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Deathcore
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19109322 - 11/09/13 07:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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My phone dies then I charge it to bring it back to life, then it dies again.
Ego death is temporary..until you release the dmt from your brain at death... Good luck.
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Yogi1
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19109360 - 11/09/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Has your ego ever died? Mine always comes back. What comes back is not dead.
Seems to me by the tone of your post that yours is quite intact still. Did you buy a new one after your old one died?
You know the intended meaning of the terminology is a temporary halting of the sense of self. Nothing particularly difficult about that.
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nicechrisman
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: Yogi1]
#19109363 - 11/09/13 07:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You guys are totally missing my point. My post was directed to OP.
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lessismore
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19109374 - 11/09/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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format the brain :-) thats egodeath
happens by "accident", or for the people who really need it due to personal reasons
its intense, you might find out it was egodeath after it, or maybe not sometimes not probably just unconscious...
changes a lot of stuff, unless you already are yourself
still processing the trip 2 years or so later
some people regret some people wish they did it long time ago
any psychedelic experience can be as valuable, egodeath is usually a bit unpleasant but also bliss no need to format your brain if you feel fine and dont live your life in fear/worry/carelessness
you might become the next john lennon he did lsd 1000 times+ had egodeath once or how many times
changes will be inevitable
but nothing to fear, it will happen in time if you do psychedelics enough and are ready listen to trance + let go of thoughts, accept death, look right at your fear happened to hofmann too iirc, many people ...
for me only 1 word suffices.. spiritual rebirth, come to terms with exactly who you are, you might have forgotten your inner being for long, but for some its much different 100% acceptance too, that part wasnt too bad, bliss everyday , just no concept of self so hard to interact with others at times it will force you to make lots of changes in your life likely.. much hard work, often unpleasant
I view psychedelics as consciousness expansion tools... one has to be ready to expand not just expand fully, we must be ready in life, or all sorts of trouble can happen you are on wavelength with everyone you know - if you change you wont be anymore as much, or maybe more the ego defines a lot in our lives... job, clothes, appearance, friends,... everything can potentially change with egoloss/death it isnt to be taken lightly
its funny.. when you havent had egodeath you want to go there but when you have had one, you dont want to go there too often :-) , seems to be how it often is
egodeath destroys your current identity likely, unless you are already 100% yourself
know a buddhist who says it happens everytime he closes his eyes could imagine it might be true if you have meditated for 30+ years, you can stop thoughts and time at any time, and feel reborn when you experience again you can with meditation/nature see yourself in everybody too often, because awareness can increase often, awareness that we are not very unique, same problems in life we all face often and if you have overcome one problem yourself and feel happy due to it, you feel like you have to bring that happiness to others too sometimes
I feel reborn everytime I walk/sit in nature now after the initial death, stops all thoughts and time, that is what egodeath is to me :-) can experience it everyday now when I walk in nature... all problems/worries leave
just a quick writeout.. nobody can decide for you.. and its very different for everyone
ego gets rebuilt, so nothing to fear.. but you can chose not to let it rebuild if you want, if you put in a lot of hard work everyday
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nicechrisman
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: lessismore]
#19109396 - 11/09/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good post. It seems my post rustled some jimmies. I figured it probably would because people find pain in having their opinions and assumptions challenged. The point of my post was to tell OP to quit trying to match the experiences of other people, and instead to just experience.
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19109410 - 11/09/13 08:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Good post. It seems my post rustled some jimmies. I figured it probably would because people find pain in having their opinions and assumptions challenged. The point of my post was to tell OP to quit trying to match the experiences of other people, and instead to just experience.
When ego fading can be researched and mapped phisiologically I don't see an assumption. I see science. It's like telling people fight or flight is a way adventure junkies stroke their ego...
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: Yogi1]
#19109445 - 11/09/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You wanna fight about it? I'll see you at the gathering bro
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: Yogi1]
#19109455 - 11/09/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The entire hippocampus region is not responsible for the loss of the sense of self. its a specific region called the mPFC; brain activity is in fact diminished. The most astonishing thing is that it mimics what happens to stroke victims and some cases of schizophrenia which are highly misunderstood.
Enjoy this TED talk ya'll
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19109456 - 11/09/13 08:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ego death is not knowing your personal identity. It also is coupled with no connection to time or reality. It is only knowing you are within the universe and unaware of your role as a human being.
