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DeadPhan



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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: 19x]
#19105823 - 11/08/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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19x said: i know the mouth is not the right type. we had planned on using the cakes for a monotub anyway. we were just gonna crack em open with a hammer. it was all we had available at the moment . if i could have found some id have used the tapered ones. thank you for your input
 no no no. you want untapered. aka, wide mouth. where the circumference of the mouth, or opening of the jar, is equal to that of the circumference of the rest of the jar. basically just a cylindrical jar all the way down.
with that, most are trying to tell you, that you didnt use the SHORT 1/2 pint jars. there are short, and tall half pint jars. tall half pint jars are likely to stall out, and are also just awkward when fruiting as they topple over easy, and im sure there are other reasons. half pints are ideal and what you are shooting for. you want this
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: DeadPhan]
#19105838 - 11/08/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks for the pic deadphan. we wanted to get those jars but couldnt find them anywhere. do you know any major retailers that carry them?
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: 19x]
#19105839 - 11/08/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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19x said: this is occuring in all six of my jars though. do they really LOOK like pins to you? this is my first time so i dont know from experience. the only knowledge i have is from what ive read here.
It's not pins. It's not even mushroom mycelium. They're dense wet cluster of mold spores, you can see individual sporangium emerging from around them in some parts.
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: 19x]
#19105851 - 11/08/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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19x said: yeah i was just trying to get more people to see my question. and surprise surprise.. it got me more opinions within seconds. i didnt know it was something that would potentially be frowned upon. didnt even get a real answer anyway. 1/2 of the replies in all of the 3 threads i started says they look kosher and that they look like pins, the other 1/2 says theyre fucked and to start over. ill probably just put them in a compost heap at my parents house and start some new jars
just because YOU wanted answers to YOUR questions when YOU wanted them, doesnt make it righteous to post numerous threads on the same topic withing such a short amount of time. there is a rule against bumping your own thread within 24 hours, let alone, making more than one thread about it within that amount of time. if everytime someone was impatient and wanted to flood the boards with multiple threads about a question they need answered when they wanted, this place would be a mess. i wasnt trying to be a dick. just pointing out the rules. let alone a common courtesy.
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: 19x]
#19105863 - 11/08/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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19x said: thanks for the pic deadphan. we wanted to get those jars but couldnt find them anywhere. do you know any major retailers that carry them?
wal-mart maybe. kmart. target? not sure if you have things like, Ace Hardware, or True Value near you? Those places are a sure thing for the most part, and you can always request them to order them in if they arent in stock. im not sure about home depot but i think i may have heard before that they do. at least in some areas.
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: B_BOY]
#19105870 - 11/08/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Vicious Virosa said: I would think while in it's incubation stage (Still in the jar) there is no possible way without the introduction of fresh air and sunlight for pins to start developing. Contamination can take many forms, and seeing as how it was at the inoculation site, I speculate a contaminated syringe, but who knows... I'd be speculative of opening the jars until your sure!
Invitro Pinning happens ALL the time. I didn't do a single round of PF Tek without getting at least one jar out of 5 pinning early. Your jars are fine 19x.
in vitro pinning is caused by bacterial issues most likely.
but they don't look like pins anyways
Full colonization is one of the three main pinning triggers.
Tall half pint jars have been known to work, but they do stall out more often. Just because he used tall half pints doesn't mean his grow is fucked from the git go.
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: elasticaltiger] 1
#19105884 - 11/08/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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no the mold says he was fucked from the get go
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: DeadPhan]
#19105888 - 11/08/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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19x said: i know the mouth is not the right type. we had planned on using the cakes for a monotub anyway. we were just gonna crack em open with a hammer. it was all we had available at the moment . if i could have found some id have used the tapered ones. thank you for your input
 no no no. you want untapered. aka, wide mouth. where the circumference of the mouth, or opening of the jar, is equal to that of the circumference of the rest of the jar. basically just a cylindrical jar all the way down.
with that, most are trying to tell you, that you didnt use the SHORT 1/2 pint jars. there are short, and tall half pint jars. tall half pint jars are likely to stall out, and are also just awkward when fruiting as they topple over easy, and im sure there are other reasons. half pints are ideal and what you are shooting for. you want this
 not this

Those wide mouth are tapered though. Thats what allows the cake to slide out when it releases from the jar.
Probably has a 1-2 degree draft.
