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Re: do rich people... [Re: zee007]
#19104950 - 11/08/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's below average for a metropolitan area of several million people. But yes that would be quite expensive for me. My parents own a house here and work middle class jobs. My mom is a nurse and my dad is a principal now but worked most of his career as a teacher. My inlaws drive subways for a living and own 3 houses (2 here and one in Florida.) Keep in mind that most people take decades to pay off their houses.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: zee007]
#19104972 - 11/08/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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jewunit said: It's definitely well beyond anything I ever plan on living in, but 300k for a house in the burbs of a major metropolitan area sounds about what I would expect.
I agree, but to say 300k for a 3 bedroom living space, or a condo (even in a metropolitan area) isn't expensive is ridiculous.
The logic here is pretty simple.
Edit: In other words, it is expensive to live in a major metropolitan area
i almost didn't get it, but then i was like "oh a get it".
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zee007 said:
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jewunit said: It's definitely well beyond anything I ever plan on living in, but 300k for a house in the burbs of a major metropolitan area sounds about what I would expect.
I agree, but to say 300k for a 3 bedroom living space, or a condo (even in a metropolitan area) isn't expensive is ridiculous.
The logic here is pretty simple.
Edit: In other words, it is expensive to live in a major metropolitan area
i almost didn't get it, but then i was like "oh a get it".

Think it's about time I call it quits on this thread.
Edited by zee007 (11/08/13 10:59 AM)
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Re: do rich people... [Re: zee007]
#19105013 - 11/08/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zee007 said:
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jewunit said: It's definitely well beyond anything I ever plan on living in, but 300k for a house in the burbs of a major metropolitan area sounds about what I would expect.
I agree, but to say 300k for a 3 bedroom living space, or a condo (even in a metropolitan area) isn't expensive is ridiculous.
The logic here is pretty simple.
Edit: In other words, it is expensive to live in a major metropolitan area
$300k for a house is ridiculous? 
One day you'll grow up and live in the real world. That is not at all expensive.
My parents paid $200k for their house 20 years ago in the suburbs of a small city. They didn't even have paved roads at the time. That $200k is at least $300k by today's standards. If you're in a real city the price is far higher.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: zee007]
#19105018 - 11/08/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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is it annoying you or just making you begrudged for wasting your time over this shit? then yes, do it. do yourself a favor, because you'll most likely just end up arguing your very same point, the whole time, while no one listens.
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zee007 said:
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jewunit said: It's definitely well beyond anything I ever plan on living in, but 300k for a house in the burbs of a major metropolitan area sounds about what I would expect.
I agree, but to say 300k for a 3 bedroom living space, or a condo (even in a metropolitan area) isn't expensive is ridiculous.
The logic here is pretty simple.
Edit: In other words, it is expensive to live in a major metropolitan area
$300k for a house is ridiculous? 
One day you'll grow up and live in the real world. That is not at all expensive.
the real world is pervasive and disgusting. you need to live there, because... you know, you love this shit.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: zee007]
#19105050 - 11/08/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, it is expensive to live in a major metropolitan area. That doesn't mean that people who own houses in such areas are particularly rich though. What qualifies as rich is up for debate, but IMO "middle class" is a more accurate description of people who make more money than the poor but a lot less than the very rich, and compose a sizable portion of a country's population.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: psi]
#19105062 - 11/08/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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PS: Pwn read again
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I agree, but to say 300k for a 3 bedroom living space, or a condo (even in a metropolitan area) isn't expensive is ridiculous
he's saying that SAYING IT ISN'T EXPENSIVE. get the argument right, so it can be fucking resolved. GOD.
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akira_akuma said: is it annoying you or just making you begrudged for wasting your time over this shit? then yes, do it. do yourself a favor, because you'll most likely just end up arguing your very same point, the whole time, while no one listens. 
Exactly...
Oh and pwnasaurus, we must not live in the same world.
I pay $950 a month for a house I feel is too big for me. Man you should see all the land I have, although it's sorta surrounded by city life, it is still relatively quiet and peaceful. Stop making all these fucking assumptions, I know what struggle is. You live in a world that offers far better opportunity, but you refuse to see it.
