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Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure
#19105925 - 11/08/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was going through my dishes & noticed that there's a cyan growing in one of them. I didn't use manure water it's just potato agar let run amok. I had an overly nutritious cube cake I made that I picked the cubes off of today. I noticed it fruited off the cottony part of the dish and with absolutely no manure.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19105935 - 11/08/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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cool pics
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: cronicr]
#19105947 - 11/08/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm no identification expert but those look way more like cubes than pans. They're quite dark for pans
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: bodhisatta]
#19105977 - 11/08/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah... Not Panaeolus. Cubensis readily fruits from agar.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: bodhisatta]
#19106011 - 11/08/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The big ones are cubes I just picked off a cake I made out of everything under the sun. The cyan is the small one next to them that if you look closely they're slightly different cyan's have thinner stems, more bell shaped caps, the gills are darker and if you'll notice there is no veil pans don't have veils.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19106014 - 11/08/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yes pics1-4 are pans
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: cronicr]
#19106022 - 11/08/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Violet said: Yeah... Not Panaeolus. Cubensis readily fruits from agar.
Just because you've never seen pan doesn't mean it's not pan.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19106033 - 11/08/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The cubes on agar and in the jar are for comparison there was only one pan growing on the agar.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19106041 - 11/08/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yep pans don't require manure,, they just like it
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19106046 - 11/08/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Violet said: Yeah... Not Panaeolus. Cubensis readily fruits from agar.
Just because you've never seen pan doesn't mean it's not pan.
How would you know I've never seen one? You guessed wrong...
Is picture 5 the mushroom from the plate pictured before?
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: cronicr]
#19106057 - 11/08/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess they will fruit directly from grain they're just much smaller than if you use the nitrogen, I thought it was pretty cool and I'm gonna eat that sucker in a couple of hours.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: Violet] 1
#19106091 - 11/08/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Violet said: Yeah... Not Panaeolus. Cubensis readily fruits from agar.
Just because you've never seen pan doesn't mean it's not pan.
How would you know I've never seen one? You guessed wrong...
because you said Yeah... Not Panaeolus.
Is picture 5 the mushroom from the plate pictured before?
All of the first 5 pictures show the cyan, two have it on the plate with the cubes I just picked and I said I just picked the cubes from my overly nutritious cake I made. The cyan is on the agar then I picked it and put on the plate.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19106154 - 11/08/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ya, that's exactly what I thought, pic 5 supposedly being Pan. That red-orangeish cap... Cubensis.
Remember that Cube veils can vary greatly. I have several that don't form veils, or hardly. Besides, it sorta looks like it may have veil remnant, pic 1 of the 2nd post with photos
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19106180 - 11/08/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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memberjockey said: I thought it was pretty cool and I'm gonna eat that sucker in a couple of hours.
Please don't. You have great genetics if you got a pan to fruit from agar. Clone that sucker......
p.s. Is that bisporus?
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: MacMerdin]
#19106271 - 11/08/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is picture 5 the mushroom from the plate pictured before?
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memberjockey said: I thought it was pretty cool and I'm gonna eat that sucker in a couple of hours.
Please don't. You have great genetics if you got a pan to fruit from agar. Clone that sucker......
p.s. Is that bisporus?
It's Hawaiian. The bisporus always turns gray on agar or at least mine has. The top right plate that's gray is the bisporus, it's been the strangest thing I've seen yet. It turns the substrate dark purple to black with dark gray turning white on the top. It looks like it's contaminated but it's not.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19106289 - 11/08/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do I just take a piece from the inside of the stem and drop it on agar? I haven't cloned anything yet.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19106300 - 11/08/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yep thats about it
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19106313 - 11/08/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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memberjockey said: it's been the strangest thing I've seen yet.
Have you tried cinctulus yet? They grow blue/green and black sclerotia that can look like the mean green and the mycelium looks like cobweb mold.
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At one point, they considered most pan species as a contaminate.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: MacMerdin]
#19106403 - 11/08/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No but that sounds very interesting I've been wanting to try to grow some sclerotia.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19106493 - 11/08/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You wouldn't want to grow cinctulus for the sclerotia. They are just tiny little balls that are not worth anything. My biggest ones so far have been about a centimeter in length and a milimeter in diameter.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: MacMerdin]
#19106513 - 11/08/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have several different sizes cakes of pan made with manure, I didn't use any vermiculite on the top just a filter so I could shake them. One or 2 are just now about a week past colonization. I realize it's not popular to use the larger jars, they colonized as fast as the small ones.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: MacMerdin]
#19106535 - 11/08/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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How can you tell them apart from contamination? I've got something growing in a jar of rye.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19106539 - 11/08/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19106542 - 11/08/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19106565 - 11/08/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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memberjockey said: How can you tell them apart from contamination? I've got something growing in a jar of rye.
I've had two pins so far. So at least something was cinctulus mycelium. lol. For some reason, I have yet to get anything else even though cints are supposedly easy to fruit... 
My recent trial, I put a layer of grass seed down in one and then cased it. Another one, I put grass seed on top of the casing.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: MacMerdin]
#19110157 - 11/09/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here's a picture of my cyan dish that had the mushroom growing in it which btw I think is Red Spore Mutant and not Hawaiian I've circled the area that is characteristic of cyan and as you can see it does have rhizomorphic growth in addition to cottony, that's just vermiculite on the top of the dish.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19110173 - 11/09/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You seem unsure as to exactly which Pan you think it is. Why, then, are you so sure it is a Pan at all, when it looks exactly like the kind of Cubensis fruits that frequently show up on agar?
The area you circled is indeed "characteristic of cyan", but note it's less than a quarter of the dish, and on much of the rest is rhizomorphic which Pan is known to not form. For that matter, Cubensis is just as often equally tomentose.
Do a grow-out from that plate, it'll settle the matter
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: Violet]
#19110335 - 11/09/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The only thing I was unsure is weather it was RSM or Hawaiian, YOU are the one who seems to be unsure of what your talking about.
        
