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MindDrips
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: Agentchewy]
#19111411 - 11/09/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Agentchewy said: Psilocybin is almost identical to 5 HTP and similar to serotonin and melatonin. Its so matched to sync up with our nervous system that it binds to your receptors almost perfectly which implies intelligence or atleast a relationship between the two over time.
Psilocybin has recently been found to cause neurogenesis at a rate comparable only to that of early childhood.
No wonder its illegal. Its strange as fuck
I actually didn't know about the neurogenesis factor, that's really fascinating. It does seem as though psilocybin was made for humans though, doesn't it? Fun thing to think about...
Everything I know about the chemical has already been stated, so I have nothing substantial to contribute. However, from personal experience, psilocybin actually makes me feel much more healthy as well as physically and mentally clean than I do at a normal state of consciousness. Give me a few mushrooms and I'll be giggling and dancing around like a little girl, heheh.
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MagicalOrangutan
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: MindDrips]
#19112128 - 11/09/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I felt completely normal mentally physically emotionally etc. 3 hours after my one shroom trip. If there is absolutely no hangover from something, that GENERALLY means it's safe. Alcohol, pills, fucking evil demonic ssris, cocaine, heroine, and meth all have a hangover and are all neurologically unhealthy. Marijuana, shrooms, especially dmt with it's perfect afterglow, etc, are all perfectly healthy and have no hangover
-------------------- On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky We all need more love, and mainly less hate Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye That makes the heart's eye cry Locked deep away in the skies of our minds It's all in the mind
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SnowDaze
Probably Relapsing on Heroin
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#19112155 - 11/09/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yogi1
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#19112467 - 11/09/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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MagicalOrangutan said: I felt completely normal mentally physically emotionally etc. 3 hours after my one shroom trip. If there is absolutely no hangover from something, that GENERALLY means it's safe. Alcohol, pills, fucking evil demonic ssris, cocaine, heroine, and meth all have a hangover and are all neurologically unhealthy. Marijuana, shrooms, especially dmt with it's perfect afterglow, etc, are all perfectly healthy and have no hangover
No offense, and with all do respect, you might be misinformed and a wee bit very retarded.
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lessismore
Registered: 02/10/13
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: Yogi1]
#19113308 - 11/10/13 04:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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heh
MJ definitely has a hangover for me, just like beers do
next day I get urge to smoke/foggy , and lazy/heavy + it gives me paranoid/negative thoughts/less control of my thoughts I generally dont smoke MJ due to this
shrooms do have a hangover too, maybe more motivated next day, but head still feels weird for a while , maybe a week
its best to do any drug rarely... its the abuse that destroys, rarely the drug itself
mushrooms are perfectly healthy , especially compared to i.e. 12 beers in a night as long as not overdone... overdoing it is doing it every week IMO, but different for everyone people often trip often in the beginning and slow down with time
I also consider the intensity of the experience that is why I dont smoke salvia more than once a year or so... its very intense so I would imagine it can change a lot of stuff
and dont do 5g shrooms very often, years between it was so intense I have no plans coming back right away :-P LSD has always been easier for me... no max dose there, start with 3 hits
Edited by lessismore (11/10/13 05:01 AM)
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MagicalOrangutan
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: lessismore]
#19113599 - 11/10/13 07:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fuck you yogi you're the retard. Point out something false I said
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Yogi1
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#19113676 - 11/10/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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MagicalOrangutan said: Fuck you yogi you're the retard. Point out something false I said
I took those devil ssris. No hangover. To say there is no hangover after shrooms is plain wrong. It might not seem it to you but I've had hangovers on shrooms.
LSD can have awful hangovers.
Some people get very nausiated from mushroom matter. By simpleton logic they could day their stomach rejecting it is a sign its a toxin.
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MagicalOrangutan
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: Yogi1]
#19113688 - 11/10/13 08:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Depends on how you define "hangover" my fwend
-------------------- On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky We all need more love, and mainly less hate Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye That makes the heart's eye cry Locked deep away in the skies of our minds It's all in the mind
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Yogi1
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#19113706 - 11/10/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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MagicalOrangutan said: Depends on how you define "hangover" my fwend
I suppose you could day that, however if you are saying hangover as in mental fog (marijuana) it applies to psychefelics just the same, the day after at least.
I take offense to elitist views of psychedelics as completely non harmful drugs and ssris as brain destroyers. It's very simpleton thinking
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MagicalOrangutan
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: Yogi1]
#19113717 - 11/10/13 08:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I took paxil for years. It stanks. Besides anything that prevents you from tripping is evil
-------------------- On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky We all need more love, and mainly less hate Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye That makes the heart's eye cry Locked deep away in the skies of our minds It's all in the mind
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Yogi1
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#19113773 - 11/10/13 08:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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MagicalOrangutan said: I took paxil for years. It stanks. Besides anything that prevents you from tripping is evil
I took the same ssri for 6 months and it really helped me through some negativity in my life and restored energy and focus.
If you actually need to rake the drug like I would say I did then you shouldn't be tripping psychedelics anyway during that negativity.
You could still have tripped smoked dmt.
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MagicalOrangutan
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: Yogi1]
#19113803 - 11/10/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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All ssris do is increase serotonin in the brain. true depression can't be solved by this because true depression is caused by structural problems of neurological connections, not low serotonin.
-------------------- On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky We all need more love, and mainly less hate Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye That makes the heart's eye cry Locked deep away in the skies of our minds It's all in the mind
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SnowDaze
Probably Relapsing on Heroin
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#19113819 - 11/10/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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this is dumb
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Yogi1
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#19113823 - 11/10/13 09:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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MagicalOrangutan said: All ssris do is increase serotonin in the brain. true depression can't be solved by this because true depression is caused by structural problems of neurological connections, not low serotonin.
It's not a solution its a short term bandaid for psychotherapy. In some cases you can't help a person without a lifetime of the medicine.
My case is low serotonin production in the winter. Right now I'm trying alternative therapy so my body won't become dependent.
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MagicalOrangutan
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: Yogi1]
#19113904 - 11/10/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, please do because over time your brain will suffer the consequences of having it's serotonin supply unnaturally drained forcefully. if I didn't care I'd just say ok then see what happens
-------------------- On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky We all need more love, and mainly less hate Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye That makes the heart's eye cry Locked deep away in the skies of our minds It's all in the mind
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lessismore
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#19113921 - 11/10/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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True depression is often from forgetting yourself
not just a chemical imbalance
but I guess there are 2 views :-) , the shamanistic view and science view
pills rarely cure
forgetting oneself happens to almost everyone of us to various degrees
when you find yourself, youre not in doubt any longer, own experience love everyday...
its natural to be happy most days
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MagicalOrangutan
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: lessismore]
#19114009 - 11/10/13 09:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's basically all biophysical and biochemical ultimately
-------------------- On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky We all need more love, and mainly less hate Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye That makes the heart's eye cry Locked deep away in the skies of our minds It's all in the mind
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Could those mushrooms harm our body? Magic or Toxin. Be rational [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#19114439 - 11/10/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shrooms are as hangover free as anything that powerful likely can be. It's amazing.
Be in excellent health and fitness when you do them if you want the best results.
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