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: JohnnieYen]
#19105891 - 11/08/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yes tapered makes it easier to get out, can' remember which company but some widemouths are not. tapered is wider at the top then the bottom
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: cronicr]
#19105895 - 11/08/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Vicious Virosa said: I would think while in it's incubation stage (Still in the jar) there is no possible way without the introduction of fresh air and sunlight for pins to start developing. Contamination can take many forms, and seeing as how it was at the inoculation site, I speculate a contaminated syringe, but who knows... I'd be speculative of opening the jars until your sure!
Invitro Pinning happens ALL the time. I didn't do a single round of PF Tek without getting at least one jar out of 5 pinning early. Your jars are fine 19x.
in vitro pinning is caused by bacterial issues most likely.
but they don't look like pins anyways
Full colonization is one of the three main pinning triggers.
Tall half pint jars have been known to work, but they do stall out more often. Just because he used tall half pints doesn't mean his grow is fucked from the git go.
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cronicr said: no the mold says he was fucked from the get go
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: cronicr]
#19105974 - 11/08/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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ta·per ˈtāpər/ verb past tense: tapered; past participle: tapered
1. diminish or reduce or cause to diminish or reduce in thickness toward one end. "the tail tapers to a rounded tip" synonyms: narrow, thin (out), come to a point, attenuate "the leaves taper at the tip"
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: DeadPhan]
#19106104 - 11/08/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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those are nto pins they are most likley metabites... your jars are the wrong half-pint jars.. dont be getting mad cuz ur asking questions and strangers are doing there best to help you out..
if you think those are pins you should prolly be listening to the advice your getting instead of contradicting it. just my 2c
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: nexxone]
#19106192 - 11/08/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i didnt get mad at the advice. i thanked them for their input. the angry response youre referring to was founded. yours is not because youre speaking uninformed, almost as if all you want to do is start an argument. let me explain. i DID use half pint jars. someone replied after looking at my PICTURE (not actually seeing the jars in person) claiming that they were full pint jars. i then proceeded to tell them that they were also uninformed, as i had poured one half pint of fluid measured from a measuring cup (8 oz) into an empty one. the fluid filled the jar up to the top line. speaking out uninformed just to falsely call someone out on something for which they are correct is not only immature, but ignorant. maybe go back and read the entire thread before you put your 2 cents in and see if the information (false or not) youre about to provide has any relevance. just for the record im not trying to be an asshole, im trying to keep you from making a jackass out of yourself in the future.
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: 19x]
#19106199 - 11/08/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: cronicr]
#19106252 - 11/08/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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sorry i didnt read the whole thread.. but i find your post kinda harsh calling me a jackass and shit.. im trying to save your jars by telling you that u have metabites and not contams
all i said was dont get angry i didnt mean any offence... but now i feel offended somehow lol
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: cronicr]
#19106257 - 11/08/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol cronicr. i really did appreciate your input, i just got offended when you assumed i didnt know what a half pint looked like(im a regular whiskey drinker). i wont lose any sleep over it though. that gif is hilarious and well placed in the thread thanks again
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: nexxone]
#19106262 - 11/08/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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it's metabolites and those are not metabolites, don't lose any sleep over it nexx
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: cronicr]
#19106268 - 11/08/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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nice choice of words 19x lol
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: 19x]
#19106282 - 11/08/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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thank you as well for your input nexxone. what you said did help and i was somewhat of a jackass for not thanking you first and then proceeding to suggest that you are one. it was just obvious to me that you just typed without even reading the thread, and shit like that goes right up my ass. you have a point though i shouldnt be complaining when i ask for advice or input. so sorry if i offended you. im here to make freinds not enemies. im a very argumentative person though. i hardly ever let someone contradict me without responding immediately (unless i know for sure im wrong). its a 30 year old habit im honestly trying to break. sometimes i should just let people think that theyve won the argument so i can cackle about it as i walk away right? lol
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: 19x]
#19106297 - 11/08/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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19x said: thank you as well for your input nexxone. what you said did help and i was somewhat of a jackass for not thanking you first and then proceeding to suggest that you are one. it was just obvious to me that you just typed without even reading the thread, and shit like that goes right up my ass. you have a point though i shouldnt be complaining when i ask for advice or input. so sorry if i offended you. im here to make freinds not enemies. im a very argumentative person though. i hardly ever let someone contradict me without responding immediately (unless i know for sure im wrong). its a 30 year old habit im honestly trying to break. sometimes i should just let people think that theyve won the argument so i can cackle about it as i walk away right? lol
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Edited by cronicr (11/08/13 03:37 PM)
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