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Wow, you need bluefin tuna? You need it? You would die without a fish who's population has decreased so much over the last 20 years that it's questionable whether or not it will be here in the next 20?
dude the more endangered the better 
tastes so good knowing the proletariat can barely afford it
lol you can drop the act now. For one, your grammar is not up to par as a hundred mil/1 bil family would be and various other reasons it is easy to see. 
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unknown1123 said: Can someone explain the importance on an online thread to act like you're rich?
Dude im just having fun. Anyone who took me seriously or thought I was actually trying to pretend I am a billionaire is a retard.
Thought it would be pretty obvious. And excuse my hostility but you took the first swing at me
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Re: do rich people... [Re: NWlight]
#19105147 - 11/08/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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^^ yeah yeah and yeah.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: zee007]
#19105169 - 11/08/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: is it annoying you or just making you begrudged for wasting your time over this shit? then yes, do it. do yourself a favor, because you'll most likely just end up arguing your very same point, the whole time, while no one listens. 
Exactly...
Oh and pwnasaurus, we must not live in the same world.
I pay $950 a month for a house I feel is too big for me. Man you should see all the land I have, although it's sorta surrounded by city life, it is still relatively quiet and peaceful. Stop making all these fucking assumptions, I know what struggle is. You live in a world that offers far better opportunity, but you refuse to see it.
Let's say that $950 a month was your payment on a 25 year mortgage. That's $285K in payments over that period. Obviously a good sized chunk of that will go to interest, but a person who can afford a $300K house over 25 years is really not all that much richer than you are.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: psi]
#19105180 - 11/08/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yah, but he's saying it's unnecessarily expensive or unnecessarily big and needless.
either or...
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He never said that, at least not that I can tell. All he said was it's expensive, then demonstrated that he could easily afford it.
A lot of it is relative. To me even $500 a month is out of reach expensive, but that's because of where I am right now. To many of my peers that's cheap.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: jewunit]
#19105207 - 11/08/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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maybe i am mistaken. it's waht it looked like he said, to me. he seems to me, to be making not a comparison, but a point about how expensive items are needless. i was hoping he'd reiterate, because well damn, this thread...
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I agree, but to say 300k for a 3 bedroom living space, or a condo (even in a metropolitan area) isn't expensive is ridiculous
he's saying that SAYING IT ISN'T EXPENSIVE. get the argument right, so it can be fucking resolved. GOD.
My god this is stupid. There's no resolving an argument when the first premise is flawed. Making the claim that a 300k house is expensive -to someone living around the poverty line- is no big jump of reasoning. But saying that "what most consider middle class should be considered rich" is ignorant.
The whole point here is that No, to a real wealthy person, 300k isn't shit. And one of the main reasons the whole wealth disparity issue is so misunderstood is because of fools like you muddying it up like this. People mortgage their 300k house to buy a range rover and then think they're rich, so they vote for the interests of billionaires. There is wealth out there that you can't even comprehend, you're too busy getting mad at your neighbor for buying a 2br house. A yacht you can land a helicopter on is unnecessary.
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Re: do rich people... [Re: Lynnch]
#19105219 - 11/08/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok, i have nothing against rich people or whatever you're complaining about. go away. people can do what they want.
like i said, he isn't making a comparison... he is just trying to make a point. if you're so smart help the man out in his position. don't pander your rhetoric to me, when i'm not even really fighting the issue, here.
fucking christ.
PS: there is alot of wealth out there and it's accumulated and it's central to the well being of live on this planet, because we made it that way.
doesn't make it right, or better or "natural" or anything, either... so why are getting so upset over someones opinion on the matter, if it doesn't effect you and your amassing of wealth?
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Re: do rich people... [Re: Lynnch]
#19105265 - 11/08/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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How are they supposed to land their helicopter on their yacht without a helipad?
that made no sense. I'd say its 100% necessary
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I'm not upset about his opinion, or point or whatever it was. I read something blatantly silly and felt it would be irresponsible to not respond and set it straight.
Much of the last thousand years of human history has been centered around the fight against the accumulation of wealth and power in the hands of the few, and for progress towards prosperity for the many.
What they really need is a yacht that can fly!
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Re: do rich people... [Re: Lynnch]
#19105289 - 11/08/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The spruce goose is a wooden plane that could take off and land from water.

Flying yachts are just a step away....
also thank you for realizing I was being facetious. people seem to be taking everything I say in this thread literally
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