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ChiefKeef
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Can someone explain the "ego death" to me?
#19101218 - 11/07/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've tripped a handful of times, although 2 have really really taken me out there.
Both those 2 experiences my eyes were truly opened, in terms of how I affect others and how I need to repair my relationship with my family. Both times I had that whole "I'm going to hell" thought in my head. It came from me not making the grade, or cut to get into heaven, and the whole trip is me learning about myself and how I must improve, deep thoughts followed and many revelations occurred.
My question is, the whole "I'm going to hell" mindset, is that the "ego death"?
Truthfully I can admit I was an still are in some ways an asshole, but I'm improving and that's what matters.
I also embraced the whole "I'm going to hell mentality" as to prepare to learn about myself, like I wanted to die, to kill the bad and negativity off my personality.
Yes? No?
This amazing drug gave me such clarity.
-------------------- I now understand what the meaning of the band "The Doors" mean... Opening the doors of reality
my dad used to be a doorman or something i don’t know but when children would hang on doors he would say “Don’t play with the doors, Jim Morrison played with the doors and he’s dead.” and parents would lose their shit.
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theRAPeutic
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: ChiefKeef]
#19101268 - 11/07/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, that just sounds like bad thoughts. Ego death from what I hear is forgetting who you are, even taking a drug, maybe even feel like you died.
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shroomy stan
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: theRAPeutic]
#19101330 - 11/07/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bad trip, please try again.
As for Ego death, haven't been there yet... Yet.
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: shroomy stan]
#19101346 - 11/07/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ego death is like eternal bliss and oneness with the universe. Its very hard to understand until you'v had one. On my ego death experiences I usually am laying down in a dark room and loose my sense of self. Every sensation, sight, smell, taste, touch, and sound all become one energy that fills your soul.
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Aldebaran
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: ChiefKeef] 1
#19101549 - 11/07/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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My question is, the whole "I'm going to hell" mindset, is that the "ego death"?
It might be part of an ego death experience, I've certainly had trips which started out with that kind of feeling and then intensified into some kind of ego-death type trip. There is a quote by Stan Grof where he describes this kind of scenario:
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Sometimes, we not only experience the sense of personal annihilation, but also the destruction of the world as we know it.....we have a sense of all-pervading anxiety and impending catastrophe of enormous proportions. The impression of imminent doom can be very convincing and overwhelming. The predominant feeling is that we are losing all that we know and that we are. At the same time, we have no idea what is on the other side, or even if there is anything there at all. ....we experience total annihilation on all imaginable levels. It involves physical destruction, emotional disaster, intellectual and philosophical defeat, ultimate moral failure, and even spiritual damnation. During this experience, all reference points, everything that is important and meaningful in our life, seems to be mercilessly destroyed.
Ego death is a complicated topic because it's based on Buddhist ideas which are not always easy to comprehend. In terms of an actual ego death trip, I think one characteristic is that the intensity of the trip gets to the point where there just isn't room for you to exist within the trip, as though the trip is sweeping everything away within your mind.
It's the feeling that if you 'let go' you won't exist anymore; imagine that instead of fighting to stay awake you are fighting to continue your existence. There is an abyss in the middle of the trip, and you feel that if you fall into it you won't come back. You are resisting your own death, and the trip can feel like hell.
The "ego death" itself is when you drop into this abyss and discover that there is something beyond it. You continue to exist as a form of awareness even without any real awareness of yourself. You might actually start to believe that you've reached the state beyond death. You gradually become more aware and return to something closer to normal, just tripping very hard. The moment of ego death can be a kind of ecstatic realization that your consciousness is not something individual that you needed to cling on to, but something oceanic that is part of the universe itself. All the details of your life seem trivial in comparison; for a moment your perspective shifts and you feel as though you have become the entire universe.
Or something like that, anyway....
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Yogi1
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: mutantmushroom]
#19101612 - 11/07/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ego death is a blanket term for a number or experiences than involve partial to complete dissolution of the ego. On Nitrous I did this and it was simply experiencing a repeating void and I always feared I would never return to reality, like I experienced the end of existence.
On LSD it came while peaking during sex. I was in the early stage of a completely loving relationship that felt like connecting our energy bodies into 1. We were peaking and I remember I closed my eyes and became like a DMT god along with her and we laughed at the top of our lungs in a crazy loving transformative energy. We were some god for a few minutes.
On DMT it happens every time you break through.
On mushrooms its never happened for me.
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: Yogi1]
#19102765 - 11/07/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ego death from what I have interpreted it as is the complete loss of self. Just experiencing and being, not knowing you are a human. You aren't looking through your eyes at visuals because you have no eyes. You aren't really thinking with your brain because it is just happening.
I could be completely 100% wrong but that's what I have always thought.
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Yogi1
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
#19102780 - 11/07/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Have you actually experienced one?
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: Yogi1]
#19102849 - 11/07/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I took a pretty high dose of DXM once and had the super dissociative experience that was pretty close (at least I thought.)
