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MidnightCity
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: cronicr]
#19100260 - 11/07/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cronicr said: foun a bunch of these pans, never really looked into my local pans but here ya go they don't look like ay ciincs i've seen

 and the black print

and here's something i foundin the grass i thoght might be a pellie but the fact that it was in the grass had e stumped(was fairly close to the wood)
 the print was an orange-brown, another reason i thought not pellie as i have a hard time gettng pellies to print, this one was easy
Sweet Panaeolus! Those don't look like cinctulus to me either, really interesting though...do you have any larger photos?
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cronicr



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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: MidnightCity]
#19100504 - 11/07/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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nope sorry thats all i got but i will take more pics today or sure. forgot this pic of he one i found in the grass, i wanna say pellie but it was very ble which i believe was from the nip of frost we had a few days ago(something that pellies don't typicly do)
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nomadbrad
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: cronicr]
#19100556 - 11/07/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've been trying to figure out the differences between ovoids and allenii. Does anybody know the macro feature differences between the two?? I want to make sure I have a solid ID on what I thought was allenii last week. Please help?
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Eclipse3130
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: nomadbrad]
#19100618 - 11/07/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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nomadbrad said: Eclipse.... NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! 
Do people eat what they find all the time on here or something? I can't imagine ever doing that without completely 100% confirming what the species truly was before I ate anything. I'm not looking to die.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Psilocybe_pelliculosa_119172.jpg
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kcrocker802
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: Eclipse3130]
#19100630 - 11/07/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Did you take a sporeprint, and/or check for an easily separable pellicle?
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cronicr



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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: Eclipse3130]
#19100644 - 11/07/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol i know what a pellie is, i've picked for years.. just this particular fruit was in a grass field on the way out to my pellie patches and was kinda dried up so i couldn't check for the pellicule, also it dropped spores readily something else that isn't common for me not to mention the deep blueing and the fact that the spore print was darker then most printsi've seen and almstmore indicitve of a baeo
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OregonBlueShroom


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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: nomadbrad]
#19100659 - 11/07/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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nomadbrad said: I've been trying to figure out the differences between ovoids and allenii. Does anybody know the macro feature differences between the two?? I want to make sure I have a solid ID on what I thought was allenii last week. Please help?
The caps on ovoids are convex to subumbonate and on allenii are broadly convex to flattened, sometimes with a slight depression, they are not umbonate or no bump in the middle. Ive also noticed allenii caps to grow in almost perfect circles especially when immature. The ones I find always have a more pale color to the cap than cyanescens but ive never found ovoids to compare them to.
I think i remember seeing your find and it looked like allenii to me.
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kcrocker802
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: OregonBlueShroom]
#19100696 - 11/07/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was talking to Eclipse.
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cronicr



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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: kcrocker802]
#19100745 - 11/07/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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kcrocker802 said: I was talking to Eclipse.
my bad bud! no those arr not pellies eclipse



 those are pellies, what you havee is commonlyfound in grass and should not be eaten
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maynardjameskeenan
The white stipes



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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: cronicr]
#19101301 - 11/07/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cronicr said: foun a bunch of these pans, never really looked into my local pans but here ya go they don't look like ay ciincs i've seen

