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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19110542 - 11/09/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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and the kid couldnt have just said "ok dad, I dont need smokes today"




Exactly! And getting himself into that situation over cigarettes makes him a degenerate moron.


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Uzziel]
    #19110545 - 11/09/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Some of the arguments I'm seeing in this thread are seriously hurting my head.. I can only hope they're troll responses..

"The dad shoulda just let him take the truck and do whatever he wanted."
"It's the cops fault, they shouldn't have even began to chase him and just let him do whatever he wanted."
"Dad shoulda just bought him the cigs. If he wanted them he was going to get them anyways."

:doublefacepalm:


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
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I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19110555 - 11/09/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:

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Uzziel said:
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Maverick said:

It's more of an example of why no civilian should interact with police.





really, so dad should just let the little fuck take the truck, wreck it and
maybe kill a few people without ever calling the cops, then after little tard
boy bolts the cops are at daddy's house to arrest daddy for vehicular
homicide and leaving the scene


you're right, people shouldnt report rapes, robbery, murder and child molestation

because, you know... cops and stuff





He would of never did that crazy shit if the police weren't after him though.




you cant say that. plenty of people do crazy shit when the cops arent
after him, the cops never hit the sirens until he started running, all the
boy had to do was stop and pull off to the side of the road instead of
running put instead he posed a serious danger to the public and then to the
cops trying to arrest him and he wasnt shot until the cops were out of
their cars, trying to approach the truck and he once more plowed into one
of the cars... that in it's self is an attempt to kill someone


the kid stole a truck because someone didnt want to buy them smokes, what kind of logic are you using to assume that this kid wouldnt have done some stupid shit if the cops weren't there




point in case...


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #19110578 - 11/09/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:
"Dad shoulda just bought him the cigs. If he wanted them he was going to get them anyways."

:doublefacepalm:




You act like the kid couldn't go up to one of his 18 year old friends and just got them to buy them for him and offer him a smoke for doing it. You must of not had a lot of friends in high school if you think tobacco is hard for kids to get.

If a kid is going to do something, they are going to go do it regardless of their parents approval.


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Uzziel] * 1
    #19110596 - 11/09/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

By that logic parents should be buying their junky kids heroin.. Just because "they're going to do it regardless" doesn't mean you have to feed into that behavior or be responsible for perpetuating it.

Furthermore when my kid acts like a spoiled brat because he's not getting his way, the last thing I do is give him what he wanted.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #19110605 - 11/09/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Dude... its tobacco, not heroin. Heroin isn't walking all over everywhere in high school like weed, booze and tobacco is.

It isn't even close to the same kind of logic. Its called damage control. You're just like my parents closing their eyes saying NANANANANANANANANANA CANT HEAR YOU. I'd rather know what my kid is doing instead of doing it behind my back. Your kid is going to do it regardless to, saying no to your kid just means they go elsewhere for it.

You can lie to yourself... w/e... I don't care.


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Uzziel] * 2
    #19110616 - 11/09/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm lying to myself because I don't believe in just letting my kid do whatever he wants because "he's going to do it regardless".

Sorry, I actually believe in being a parent, not just a sperm donor.

And you're right, he probably will end up doing it at some point, and I'll be right there to let him know it's not okay and I won't tolerate it.

I sure as fuck wish someone had stopped (or at least tried to stop) me from smoking, instead my grandparents bought me cigs when I was only 13. I wasn't able to kick the habit til last year and I still constantly crave them.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #19110669 - 11/09/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:
I'll be right there to let him know it's not okay and I won't tolerate it.





Yeah... I was waiting for this. It aint about your kid... its about you. Go ahead.. push your kid away just like my parents did to me.

I'm not saying to just let him do whatever he wants, I'm saying that if the kid has his mindset stuck.. you can only help them work through it and try and provide alternatives and educate them, getting mad at your kid will make them mad and escalate an unnecessary situation (this thread for instance...)

Saying NO I DON'T TOLERATE IT won't change shit FFS....


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Shroomslip]
    #19110678 - 11/09/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yes, the kid just "has problems" and wasn't provoked in any way, shape, or form, into becoming problematic... he just WAS. because nothing. that's it.

it's all the universe just creating a problem... out of nowhere... :rolleyes:

if the kid was so problematic, why wait for a problem with him and his lack of cigarettes? why not just send him to bootcamp, if he's such a problem child?

well, again, it's the dads fault. for raising a problem child, and not fixing any problems.

i mean, it's all about these things that just "happened" and couldn't be helped.

oh lord. :facepalm: Murica.


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Blindtheeye]
    #19110680 - 11/09/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I do feel like they probably could have pinned the car and pulled him out.  Had that failed however, then he was truly a risk to the public.  I feel the cop could justify his actions.  I probably would have tried to get him out of the car without killing him tho.





seems they tried just that and he wasnt having any of it


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Uzziel]
    #19110684 - 11/09/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Not tolerating it doesn't mean pushing your kid away, it means you're not just going to accept your 13 year old kid is smoking a pack a day and throw your hands up in the air and go "Oh well what can I do."

You're making a lot of (unfounded) assumptions based solely on your parents performance of parenting..


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Shroomslip]
    #19110693 - 11/09/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Not tolerating it doesn't mean pushing your kid away, it means you're not just going to accept your 13 year old kid is smoking a pack a day and throw your hands up in the air and go "Oh well what can I do."