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19110415 - 11/09/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm entirely sure of what I'm talking about. There's no point in being edgy to me when this the truth is assuredly found by growing it out. You are unsure of what it is anyway, so I'd want to know if I were you. After all, the very reason for this thread is how unlikely Pan is to fruit like that on potatoes...
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: Violet]
#19110448 - 11/09/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not edgy just pointing out that you're wrong.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19110455 - 11/09/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Please post your pictures.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19110464 - 11/09/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19110544 - 11/09/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also did I fail to mention that over 90% of my plates are some type of cyan since that's my shroom of choice I grow more cyan's than cubes.
 Not that I don't like cubes too but I prefer the cyan's.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19110557 - 11/09/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The reason for the thread was that it did fruit on potato agar not that is was unlikely because we already knew it was unlikely.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19110558 - 11/09/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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memberjockey said: Also did I fail to mention that over 90% of my plates are some type of cyan since that's my shroom of choice I grow more cyan's than cubes.
 Not that I don't like cubes too but I prefer the cyan's. 
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: bodhisatta]
#19110769 - 11/09/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks here are a few more dishes of cyan.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19110776 - 11/09/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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y do you let the plates grow out so much?
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: cronicr]
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: PussyFart]
#19111054 - 11/09/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Because I have too many dishes and I haven't had any problems with letting them go to the edge smart ass.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19111092 - 11/09/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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These and the previous pics are some of the original dishes I transferred from.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19111113 - 11/09/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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memberjockey said: Because I have too many dishes and I haven't had any problems with letting them go to the edge smart ass.

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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: gt40]
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i cant believe i missed that the first time lol
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19111138 - 11/09/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've had very little contamination and I use the whole plate. When I do have it it's pretty easy to spot.
 
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: gt40]
#19111152 - 11/09/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You haven't seen my poon tang thread?
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19111174 - 11/09/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have and when i was browsing that area of the forum I was looking for sexy. Over here im looking at the sexy myc so i missed the mirror shot.
Somehow its hotter when its unexpected ?
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: Rubestoad]
#19112158 - 11/09/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rubestoad said: I have and when i was browsing that area of the forum I was looking for sexy. Over here im looking at the sexy myc so i missed the mirror shot.
Somehow its hotter when its unexpected ? 
yea jesus christ. I looked through memberjockey's gallery after seeing the mirror shot and now I'm pretty sure I know my favorite cultivator on the OMC
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: bodhisatta]
#19112610 - 11/09/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19119721 - 11/11/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not an expert by any means but I have grown a few mushrooms and a combo of the cyans and cubes make for the best trip ever & I've been experimenting with not just the agar but the grains, cakes, substrates, containers, fruiting and harvesting. That being said here is a picture of some of the containers of cyan I have currently growing this is 3 of the bisporus and one of the hawiian if you look closely against the container you can see the rhizomorhic growth & you can see the dark purple the bisporus turned the bottom or the substrate.

