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Anonymous #1

How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous????
    #19102014 - 11/07/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm just saying, how do we know?


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Anonymous #2

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #19102062 - 11/07/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's not TRULY anonymous..


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Anonymous #3

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19102395 - 11/07/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Personally, I don't see why it isn't set up so that our identities are hidden from even the mods and admins via the same mechanism used for secure PMs.


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Anonymous #3

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #19102438 - 11/07/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why should I be comfortable with a select few individuals seeing who I am. Totally undermines the nature of this forum. The Shroomery is perfectly capable of setting things up so that literally no one can see the author of a post.


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Anonymous #4

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #19102776 - 11/07/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #2 said:
It's not TRULY anonymous..




Quote:

Anonymous #3 said:
the mods and admins




they can all see us. jus so u kno


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Anonymous #5

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #19103141 - 11/07/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #3 said:
Personally, I don't see why it isn't set up so that our identities are hidden from even the mods and admins via the same mechanism used for secure PMs.





Mods need to see who the posters are so we can mod effectively.  The way I treat offenses differs for well known trolls or first time offenders.  Also since one of the rules that sincerity is required, it helps to know who the users are so I can tell if they are being sincere.

Not all mods can see the identity of anonymous posters, just mods of the anonymous forum.


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Anonymous #6

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #5] * 3
    #19126688 - 11/12/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I made a thread here to kinda test the waters and see just how anonymous this forum was.. and it FAILED royally. The person I tried to seek anonymity from literally PMed me the next day and called me out on it... I cant say for sure, but I would put money down that one of the mods or admins saw the post and told them that I made a post about them. I would NEVER trust this forum as far as I could throw it.


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Anonymous #5

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #19126709 - 11/12/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
I cant say for sure, but I would put money down that one of the mods or admins saw the post and told them that I made a post about them.





Seems unlikely.


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Anonymous #7

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #19127766 - 11/12/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
I made a thread here to kinda test the waters and see just how anonymous this forum was.. and it FAILED royally. The person I tried to seek anonymity from literally PMed me the next day and called me out on it... I cant say for sure, but I would put money down that one of the mods or admins saw the post and told them that I made a post about them. I would NEVER trust this forum as far as I could throw it.




Maybe you were just too descriptive in your thread? Maybe you gave away some detail that made the person who PMed you recognize that it was you. :shrug:


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Anonymous #8

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19128274 - 11/12/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's not. All the mods can see you.


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Anonymous #1

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #19128287 - 11/12/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's what I thought.


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Anonymous #2

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19128523 - 11/12/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

From what they've said it's not all the mods, just the ones that are moderators of this forum.


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Anonymous #9

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #19131724 - 11/13/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Nothing you do online is ever really anonymous. Not 100% untraceable.

It's a good thing. People who feel they can get away with an act scot-free will be more inclined to do so.  Adding that hesitation as to whether you'll be found out is beneficial otherwise this thread for example would descend into a flamewar/ trolling etc. 

We need systems in place online and in general society to usher us towards the morally correct decision or at least remind us that we can be caught and therefore not to do anything that you wouldn't later stand by.


Ask yourself this, if you knew 100% you wouldn't be caught/ identified, would you be more inclined to commit favourable or unfavourable acts?  Society has shown time and time again that idiots will commit crimes thinking they could get away with it.


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Anonymous #1

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #19133492 - 11/13/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #9 said:
Nothing you do online is ever really anonymous. Not 100% untraceable.




This is not true.


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Anonymous #10

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19133499 - 11/13/13 09:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No one on this forum is truly anonymous, simply put.


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Anonymous #11

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #19138733 - 11/14/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Because they tell us it is...

Dont question authority, you might accomplish something. :rofl:


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Anonymous #12

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #19138757 - 11/14/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #3 said:
Personally, I don't see why it isn't set up so that our identities are hidden from even the mods and admins via the same mechanism used for secure PMs.



Then people would abuse it.


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Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #19140307 - 11/15/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
I made a thread here to kinda test the waters and see just how anonymous this forum was.. and it FAILED royally. The person I tried to seek anonymity from literally PMed me the next day and called me out on it... I cant say for sure, but I would put money down that one of the mods or admins saw the post and told them that I made a post about them. I would NEVER trust this forum as far as I could throw it.



Just for the record, administrators of this site *never* give out information about anonymous posters to anyone without their permission.
We may contact the anonymous poster themselves, which isn't an issue.
Giving your identity to another person however, we will never do that.


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Anonymous #1

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #19140355 - 11/15/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Sell Your Soul said:
Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
I made a thread here to kinda test the waters and see just how anonymous this forum was.. and it FAILED royally. The person I tried to seek anonymity from literally PMed me the next day and called me out on it... I cant say for sure, but I would put money down that one of the mods or admins saw the post and told them that I made a post about them. I would NEVER trust this forum as far as I could throw it.



Just for the record, administrators of this site *never* give out information about anonymous posters to anyone without their permission.
We may contact the anonymous poster themselves, which isn't an issue.
Giving your identity to another person however, we will never do that.




Even if legally subpoenaed? You guys (the admins) are going to stand up for an anonymous person? I highly doubt it.