You're making a lot of (unfounded) assumptions based solely on your parents performance of parenting..




So what would you do then? Say NOPE? Ground the kid for a week? Take away his privileges? Not let him hang out with certain people?

How would you deal with it, exactly? How would you deal with a kid who wouldn't stop smoking when you said everything you wanted to say?

Cuz you sure as hell are sounding just like my parents. I'm speaking from experience, and while experiences may vary, I can't help but say what I lived through.


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Uzziel] * 1
    #19110708 - 11/09/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I can't say for sure because I'm not in that situation. I just know I'm not going to throw my hands up in the air, give up and go buy my kid cigarettes so he won't steal my car and get himself shot.

There would be some kind of punishment involved eventually if he kept pushing it. Sorry, if you resent your parents for punishing you. Maybe some day you'll have kids and see it's just part of the job as a parent, or are you planning on just letting them do whatever the hell they want just so they don't grow up to 'hate you'?

If that's your plan, please don't have kids. I'm sick of seeing little spoiled brats EVERYWHERE who scream at the top of their lungs and slap their parents in the face because they won't buy them the new toy they just have to have or take them to McDonald's and let them gorge themselves on junk. I'm tired of neutered adults who just let their kids run amok because they refuse to actually PARENT.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


Edited by Shroomslip (11/09/13 02:45 PM)


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #19110712 - 11/09/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Maverick said:

It's more of an example of why no civilian should interact with police.





really, so dad should just let the little fuck take the truck, wreck it and
maybe kill a few people without ever calling the cops, then after little tard
boy bolts the cops are at daddy's house to arrest daddy for vehicular
homicide and leaving the scene


you're right, people shouldnt report rapes, robbery, murder and child molestation

because, you know... cops and stuff




I'll put my money on he would have driven the speed limit and stopped at the stop signs (like he was doing before two cops pulled behind him) had he not been pursued by police.  I could be wrong, but it sure seemed like the police pulling up behind and to the side of him were what caused him to speed off.  If I'm not mistaken he was at a stop light even, stopped with traffic.


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Shroomslip]
    #19110717 - 11/09/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i remember back in the day when they use to chase you till they pinned you or flipped the car over and would proceed to pull you out the window and beat the shit out of you. now it seems they how no patience for that and prefer to shoot rounds at your vehicle to end it quickly. what if there were pedestrians around, they could have killed someone too. oh wait, they did..


the kid, the dad, the police, everybody fucked up. it's a tragedy.


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: zZZz] * 1
    #19110723 - 11/09/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

To be fair the kid almost ran over a student near the booth when he was in reverse going through the grass.  The kid became a risk to the public and was properly put down.  However he probably would have never become that risk had his idiot father just waited for him to come home and taken a leather belt to his ass.


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Maverick]
    #19110750 - 11/09/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I can't say for sure because I'm not in that situation. I just know I'm not going to throw my hands up in the air, give up and go buy my kid cigarettes so he won't steal my car and get himself shot.

There would be some kind of punishment involved eventually if he kept pushing it. Sorry, if you resent your parents for punishing you. Maybe some day you'll have kids and see it's just part of the job as a parent, or are you planning on just letting them do whatever the hell they want just so they don't grow up to 'hate you'?

If that's your plan, please don't have kids. I'm sick of seeing little spoiled brats EVERYWHERE who scream at the top of their lungs and slap their parents in the face because they won't buy them the new toy they just have to have or take them to McDonald's and let them gorge themselves on junk. I'm tired of neutered adults who just let their kids run amok because they refuse to actually PARENT.




I'm talking about damage control dude, not outright buying him shit because he wants it. I've already said that. If your kid keeps coming home with cigs and reeks of cigs... its obvious he has access to them regardless of your wishes. If he wants cigs, I'd buy my son some with his earned money, not mine. He can get them one way or the other. Just like I'd let my kid drink because I know what its like to be a teen...they all have easy access getting tobacco, booze and weed, just a call away.

But It doesn't mean I'm not gonna give my kid shit for it...but I'm also not gonna be the parent that goes NANANANA CANT HEAR YOU though...fuck that.


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Uzziel]
    #19110755 - 11/09/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Blindtheeye]
    #19110765 - 11/09/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This is no doubt a super sad story, and I hate hearing about (young) people getting killed by the police for any reason. But what some of you don't realize, the incident happened close to ISU's campus. The police had to do what they had to stop the kid before he harmed anybody else, it was a miracle he scraped through that intersection without crashing into anybody. Not even to mention how he backed into that police cruiser. It's unfortunate how such a seemingly minor issue can escalate so quickly and have such deadly consequences.


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Re: Dad calls cops on son to teach him a lesson, cops shoot son dead [Re: Uzziel] * 2
    #19110767 - 11/09/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's the problem these days.. Too many "parents" acting and thinking like teenagers rather than parents. You can be your kid's best friend or you can be their parent, you can't be both. Being a parent doesn't mean you don't care about your kid or their feelings or that you're not cool with them, it means when you have to, you step in to modify behavior because that's what a parent (is supposed to anyways) does. It's our job to teach them the world, and that includes what's right and what's wrong. You're supposed to keep their best interest in mind, not buy them cigarettes and alcohol because you remember what it was like to be that age.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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