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should i group a bunch of peyote clusters together
    #19102820 - 11/07/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just got 5 peyote clusters and i was thinking about repotting them together in one pot to make one huge cluster. Is this a good idead?. If so how far apart should i pyt them from each other or should i put them right next to each other?


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Re: should i group a bunch of peyote clusters together [Re: Piro20]
    #19103512 - 11/07/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome! Pics??!

I would keep them seperate. Especially if they are caespitose plants. If you get any kind of pest or disease on them, it will probably affect all of them. And all those crevices are good hiding places for pests and for water to sit in and cause rot.

Aesthetically speaking, it would be beautiful. But if something bad happened to that one pot of plants, be it pests, disease, a freak freeze or a windstorm blowing down the shelf your plants are on, you would regret it.

A windstorm blew down a shelf of my cacti in my shade house. ALL of my lophophora were on the top shelf. 12 lophs face planted into the ground and a pereskiopsis grafted loph snapped.
Miraculously they all survived. Many of them were embedded with gravel and still have horrible scars. I fixed the shelf and now it won't even move if you try to push it over.
Lesson learned. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Happy growing!
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Re: should i group a bunch of peyote clusters together [Re: Desert Delerium]
    #19104227 - 11/08/13 07:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

IME peyote seems to like being a little crowded. I don't have any big caespitosas though.


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Re: should i group a bunch of peyote clusters together [Re: psi]
    #19110860 - 11/09/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the advice, i would put pics up but for some reason i cant upload them off my phone


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Re: should i group a bunch of peyote clusters together [Re: Piro20]
    #19113023 - 11/10/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have planted numbers of regular peyote cactus to one pot.

That is because I have lack of space anyway so cannot offer own pot to everyone.

Also I think it's good because when I water my plants, there is more drinkers in pot so soil dry up faster. It's only my theory, I have no idea is there any point but yes, I cultivate younger peyote cactus in one pot and I have seen 3 caespitose peyote grown to one bigger cluster of cactus.

In habitat is also possible there grow numbers of peyote cactus in one place. Sometimes plants next to another are offshoots or lots of seeds are germinated in one place.

I have not seen there is any problem to grow many peyote cactus in same pot.. But later on after some years, peyote can crack whole pot when they are big enough and got drink of water and plump but this happens only if you grow long time peyote in small container. I have seen actually funny picture from crowded pots what are cracked totally cause of peyote.

I don't see any bad about planting all your plants to same pot as long as you don't get root bound but it doesn't happens so easily with peyote.

I am not sure does one research I have read include cacti but most plants will grow more aggressively roots when they are crowded to one pot with non-relative plants cause all roots release some chemicals to soil and another plants will react for that and start the fight of root space.

Now I have 9 ~3cm diameter peyote planted to one clay pot. Ofc pests will attack all your plants in same pot but anyway, I got every winter pests to my plants so I have not even start to care about them much. Scars will grow out anyway when summer comes and plant starts grow new epidermis.. Sometimes I cause more issues to plant skin with pesticides than pests them selves.:lol:


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Re: should i group a bunch of peyote clusters together [Re: intelligentlife]
    #19114487 - 11/10/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Also I think it's good because when I water my plants, there is more drinkers in pot so soil dry up faster.




Yeah that's my thinking on it too. Isolating plants from each other is not enough to prevent rot anyway if the conditions are wrong. If the collective root mass is big enough relative to the soil to pull most of the moisture out of it quickly, you're avoiding the rot-promoting condition of persistent dampness. That's why many growers advise that over-potting cacti is a bad idea. A small plant in a big pot can only absorb so much water, and then the soil has to dry out on its own.

Basically, "putting all your eggs in one basket" only becomes a problem when you've made some mistake anyway. Losing plants sucks, but it helps you to remember not to make those mistakes next time. Doing a lot of reading is a good way to avoid making those mistakes in the first place, but most growers will fuck up at some point and lose some plants anyway. If you start out by buying big expensive plants then losses are going to hurt more than losing a few seedlings out of dozens or hundreds, so erring on the side of caution with valuable plants is a good idea (especially when it comes to watering frequency, substrate choice and exposure to cold temperatures.) IMO growing from seed is probably the best way to start out but that's just me.


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