 and the black print

and here's something i foundin the grass i thoght might be a pellie but the fact that it was in the grass had e stumped(was fairly close to the wood)
 the print was an orange-brown, another reason i thought not pellie as i have a hard time gettng pellies to print, this one was easy
I would think that they are Panaeolus bisporus or something similar. The bluing is pretty intense. very cool find, maybe save a few so someone can scope them.
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: nomadbrad]
#19101328 - 11/07/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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nomadbrad said: I've been trying to figure out the differences between ovoids and allenii. Does anybody know the macro feature differences between the two?? I want to make sure I have a solid ID on what I thought was allenii last week. Please help?
P. allenii Pileus (Cap): 2-4.5 cm broad, convex or bell shaped; margin striate; surface smooth, sticky when moist, hygrophanous, brown, hygrophanous fading to yellow-brown or buff; flesh thin, brittle in age, bruising blue.
Lamellae (Gills): Adnate to seceding, close when young, subdistant in age, pale cinnamon brown, becoming dark grey-brown, edges lighter than the faces, mottled from spores at maturity.
Stipe (stem): 3-6 cm tall, 3-6 mm thick, equal to sometimes enlarged at the base, the latter with conspicuous thickened mycelium (rhizomorphs); surface white, smooth to silky, bruising blue; veil fibrillose, forming a superior, evanescent hairy, annular zone.
Microscopic Features: Purple-brown to purple-gray or purple-black; Spores 9-13 x 6-9 um, elliptical, smooth, with an apical pore.
Season: Much Like P. cyanescens they prefer the cold tempuratures of fall and usually are found late september into december, and October through January in California.
Habitat and Distribution: Much like P. cyanescens they like the mulch and wood chipped areas. "Being a bit south helps (Tacoma and south Washington)" (NeoSporen). They are largely seen in the San Francisco Bay area of California where they get their name from.
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P. ovoideocystidiata CAP: 1-4.5 cm diam., convex to subumbonate, lubricous to subviscid, glabrous, translucent striate at the margin, hygrophanous, orangish brown to yellowish brown, sometimes white when dry
FLESH: whitish to ocherous pale, blueing, odor farinaceous
GILLS: subadnate, brownish pale to dark brownish violaceous, uniform in color
STEM :15-90 × 1–7 mm, smooth above to floccose-scaly below, cylindric, equal, somewhat subbulbous, base sometimes hypogeous, whitish, with irregular pale ochre or violaceous tones below or pale reddish brown above, hollow, with white mycelium at the base.
VEIL: Annulus membraneous, white,evanescent
EDIBILITY: Hallucinogenic and potent
HABITAT: Gregarious, on wood or wood debris, in trails orplaces with herbaceous plants, in a deciduous forest. Ussually found near rivers in flood plains where wood has accumulated and thick vegetation has grown over the debris.
SPORES:(7–) 8–9 (–12) × (5.5–) 6–7 (–8.5) µm, rhomboid or subrhomboid in face view, subellipsoid in side view, thick walled, wall 0.8–1.5 µm thick, yellowish brown, with a broad germ pore at one end and a short appendage at the other.
Geographic Location: Not completely known at this time. Reported specimans from Pennsylvania, Ohio and West Virginia
NAME ORIGIN: From the Frequent Ovoid Both Pleuro- and Cheilocystidia
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fry day


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Sarcodon scabrosus? [Re: nomadbrad]
#19101442 - 11/07/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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habitat - pnw under conifers, doug fir...





Sorry 'bout the crap photos, hopefully fuji will send my cam back quickly!
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thiotimoline
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: Eclipse3130]
#19101804 - 11/07/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: Do people eat what they find all the time on here or something? I can't imagine ever doing that without completely 100% confirming what the species truly was before I ate anything. I'm not looking to die.
Every now and then we get posts of the form "So I ate these mushrooms, now can you hurry up and tell me what they were???" but I'm pretty sure they're trolls/people who think lying will get them a faster ID.
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canid
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: thiotimoline]
#19101828 - 11/07/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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thiotimoline said: Every now and then we get posts of the form "So I ate these mushrooms, now can you hurry up and tell me what they were???" but I'm pretty sure they're trolls/people who think lying will get them a faster ID.
Yes, but the problem is making yourself remember that some of these are earnest people who are scared or worried, and having some compassion. I used to be better at that.
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raceme
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Re: Sarcodon scabrosus? [Re: fry day]
#19101909 - 11/07/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sarcodon imbricatus.
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thiotimoline
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Re: Sarcodon scabrosus? [Re: raceme]
#19101979 - 11/07/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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But when I worry about people I get angry anyway, just differently :/ (And earnest people who are rightly scared aren't too pleasant to interact with either.) Maybe I should make myself a rule of replying to those threads not more than once, and then hiding them, and my compassion won't get used up as fast.
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OregonBlueShroom


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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: thiotimoline]
#19101990 - 11/07/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can anybody tell me if this is matsutake or another failed find of mine?







They felt kind of slimy, and smell is not bad or good but cant describe it.
-------------------- Favorite quote: I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?
    
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canid
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I always consider it something of a personal responsibility as a self-styled ambassador to the phylum Basidiomycota to do my share of the caring.
Not that it goes to my head or anything...
:P
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rev0kadavur
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Re: PNW fall 2013 discussion, and ID requests thread [Re: OregonBlueShroom]
#19102442 - 11/07/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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OregonBlueShroom said: Can anybody tell me if this is matsutake or another failed find of mine?







They felt kind of slimy, and smell is not bad or good but cant describe it.
Sure resembles them!
I have yet to find them.. but If I found those I would think I had finally found them!
...at the base of a cedar?
my cousin describe their scent as dirty socks and a hint of cinnamon...
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cronicr



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Re: Sarcodon scabrosus? [Re: canid]
#19102453 - 11/07/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i do have a whack of the pan prints, i was almost thinking pan olivaceus?
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