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Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19140386 - 11/15/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Quote:

Sell Your Soul said:
Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
I made a thread here to kinda test the waters and see just how anonymous this forum was.. and it FAILED royally. The person I tried to seek anonymity from literally PMed me the next day and called me out on it... I cant say for sure, but I would put money down that one of the mods or admins saw the post and told them that I made a post about them. I would NEVER trust this forum as far as I could throw it.



Just for the record, administrators of this site *never* give out information about anonymous posters to anyone without their permission.
We may contact the anonymous poster themselves, which isn't an issue.
Giving your identity to another person however, we will never do that.




Even if legally subpoenaed? You guys (the admins) are going to stand up for an anonymous person? I highly doubt it.



I'm only referring to someone from this site saying: "Hey buddy, who was Anonymous #3? I don't like that dude. Tell me who it is."

Of course, legal matters are different, and we handle those differently, but it also depends on the severity of the case and who is affected by it.
I'm not going into the details in that area because that wasn't the original question.


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Anonymous #1

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #19140457 - 11/15/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Sell Your Soul said:

Just for the record, administrators of this site *never* give out information about anonymous posters to anyone without their permission.



You said it, not me buddy...

Should I make another thread? Because I'm sure I wouldn't be the ONLY person that would like to know how safe we REALLY are here. And the way I see it still pertains to the OP's topic of anonymity and how anonymous we really are.


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Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19140467 - 11/15/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Now that depends by what you mean by "safe" ?

Safe from whom?
Drug dealers? Your parents? FBI/DEA?
You can't generalize all of that into one group.

Don't forget that your user name on here is somewhat anonymous,
unless you happen to be using your real name as your username, for some reason.

Then everything you post on here passes through your ISP, so you also get to worry about employees at your ISP spying on what you do.

It's not worth it to be that level of paranoid.

Incriminating situations such as drug deals, we just don't allow that on this site to begin with.

Bottom line is - don't go posting anything you don't want coming back to bite you in the ass later on.


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Anonymous #1

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #19140510 - 11/15/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Sell Your Soul said:
Now that depends by what you mean by "safe" ?

Safe from whom?
Drug dealers? Your parents? FBI/DEA?
You can't generalize all of that into one group.

Don't forget that your user name on here is somewhat anonymous,
unless you happen to be using your real name as your username, for some reason.

Then everything you post on here passes through your ISP, so you also get to worry about employees at your ISP spying on what you do.

It's not worth it to be that level of paranoid.

Incriminating situations such as drug deals, we just don't allow that on this site to begin with.

Bottom line is - don't go posting anything you don't want coming back to bite you in the ass later on.




See this is where it gets confusing. You allow people to talk about doing illicit drugs and how to prepare, obtain, cultivate or even forage those substances. Even so far as people posting pictures of themselves along side doing these illegal acts. We all know that just having the knowledge or a link to information about something, isn't illegal, but that is not what is happening here. People are collectively sharing very self incriminating information everyday here. I mean I totally understand why you don't want this place to be the hook-up site, and agree. I guess what I am getting at is a bigger question that just for the SA section but for the entire site: How safe are we here, and how private is our information here? (Let's assume that everything coming from my local PC passed thru my ISP is encrypted)


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Anonymous #5

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19140530 - 11/15/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How safe are we here,




No one has been busted by posting on this site in the 14 years or so it has been up, so you are 100% safe.

Quote:

and how private is our information here?





More private than most sites.


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Anonymous #1

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #19140548 - 11/15/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

No one has been busted by posting on this site in the 14 years or so it has been up, so you are 100% safe.




I don't believe it.


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Anonymous #5

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19140560 - 11/15/13 11:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
I don't believe it.





Why not?

Law enforcment does not work by trolling message board for victimless crimes.  They generally set people up for selling drugs or work based on complaints.



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Anonymous #13

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #19144356 - 11/16/13 06:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #5 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
I don't believe it.





Why not?

Law enforcment does not work by trolling message board for victimless crimes.  They generally set people up for selling drugs or work based on complaints.






They prefer to troll facebook for that...


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Anonymous #5

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #19144681 - 11/16/13 10:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #13 said:
They prefer to troll facebook for that...





I don't notice law enforcement trolling facebook either.    Have you seen how many people post pictures of their grows in the shroomery facebook group?  It happens every day....And no one has complained about heat showing up because of it.


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Anonymous #14

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #19145137 - 11/16/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Nothing is "truly" anonymous in the digital age.  The trick is to put more energy into being anonymous than anyone would want to devote toward discovering your identity.


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Anonymous #13

Re: How do we know this is TRUELY anonymous???? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #19148581 - 11/17/13 06:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #5 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #13 said:
They prefer to troll facebook for that...





I don't notice law enforcement trolling facebook either.    Have you seen how many people post pictures of their grows in the shroomery facebook group?  It happens every day....And no one has complained about heat showing up because of it.




You apparently don't pay much attention to the Shroomery News Service. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19079071/page/3

There have been other documented cases of people being arrested for posting about their drugs and/or drug usage on Facebook.

Hopefully those posting in the shroomery facebook group are doing so from accounts that do not readily identify themselves.


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