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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19119746 - 11/11/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I put the dish in a FC and plumped it up a bit & I cooked some rye last night to not only transfer some of it to new dishes but I'm going to put some into a jar or 2 of rye.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19119766 - 11/11/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The top and the underneath of my cube cake actually it's the underneath and the top is down under.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19119792 - 11/11/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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today is day 8.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19119808 - 11/11/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19120740 - 11/11/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was taking one last photo of my dish before I cut it up and noticed there is another mushroom growing in it should I wait for it to grow or just cut it up into another dish? I think I'll just cut the piece out with the mushroom.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19120812 - 11/11/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was also looking for some more dishes to use since I have 9 jars and that one dish won't be enough and I found 2 more dishes with mushrooms growing in them. I'll let you guys guess what they are including the first dish and we'll watch and see.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19120823 - 11/11/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe because I let my dishes go to the edge & further is why they're growing on agar that and genetics and no other reason.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19125794 - 11/12/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I found a full grown flat topped cyan growing in one of the original jars of agar I made and used a spore syringe. Is there any doubt now that this is indeed a pan growing on potato agar? I guess it's not that uncommon you just need to keep your old agar dishes.
   Another one that hasn't flat topped yet so that's 3 dishes that are for sure cyan. If you look into the bottom of this jar you can see the same type of mycelium growing as the area I circled on the dish.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19125976 - 11/12/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I found a couple more cyan's so that's 5 I'm making agar today to transfer some of these dishes though I did on some I'll transfer what's left of it to another dish.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19126003 - 11/12/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That is pretty amazing. Nice work! 
So these are no-pour PDA jars which you have taken wedges from?
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: Pestile]
#19126040 - 11/12/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The first pan I found was in a dish. In the beginning I didn't have any dishes so I used jars when I was ready to use them I turned them upside down and cracked them enough to pour out the tiny bit of condensation that had collected inside then either hit it with a syringe, print or transferred a wedge, I had zero contamination with the jars compared with very little contamination with the dishes. The first few were started with a syringe except the cube, bisporus and Hawaiian were prints.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19141292 - 11/15/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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One of the fruiting dishes has dropped it's spores onto the agar so I just cut up the agar and transferred them to a new dish along with a few of the other's that had fruited. The last pic is the original dish plumped up and it's been cut up and transferred as well.
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What do you make of these? I cut the cap off one to make a print and look at the stem it's almost black.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19141556 - 11/15/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks like spores to me I usually print my caps sooner than most people as I find that a lot have dropped by the time the veil completely tears and the cap starts to flatten.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19142033 - 11/15/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It hadn't dropped any spores until after I handled them, look at them again.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19142056 - 11/15/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here are 2 pics from other growers one is on the shroomery are they similar? other than the thicker stems?
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145483 - 11/16/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here are some pictures from free spores.

Here is the fruiting dish of potato agar with ryzomorphic growth.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145503 - 11/16/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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those are cubes
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145514 - 11/16/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The underneath of my giant cube and a cube and cyan cap side by side.

You can see the difference in not only the gills and gill color but where it's been cut is also different as it should be.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145523 - 11/16/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're saying that the picture from free sprores.com are cubes? you can see the gills are not the same on the pan as on cubes.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145535 - 11/16/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The pictures from free spores are pan cyan Hawaiian not cubes.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145539 - 11/16/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The ones on the agar, looks like purple spores and the stem does not look like pan.
I know the cap doesn't look quite rite but that could be it didn't get sun baked. The color of the spores will tell you.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#19145560 - 11/16/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It spored black and you don't need the spores you can look at the gills.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145572 - 11/16/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do the gills on the 2 caps look alike? A cube is a cube and the gills will still be the same.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#19145591 - 11/16/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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What about it doesn't look like pan to you?
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145609 - 11/16/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Everything... they just look wrong.
But if the print is black, it is pan.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145621 - 11/16/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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These are from the shroomery and online the first is a cube the rest are cyans.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145631 - 11/16/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Indeed I see what you are saying.
They are definitely pan., nice work btw.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#19145632 - 11/16/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Please be more specific. I've shown you the gills of both a cube and pan from not only a sponsor but from other growers on the shroomery please tell me exactly what is not right, remember the one on agar won't get as big but you can see now it's pan.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#19145638 - 11/16/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks it's taking me lots and lots of work.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19145773 - 11/16/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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This picture plus you telling me spore print was black tells me pan. for sure.
The cap is dark on the top, and it is split which is not common for Pan. The stems are dark and fiberous looking with slightly bulbous bases. Pan. copelandia is usually pearl white, uniform from base to cap, and brittle.
You have some strange morphological characteristics..
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#19146029 - 11/16/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have had light brown cyans before, if you read Paul Stamets Psilobcybin Mushrooms of the World on page 75 under Panaeolus Cyanescens Cap: Cap cracking horizontally in age with irregular fractures and in drying.
Also I think how it's grown also affects how it looks.
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19149738 - 11/17/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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My uncased cyans and the agar dish I picked all on this cake except for these last two to show what they turned into after a couple more days some have very stocky stems. I ate a few last night they're very bitter but not unpleasant you it sneaks up on you, you don't feel anything then bam you notice how intense the colors are. I don't know about anybody else but pan speaks to me and when it does I listen.

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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: Violet]
#19151159 - 11/17/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Pan Cyan growing in agar dish w/no manure [Re: memberjockey]
#19151426 - 11/17/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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mj you have some awesome shots there, keep up the good work
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