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Willy Wonka
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Ready to fruit?
#19102593 - 11/07/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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 This tub is showing what appears to be very rhizomorphic growth. you can see strands of mycelium growing straight up and out of the substrate. The only problem is that the tub still looks to have visibly un colonized substrate. My tubs have always been covered in a white snowy looking mycelium blanket before I have fruited them. Has anyone seen the mycelium grow in rhizomorphic strands straight up into the air before covering the substrate?
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The only problem is that the tub still looks to have visibly un colonized substrate.
I don't see what you're talking about.
It's begging you,
fruit it.
Edited by Midnight Cyclone (11/07/13 08:17 PM)
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FRUIT FRUIT FRUIT!
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When you open that tub up you'll see all the sub is white and fuzzy.
It literally is begging to be fruited.
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That is some beautiful mycelium
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I'm no expert, but it looks gorgeous to me. I say treat it like a woman and give it what it wants! Fruit that beautiful thing...I would!
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Re: Ready to fruit? [Re: Taint_33]
#19102734 - 11/07/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks Fruiting time it is then.
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Fuckin beautiful...
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Re: Ready to fruit? [Re: SamhainJ]
#19103194 - 11/07/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have heard other people talk of ariel mycelium. Could that be what your seeing? Fruit that baby. What species is it your growing?
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Willy Wonka
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The tub is Psilocybin cubensis, African Transkei. It is one of my favorite types of cubes I have worked with. I have started the fruiting cycle. Here is a picture of the tub as of 11-10-13:
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I can't wait to see that pinset!
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Willy Wonka
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The tub already has some real nice knots forming in it.
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what's up with the white spots in the generally yellowish mycel?
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Willy Wonka
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I don't know. I was kind of wondering about the white spots. The overall yellow is the manure substrate. It is what I am talking about in the original post of this thread. Normally my tubs are all white like in the spots that are all white in this current tub. The tub seems to only have a real thin over lay of mycelium over most of the manure substrate. I think it is either the mycelium starting to thicken up or it's a contamination. Only time will tell. My fingers are crossed and I am hoping that it is just myc starting to grow vigorously. Maybe I will get lucky and a TC will drop in on this thread and say what they think it might be.
Edited by Willy Wonka (11/11/13 12:49 PM)
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Willy Wonka said: The tub is Psilocybin cubensis, African Transkei. It is one of my favorite types of cubes I have worked with. I have started the fruiting cycle. Here is a picture of the tub as of 11-10-13:

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spacechildo said: what's up with the white spots in the generally yellowish mycel?
The white, aerial mycelium we saw first looks to have been sprayed. Have you been misting? This is what my tubs with aerial mycelium look like after I spray them and the strands of mycelium that were standing up all end up laying on their sides. The white spots are either just the last spots of myc filling in, or some pre-sporulation mold. If you can get a better up close picture of the white spots with good focus and lighting, we should be able to determine that for you.
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The overall yellow is the manure substrate.
I don't think that's how it works... mycelium should grow white no matter the substrate and discoloration can likely be attributed to some contamination. The exception to this is the color yellow, the color of metabolite excretion, and blue for bruising.
I'm hoping the best for you but honestly don't know what to expect from this tub, only time will tell.
Hopefully it will work itself out, good luck!
Edited by Midnight Cyclone (11/13/13 07:15 AM)
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IME sometimes the mycelium will only weakly colonize the sub, allowing the color of the sub to show through. This is not a problem, as long as the mycelium has colonized it, its fine. This is not an indication of the ability to fruit, some of my best fruiting clones are like this. Expect to see the colonization thicken up as it flushes. If your culture is ms this is to be expected to some degree.
IMO OP I would be more concerned with those super white patches. Its hard for me to see on my phone, but they look a little sandy/dusty which is usually the first sign of trich. Keep an eye on them. Regardless fruit that tub now as the rest is ready.
Good luck
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hopefully my tubs turn out looking that good, nice man.
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i dont think the white patches are trich, they seem to have knots on them. trich wouldn't start knotting cubes?
manure tend to make a quite bright white sub. brighter than coir ime.
how's it looking OP?
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A picture of the tub's first flush.
 This is the only picture I have of the tub from the first flush. I had to move my entire operation because stuff got comprimised. The 1st flush yeilded 37g dry.
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Midnight Cyclone said: The white, aerial mycelium we saw first looks to have been sprayed. Have you been misting? This is what my tubs with aerial mycelium look like after I spray them and the strands of mycelium that were standing up all end up laying on their sides.
I did not mist it at all. I set the tub and did not do a thing to it until it started pinning. Then all I did was pull the tape, stuff the polly and fan it out one time. Then I left it be until harvest time.
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Pastywhyte said: IME sometimes the mycelium will only weakly colonize the sub, allowing the color of the sub to show through. This is not a problem, as long as the mycelium has colonized it, its fine. This is not an indication of the ability to fruit, some of my best fruiting clones are like this. Expect to see the colonization thicken up as it flushes. If your culture is ms this is to be expected to some degree.
IMO OP I would be more concerned with those super white patches. Its hard for me to see on my phone, but they look a little sandy/dusty which is usually the first sign of trich. Keep an eye on them. Regardless fruit that tub now as the rest is ready.
Good luck

