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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
#19100668 - 11/07/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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NWlight said: whether a girl lets you put your dick in her because she's scared you will hurt her or because she's scared you will reveal her darkest secret and ruin her life, either way she doesn't want to be there.
Having consensual sex on the misguided premise that someone MIGHT reveal a secret is NOT rape.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: qman]
#19100674 - 11/07/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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NWlight said: whether a girl lets you put your dick in her because she's scared you will hurt her or because she's scared you will reveal her darkest secret and ruin her life, either way she doesn't want to be there.
Having consensual sex on the misguided premise that someone MIGHT reveal a secret is NOT rape.
It's called extortion and it instills fear in the victim, the same way a threat of violence would.
In both situations they do not want to be having sex
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
#19100680 - 11/07/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I said girl because thats more typical.
but it is the exact same whether it's a man or a woman
I'll try and dig up some articles of girls cutting off guy's penises because they didn't want sex or girls basically doing some kind of fucked up shit to some poor hefty guy with a meaty weapon tied to a tumbling rock about to roll off the edge of a ledge. Also I find it weird the way some guys enjoy 'rape porn' .
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100691 - 11/07/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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rape fantasy is also one of the most common for women.
I read somewhere than around 50% have that fantasy.
it doesn't mean they actually want it to happen. Just like I might watch some nasty porn doesn't mean I actually want to do it in real life
Go ahead and find those articles about women cutting off male genitalia, I fail to see why there is a double standard in that situation. The woman probably went to jail for a long time after they were charged
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100704 - 11/07/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rape is any sex (regardless of the genders involved) that is non-consensual, coerced, forced, or otherwise any sex where someone does not, in a clear st8 of mind, say "Yes please have sex with me."
Rapists are scum
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100707 - 11/07/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some women enjoy rape porn and rape role play, as well. Is that weird to you too, or do you just hold a double standard as part of your "good guy" schtick? Are you offended by unusual sexual predilections? More importantly, why? Should we all be puritanical in our sex lives?
PS: playing good guy isn't going to get you any pussy, pal. This whole pseudo-chivalrous garbage doesn't work.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
#19100737 - 11/07/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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NWlight said:
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qman said:
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NWlight said: whether a girl lets you put your dick in her because she's scared you will hurt her or because she's scared you will reveal her darkest secret and ruin her life, either way she doesn't want to be there.
Having consensual sex on the misguided premise that someone MIGHT reveal a secret is NOT rape.
It's called extortion and it instills fear in the victim, the same way a threat of violence would.
In both situations they do not want to be having sex
The burden of proof in the court of law for rape in those circumstances is beyond high, voluntarily engaging in sex and then claiming it was based on extortion is a hard sell, "not wanting to be having sex" and willingly engaging in sex is not rape.
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Some women enjoy rape porn and rape role play, as well. Is that weird to you too, or do you just hold a double standard as part of your "good guy" schtick? Are you offended by unusual sexual predilections? More importantly, why? Should we all be puritanical in our sex lives?
What do you mean good guy schtick? Do you think I am pretending to be good in order to look like I have morals...dude you are too judgemental towards me. You think I am some rapey, scumbag, drug fiend, loser, crackhead, white trash, rag head, hillbilly, closeted homosexual who has formed a fake life for himself in order to escape slanderous attacks. Come back later when you've cooled down. I don't want an agruement here.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: 245willow19]
#19100742 - 11/07/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You are most of those things by your own admission, but above all, you are a troll.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: qman]
#19100754 - 11/07/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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qman said:
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NWlight said:
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qman said:
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NWlight said: whether a girl lets you put your dick in her because she's scared you will hurt her or because she's scared you will reveal her darkest secret and ruin her life, either way she doesn't want to be there.
Having consensual sex on the misguided premise that someone MIGHT reveal a secret is NOT rape.
It's called extortion and it instills fear in the victim, the same way a threat of violence would.
In both situations they do not want to be having sex
The burden of proof in the court of law for rape in those circumstances is beyond high, voluntarily engaging in sex and then claiming it was based on extortion is a hard sell, "not wanting to be having sex" and willingly engaging in sex is not rape.
The issue was not whether you can later claim it was extortion and go to court.
The issue was not even about whether or not it is easy or difficult to prove.
We were discussing whether blackmailing someone into having sex with you was rape, which it is.
You twisted the argument quite a bit there
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sVs said: You are most of those things by your own admission, but above all, you are a troll.
wow, nailed it. did... did this guy just tell us all how he is a rapey, scumbag, drug fiend, loser, crackhead, white trash, rag head, hillbilly, closeted homosexual?
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
#19100773 - 11/07/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You are most of those things by your own admission, but above all, you are a troll.
What the fuck are you then? The Mahdi  . End of discussion. You're more of a troll than I could ever think of becoming...
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wow, nailed it. did... did this guy just tell us all how he is a rapey, scumbag, drug fiend, loser, crackhead, white trash, rag head, hillbilly, closeted homosexual?
It's all true...I am a dirtyu homophobic rag head son of a bitch jk Dude...let us get back onto topic, please
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#19100788 - 11/07/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The "I know you are but what am I" defense. A timeless classic.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: qman]
#19100801 - 11/07/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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NWlight said: Any time someone is engaged in a sex act without saying the word "yes".
Sometimes "no" means "yes". 
Sometimes yes means anal
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: zappaisgod]
#19100808 - 11/07/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol that story is burned into my memory as well.
fucking fraternity chauvinists
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
#19100827 - 11/07/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rape is when any woman has sex with a man who is not me.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight]
#19100829 - 11/07/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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no never means yes you piece of shit
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: NWlight] 1
#19100833 - 11/07/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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NWlight said: rape fantasy is also one of the most common for women.
I read somewhere than around 50% have that fantasy.
it doesn't mean they actually want it to happen. Just like I might watch some nasty porn doesn't mean I actually want to do it in real life
Go ahead and find those articles about women cutting off male genitalia, I fail to see why there is a double standard in that situation. The woman probably went to jail for a long time after they were charged
They did get in legal trouble, but then a bunch of women at a table on a tv show talked about it and their response was laughter, the reverse would not happen =double standard.
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Re: What do you consider rape? What are your views [Re: Vriska Serket]
#19100840 - 11/07/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Vriska Serket said: no never means yes you piece of shit
Sometimes it does, but that is a very specific subtext of sex.
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