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19x
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pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight?
#19105592 - 11/08/13 01:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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these jars have been colonizing for slightly over 2 weeks using pf tek with brf. i used a koh samui super strain syringe . they were not pressure cooked but steamed for 90 minutes. i have 6 jars and this is the one that is mostly colonized. id say around 90 - 95%. the other 5 jars aren't too far behind this one but one of them is only at about 50%. they ALL show these yellow "bubbles" right around the germination point where they were inoculated. aside from not having a pressure cooker, i followed the pf tek 100% maybe im just being optimistic but it doesn't look like contamination to me. I've been doing alot of reading and looking at pics of contamination. I've heard yellow coloring can be from metabolites (but that was described as a yellow fluid, this is looks like little yellow bubbles) or from mycelium that fought off contamination. they even somewhat resemble pins, but all the pins I've seen in other pics have been brown. any input would be appreciated, but i would prefer reliable insight from someone who is more than an amateur.
   
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: 19x]
#19105634 - 11/08/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah i dont think they are contams maybe monitor it i cant remeber what they are called, metabites or somthing i have no idea.. but thats what i think they are. i dont think they could be pins cuz your cakes dont look like they are even full colonized. also u should use the half-pint wide jars instead of the tall ones. i hear the wide ones give you faster growth for some reason.
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: 19x]
#19105635 - 11/08/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would think while in it's incubation stage (Still in the jar) there is no possible way without the introduction of fresh air and sunlight for pins to start developing. Contamination can take many forms, and seeing as how it was at the inoculation site, I speculate a contaminated syringe, but who knows... I'd be speculative of opening the jars until your sure!
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: Vicious Virosa]
#19105663 - 11/08/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Vicious Virosa said: I would think while in it's incubation stage (Still in the jar) there is no possible way without the introduction of fresh air and sunlight for pins to start developing. Contamination can take many forms, and seeing as how it was at the inoculation site, I speculate a contaminated syringe, but who knows... I'd be speculative of opening the jars until your sure!
Invitro Pinning happens ALL the time. I didn't do a single round of PF Tek without getting at least one jar out of 5 pinning early. Your jars are fine 19x.
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19105672 - 11/08/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Never heard of invitro pinning... I was under the impression the change of environment initiated the fruiting process, the more you know I guess!
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19x
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19105684 - 11/08/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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this is occuring in all six of my jars though. do they really LOOK like pins to you? this is my first time so i dont know from experience. the only knowledge i have is from what ive read here.
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: Vicious Virosa]
#19105685 - 11/08/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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dude, this is your second thread on the same topic today. well three including the one in the contamination forum.
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: elasticaltiger]
#19105693 - 11/08/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Vicious Virosa said: I would think while in it's incubation stage (Still in the jar) there is no possible way without the introduction of fresh air and sunlight for pins to start developing. Contamination can take many forms, and seeing as how it was at the inoculation site, I speculate a contaminated syringe, but who knows... I'd be speculative of opening the jars until your sure!
Invitro Pinning happens ALL the time. I didn't do a single round of PF Tek without getting at least one jar out of 5 pinning early. Your jars are fine 19x.
in vitro pinning is caused by bacterial issues most likely.
but they don't look like pins anyways
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: Vicious Virosa] 1
#19105695 - 11/08/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i love i when people say "i followed the pf tek 100%" then post a pic of pint jars...
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: DeadPhan]
#19105727 - 11/08/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah i figured id post it somewhere else to see if i got any different answers from different people.. looking for as much info as possible. why is there a problem with looking for the same thing in different places?
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: 19x]
#19105736 - 11/08/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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use the proper jars and follow the tek to the t next run, you won't regret it
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19x
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: cronicr]
#19105741 - 11/08/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i love when people assume that they know what theyre looking at in a PICTURE when they havent seen it in person.. the jars hold exactly 8 0z except for the 1/2 inch or so of space for the vermiculite layer. so filled up to the 8 0z line yes theyre 1/2 pint jars. any other pointless INCORRECT smartass comments?
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: 19x]
#19105751 - 11/08/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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19x said: i love when people assume that they know what theyre looking at in a PICTURE when they havent seen it in person.. the jars hold exactly 8 0z except for the 1/2 inch or so of space for the vermiculite layer. so filled up to the 8 0z line yes theyre 1/2 pint jars. any other pointless INCORRECT smartass comments?
those jars are fucked either way, good luck
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: 19x] 1
#19105755 - 11/08/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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 no there the wrong jars you want short wide-mouth tapered jars, they should be as tall as they are wide, those do not look healthy i'd start more jars asap
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: cronicr]
#19105765 - 11/08/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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just poured a 1/2 pint of single malt scotch into one of my empty jars. it fit like a glove. i accept your apology
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: 19x]
#19105767 - 11/08/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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19x said: yeah i figured id post it somewhere else to see if i got any different answers from different people.. looking for as much info as possible. why is there a problem with looking for the same thing in different places?
im not sure if there are or arent rules against that, however, i was more so referring to the fact that you posted twice about the same issue in this forum, within the same day at that.
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: 19x]
#19105771 - 11/08/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Like cronicr said it is the shape of the jar, do you understand what he is saying even? and those jars look bad anyways.
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: cronicr]
#19105784 - 11/08/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i know the mouth is not the right type. we had planned on using the cakes for a monotub anyway. we were just gonna crack em open with a hammer. it was all we had available at the moment . if i could have found some id have used the tapered ones. thank you for your input
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: 19x]
#19105795 - 11/08/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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gotcha
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Re: pretty sure this isnt mold, looks almost like pins in my jars. any insight? [Re: DeadPhan]
#19105810 - 11/08/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah i was just trying to get more people to see my question. and surprise surprise.. it got me more opinions within seconds. i didnt know it was something that would potentially be frowned upon. didnt even get a real answer anyway. 1/2 of the replies in all of the 3 threads i started says they look kosher and that they look like pins, the other 1/2 says theyre fucked and to start over. ill probably just put them in a compost heap at my parents house and start some new jars
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