That is what I thought it might be. Just a slow weak colonizer. The white patches are getting more prominent. It's hard for me to tell if it's trich or not. It looks like trich to me but none of it has sporulate yet.

Here it is tonight three days after harvesting the first flush.
Edited by Willy Wonka (11/25/13 10:07 PM)
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Missed this thread...as others have said that myc before fruiting looks gorgeous! like a shaggy dogs coat or something 
Shame it ultimately did not yield much on first flush
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Re: Ready to fruit? [Re: Skinty]
#19190575 - 11/26/13 06:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If those white patches are trich then I would guess they should have sporulated by now.
On that note, good job and keep it up, looks like you have a healthy tub.
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Definitely looks like trich to me
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Willy Wonka
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Skinty said: Shame it ultimately did not yield much on first flush 
It could have indeed yielded more. I wish it did but it's not all that bad of a yield considering the tub is a mini. The tub is half the size of the standard monotub. It only takes 8qts of Substrate and spawn to fill it to the 4 inch mark. This particular tub was spawn using a 1 to 7 ratio.
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krypto2000 said: Definitely looks like trich to me 
Me to, but it hasn't turned green yet. My fingers are crossed for a second flush. And even if it is trich I have another tub colonizing right now and I have spawn for another tub that I am about to dump.
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krypto2000 said: Definitely looks like trich to me 
Me to, but it hasn't turned green yet. My fingers are crossed for a second flush. And even if it is trich I have another tub colonizing right now and I have spawn for another tub that I am about to dump.
Best way to battle trich right there.
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krypto2000 said: Definitely looks like trich to me 
Me to, but it hasn't turned green yet. My fingers are crossed for a second flush. And even if it is trich I have another tub colonizing right now and I have spawn for another tub that I am about to dump.
Best way to battle trich right there. 
QFT more is MORE IMO
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Willy Wonka
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krypto2000 said: Definitely looks like trich to me 
Me to, but it hasn't turned green yet. My fingers are crossed for a second flush. And even if it is trich I have another tub colonizing right now and I have spawn for another tub that I am about to dump.
Best way to battle trich right there. 
QFT more is MORE IMO 
I'm going to start a golden teacher tub tomorrow. I will post a picture of how this tub is doing then.
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Mycelium layering for second flush (I hope) [Re: Willy Wonka]
#19210412 - 11/30/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The tub still has no sign og the mean green. The white growth in the tub is starting to look more and more like mycelium. I am still worried that I might be trichoderma but I am starting to gave a little bit of hope for the tub. Here it is as of 11-29-13.
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Re: Mycelium layering for second flush (I hope) [Re: Willy Wonka]
#19210425 - 11/30/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Definitely looks like a contam mycelium and probably is the reason for your lackluster first flush. Keep an eye on it, looks like it wants to change at a moments notice.
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Re: Mycelium layering for second flush (I hope) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19210794 - 12/01/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I hope not
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Re: Mycelium layering for second flush (I hope) [Re: Willy Wonka]
#19210813 - 12/01/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Willy Wonka said: I hope not
Me too, one of those times when I hope I'm wrong 
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Willy Wonka
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Well I am so happy to say that I really don't think it was trich as I welcome in the 2nd flush.
 By the way I added an oil heater (the radiator looking kind) to the room. The heater is sitting directly under the metal desk which the tub is on and it keeps the bottom of the the table a nice 86f The tub is starting to look good
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Here is another African Transkei tub that I have colonizing. I spawned this tub on 11-18-13. It was 3 quart jars of colonized wheat berries to 5 quarts of a horse manure, verm, gypsum substrate. The substrate was pasteurized in quart jars at 160f for 1 hour and then the jars were immediately removed from the pasteurization pot after the hour.
Edited by Willy Wonka (12/05/13 12:53 PM)
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Nice, I'm happy to see it worked out for ya. Might have just been some ms weirdness. Definitely got sum boomers there
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Stuff seems to have taken off leaps and bounds since I added heat to the set up, go figure. Plus since I added the heat if it was trich I think the warmer temperatures would have caused the trich to turn green.
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