On 2 blotters of DOB one time I got into a thought loop and convinced myself that if I discovered the meaning of life I would just disappear in thin air. Then I did lol atleast in my head anyway. I almost have difficulty remembering what exactly happened but everything changed. My gf said at times while I was laying there my eyes were open and sometimes closed but I couldn't remember the difference. Normally I have OEV and CEV that change whether my eyes were open vs closed. I was just totally gone. Its weird because I can still picture how it felt but can't really describe it. Occasionally reality would come back and I remember seeing people I recognize (with weird looking features obviously) before poof they were gone again. Pretty much laid in bed for 14 hours then the next day was there and I was still feeling trippy and had no idea if I had slept or not.
Like I said I could be wrong and these could just be really strong trips but I don't know.
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ImFukNCLUELESS
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
#19102884 - 11/07/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ego death is the knowing of nothing
Not knowing who u are how to speak how to move and truly feeling as if u r dying but excepting it and fading into complete peacefullness with no visual connection with reality and possiblly waking up in a puddle of piss (at least i did) because you complelty let go of all worries or concerns and have faded into what could be described as eternial bliss
Then being reborn and having to learn who/what u are
It is the most wonderful feeling n the world but its not something u want to expernce very often and could be quite scary if you not experinced enough for it
If the most you have ever eaten dont just jump to 10gs going for it because it is toatlly different expernce and totally unexplainable
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Pianist
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS] 1
#19108392 - 11/08/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's the dissolution of the mind-made ego, and the limits imposed by ordinary consciousness on your sense of self are removed. You're then aware of your "self" as, essentially, the entire universe. Illusions of separation completely break down.
It's worth mentioning that you definitely do not need drugs to reach this state of consciousness, but they have a way of forcing you into it. Someone said ego death is related to Buddhist ideas and they're right, ego death and Nirvana are essentially one and the same. Generally Buddhists don't use drugs to reach that state, they use meditation.
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: Pianist]
#19108415 - 11/08/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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ego death from my experience i forgot who i was how i acted i lost all sense of material needs and i was just existing along with the cycle of life, i was no longer an individual with a certain perspective/upbringing/attitude/influence and i was just existing energy i was one with everything and i was part of everything.
Edited by flipsidetrue (11/09/13 09:51 AM)
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Deathcore
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: flipsidetrue]
#19108706 - 11/09/13 01:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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refer to most of my posts...
I thought I died and was stuck in hell... Prior to that I was in heaven than purgatory, than hell.. very surreal event of my life that happened over a year ago but the effects wont end until I physically die and learn the truth... If its hell its hell, what can I do?
Just be the best you can be and hope and pray..everyday..
You had a bad trip but look at the positives, now you know what to improve..
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Yogi1
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: Deathcore]
#19109204 - 11/09/13 06:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your brain has a physical ego core in the hippocampus, mushrooms will physically turn this down to allow your brain to function without it.
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: Yogi1] 1
#19109213 - 11/09/13 06:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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egodeath , one with everything you see, no concept of self, unconscious
its what happens afterwards that is interesting, the realizations also egodeath usually only happen on high doses/when ready to let go
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: ChiefKeef] 1
#19109232 - 11/09/13 06:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ego-death= Understanding that nothing is indeed, something. Ego0death is when you force yourself into a corner to see what you are truly made of. Ego-death is the main aspect of our training here on earth. Ego death has occurred when humbleness is present.
To me, ego-death looks a lot like opportunity and hard work. Its not always so easy letting go of what tells us we matter....
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nicechrisman
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: ChiefKeef]
#19109275 - 11/09/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldn't go about trying to match the experiences of other people. Psychedelics are all about experiencing yourself. What is ego death? It's bullshit. Don't worry about it. It's psychedelic elitists way of saying they got higher than you did.
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: Deathcore] 1
#19109292 - 11/09/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Deathcore said: refer to most of my posts...
I thought I died and was stuck in hell... Prior to that I was in heaven than purgatory, than hell.. very surreal event of my life that happened over a year ago but the effects wont end until I physically die and learn the truth... If its hell its hell, what can I do?
Just be the best you can be and hope and pray..everyday..
You had a bad trip but look at the positives, now you know what to improve..
Couldn't have said it any better,
I advise you to blindly follow scripture and what you've been fed as a child.
Don't make decisions or thoughts for yourself. Jesus didn't want any of that you sinner
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Deathcore said: refer to most of my posts...
I thought I died and was stuck in hell... Prior to that I was in heaven than purgatory, than hell.. very surreal event of my life that happened over a year ago but the effects wont end until I physically die and learn the truth... If its hell its hell, what can I do?
Just be the best you can be and hope and pray..everyday..
You had a bad trip but look at the positives, now you know what to improve..
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Yogi1
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19109315 - 11/09/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: I wouldn't go about trying to match the experiences of other people. Psychedelics are all about experiencing yourself. What is ego death? It's bullshit. Don't worry about it. It's psychedelic elitists way of saying they got higher than you did.
Bullshit. Mushrooms physically shut down parts of the hippocampus associated with sense of self, hence dissolving into oneness.
The more I learn about this shit the more I think terence was right about aquatic apes evolving via a major swamp food source of mushrooms.
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nicechrisman
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Re: Can someone explain the "ego death" to me? [Re: Yogi1]
#19109316 - 11/09/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Has your ego ever died? Mine always comes back. What comes back is not dead.
Seems to me by the tone of your post that yours is quite intact still. Did you buy a new one after your old one died?
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