-------------------- "As I walk on through troubled times my spirit gets so downhearted sometimes so where are the strong and who are the trusted? And where is the harmony? Sweet harmony. Cause each time I feel it slippin' away, just makes me wanna cry. What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?" - Nick Lowe "Psychedelic drugs don't change you - they don't change your character - unless you want to be changed. They enable change; they can't impose it...” - Sasha Shulgin
Edited by mindgnome (11/09/13 08:23 AM)
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lessismore
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: lessismore]
#19109463 - 11/09/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was really ill when it happened to me, pretty depressed too
impossible to get depressed in my life ever again now , it reconnected me with nature and myself/ what I love
somehow something made me trip when I was very sick...
had already tried weed everyday, it only made my depression much worse...
would only recommend it to others, but it will also force you to change your life likely the day after egodeath the ego is back, stronger than ever :-)
but this time you can see that it is not you, thoughts have no control of you frustration,worrying never makes sense , judging others does neither yourself nor anyone else any good , let it pass
it can all be achieved with meditation too, and it might be a healthier way too
it did bring a lot of emotional trouble for many many months, you have to process your whole life and all your bad karma ;-) and physical problems too... psychical issues too for many months afterwards you can feel happier than ever though, when you stop doing what makes you unhappy, thats the hard work
all the work is after egodeath, without hard work it hardly does anything
everything I do has changed, everything I dont do has changed too (what makes me unhappy, smoking weed everyday, eating junk food everyday, living by my desires i.e.)
but its all a continious process... have to work for it everyday or I fall right back to start
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19109708 - 11/09/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: I wouldn't go about trying to match the experiences of other people. Psychedelics are all about experiencing yourself. What is ego death? It's bullshit. Don't worry about it. It's psychedelic elitists way of saying they got higher than you did.
Exactly. It kind of ties back into the monty python philosophy
"For another man to try to gain enlightenment from one another is like a grain of sand trying to achieve enlightenment from another grain of sand"- Terence Mckenna
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#19109721 - 11/09/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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-------------------- "Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent: it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not." John C. Lily
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: lessismore]
#19109753 - 11/09/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think it's being overcomplicated a bit! I've found it to be exactly as the phrase ego death implies, the dissolution of the self, personality, identity and ones own humanity.
By that I just mean that you suddenly discover your personality and day to day conception and sense of yourself is nothing more than an illusion. I think the concept is closely related to humans/animals, language/time, and it's like devolving back into a more primitive state in which you are more like a beast who can not, no matter how hard he tries, understand simple human concepts like who what and where you are, how to read a watch, or how to communicate! In short, human and man made concepts simply evaporate!
I always found that with DMT, even when utterly consumed by the machine, there was still a sense of my own human self that was observing everything and saying holy shit just please let me survive this! I think Terrance M once too said DMT leaves the ego intact and its certainly been my experience as well!
Salvia I would say was the ultimate ego death experience in that it can for a short time turn a human being into a door nob who dimly senses it has been an inanimate object for all eternity! That is pretty damned ego-less!
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: wolf8312]
#19109761 - 11/09/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ego death in my opinion is when you
- forget who you are
- forget what you are
- forget you are
- die
- realize that you never existed and you are nothing more than a thought or a point of view eternally floating through and endless void and creating the universe out of boredom
It can be any combination of these or even all
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: nicechrisman] 1
#19109762 - 11/09/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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braw thats easy as shit
You die!, its for real!, you will be scared!
but know that this death is necessary for something new to emerge what it will exactly be like... well thats the surprise
Edited by rikuni (11/09/13 10:06 AM)
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SnowDaze
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: rikuni]
#19109791 - 11/09/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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smoke some DMT and find out
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rikuni

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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: SnowDaze]
#19109800 - 11/09/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SnowDaze said: smoke some DMT and find out
or eat 1200mic of CID
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SnowDaze
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: rikuni]
#19109806 - 11/09/13 10:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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rikuni said:
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SnowDaze said: smoke some DMT and find out
or eat 1200mic of CID
that is too long of an ego death for me
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rikuni

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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: SnowDaze]
#19109811 - 11/09/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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maybe, it could last a few minutes more
Edited by rikuni (11/09/13 10:22 AM)
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: rikuni]
#19110020 - 11/09/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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dmt has only really worked for after eating 10 stips, and everything was groooovvyyy
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