your good to go, you say they bruised blue?
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parkera26
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Ya they did, Would u like me to post a pic of them drying?? I thought they were overgrown heystackers at first but Im thinking they are Panaeolina castaneifolia possible, they bruised very quickly.
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19107708 - 11/08/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you can capture this blue bruising in a picture that would tell me that they are active.
The spore color will tell us which species it is but I am guessing you can not take a print now that they are dry.
Panaeolina castaneifolia is super rare and has a brown print, more likely to be Panaeolus cinctulus.
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parkera26
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19107710 - 11/08/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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They are to dry now to get much of a print but the one I took earlier was black, here they are drying. I can't wait to look for more tomorrow.

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parkera26
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19107722 - 11/08/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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im certain they are active, they are the first in this several hundred acre pasture I have found that bruised instantly not blue exactly, but darkish purple/bluish. There was other little, wider brown ones that didn't bruise in the area.
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parkera26
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#19107764 - 11/08/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Edited by parkera26 (11/08/13 08:59 PM)
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19107830 - 11/08/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes cyanescens blue big time everywhere.
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19107848 - 11/08/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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parkera26 said: also, do the Psilocybe cyanescens bruise blue? I'm finding look alikes all over, you can see the dark coloration through the caps but the stems don't seem to bruise!
Yes, Psilocybe cyanescens will bruise blue (it's in the name) and have a purplish-brown spore print. It's a common trait among Psilocybes.
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parkera26
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: tnj8228]
#19107859 - 11/08/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok thank's alot, I've noticed this look-alike species has more of a flat cap and not so wavy.
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parkera26
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19108315 - 11/08/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19109072 - 11/09/13 05:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It looks like you may have some P. cinctulus mixed in there. Try printing each one and toss the ones without a jet black print.
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19109307 - 11/09/13 07:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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parkera26 said:

Why do the gills look blue?
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: divo] 1
#19109342 - 11/09/13 07:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Probably partially the image quality, lighting, they're old, wrong species maybe. That's why people really push the black spore print on these.
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: divo] 1
#19109345 - 11/09/13 07:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bad lighting, over exposure, cheap sensor, no image correction. Take your pick. It's a drawback of the limitations of having to use whatever hardware is at hand.
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: canid]
#19109949 - 11/09/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol im new to collecting mushrooms, thanks for the wisdom. I do what I can with my shitty phone. The print is BLACK! i will try to get a good one
Edited by parkera26 (11/09/13 11:12 AM)
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19112051 - 11/09/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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5-7 grams dry says a reputable source on here as a dose of panaeolus subbalteatus.
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parkera26
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thanks alot I reccon I found some cyans today!!
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19116720 - 11/10/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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parkera26 said: thanks alot I reccon I found some cyans today!!
Lets see some pics
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parkera26
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ok give me a second, they are pretty dry but they definently wern't flat tops. The spores are black, and they bruised quick, I only found 2. Uno momento
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19116785 - 11/10/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilocybe cyanescens shouldnt have black spores, unless you are talking about Panaeolus cyanescens which doesnt grow in Oregon.
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parkera26
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What should the Psilocybe cyanescens spores look like? When I found these 2 they were already de-rooted, but hadn't been for long (I think a cow did it)
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parkera26
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19116846 - 11/10/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have no photo's of them in 1 piece, but they got my attention because of the dark colors, wavy cap with a nipple.
 
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19116858 - 11/10/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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color varies a little but should always be a variation of purple. Usually dark purple.
Im not sure but I dont think they are cyans, even if they are I would toss them if they looked like that Maybe wait for somebody elses opinion on em.
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19116860 - 11/10/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That looks to be a Panaeolus species, but I'll be damned if I can tell which one.
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parkera26
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: canid]
#19116881 - 11/10/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'll search for more tomorrow & do my best to try and find some fresh ones. I'll post if I can find!
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parkera26
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19116979 - 11/10/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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This article says Psilocybe cyanescens can be found in Oregon! and they wern't on poop they were on compost(spores could be dark/purplish black on these). http://mycology.wikia.com/wiki/Psilocybe_cyanescens
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19116984 - 11/10/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea its pretty darn common too. Its Panaeolus cyanescens that doesnt grow here.
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parkera26
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ahh whoops, haha ;p I have found Panaeolus cyanescen look-alikes all over my damn pasture, but no luck on the real (active deal) I wanted to see what these were because you know where there is 2... There is surely 3.
Edited by parkera26 (11/10/13 08:28 PM)
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19118391 - 11/11/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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A pointer: Stay away from plastic bags. They disintegrate mushrooms before you have a chance to do anything with them.
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: parkera26]
#19122081 - 11/11/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Better photos would go a long way.
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parkera26
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Re: Help Identifying [Re: suchen]
#19122623 - 11/11/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Even is they are active it's minor, I am no longer concerned about them, thanks for the help.
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